I'm easy, but that will surely involve everyone publishing their best XI.
Would have to rank 1-4 with 4 being worst
The Fourth RedCafe Sheep Draft
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Would have to rank 1-4 with 4 being worst
Yups, too much room for "if only he had gotten a RB...", etc.
Only objective criterion I could apply is # of sheep. The rest is personal preference/bias.
yeah i agree with that, we should all send our formation picture and stain and anto should remove the worst, maybe add some of the other regulars that dont play into the judging panel.
So, sales pitch permitted?
And as a corollary mudslinging on other teams?
And as a corollary mudslinging on other teams?
Was waiting for you to do that, even here.So, sales pitch permitted?
And as a corollary mudslinging on other teams?
This could work. Obviously sheep would be the first thing to look at but general strength of the team is more important for me. Making a formation on sharemytactics and sending it to us takes 5 mins.
then do it, its your draft
im sure anto will let you do this after you ask him nicely : PI'm thinking of doing likewise, with the caveat that a sheep out of position is worse than a sheep in his correct position.
I can't get on board with O' Shea as a sheep at all. He's closer in ability and credentials to a few of the non-sheep picks than he is to someone like Dong. And I love him.
What's the draftmasters' stance on this @antohan and @The Stain ? Assess the sheep on their actual merits on players, or just treat them all as equally worthless?
My computer broke down, can anyone post a formation for me?
I'll send a photo with the formation drawn on paper
With the attention to details though. @Joga Bonito @antohan
Sorry just saw your message, glad to see you got it sorted out though.
@Pat_Mustard In assessing sheep, I find it hard to ignore who the player is and their attributes. You can never get a sense of how they gel in the team as a unit if we only consider them as general shitters. And most great teams of the past always had players of that calibre within their squads, so it's good to see how managers bring it all together.
The sheep does it make it easier to adjudicate to be fair. I was just commenting that it's funny how strong some of those teams were. Getting a sheep should suffer the severest of penalties as it is called a sheep draft.
If player A spends 120m and gets 3 GOAT and 3 sheep he's shown less drafting skill than someone whose spent less but got 6 quality players (some GOAT and others still close to GOAT quality).
If player A spends 120m and gets 3 GOAT and 3 sheep he's shown less drafting skill than someone whose spent less but got 6 quality players (some GOAT and others still close to GOAT quality).
The idea was to build a stronger side, not a side with less amount of sheep, even though it's obviously connected
Firstly, we knew different rounds would have different quality sheep, so going with them all being equal is wrong.
Second, for the most part I tried to give the manager something they needed, with the caveat of -not always tbh- checking what they had been trying to sign (e.g. Moby got O'Shea as a sheep Beckenbauer, which in context is accurate).
Finally, some sheep I didn't bother because they didn't matter. It looked to me like @Tuppet needed a forward, had been targetting forwards, and with his squad was never going to use the sheep, so Bebe it is, who cares anyway? He certainly is wrong to then respond by painting all sheep with that same brush.
True.
So, sales pitch permitted?
And as a corollary mudslinging on other teams?
You were the one complaining about giving away your formation
Go for it. Whatever really. I'm actually posting in the middle of a session on electronic payments with the Central Bank of Costa Rica
You were the one complaining about giving away your formation
Not for this.
Assuming we get this sorted....the single manager who get past this is already at a disadvantage in having his formation known when regular rounds start.
Shouldn't matter much. Let's get the 16 for now.
Moby ----------------------------------- EAP ------------------------- harms ------------------ crappy viva
Harms: Chelsea-esque 3-4-3. Turan and Blomqvist have enough work rate, talent and expertise to flourish in these workhorse spots. Figo is in his Madrid incarnation, free to move around and create. The spine in absolutely ridiculous, imo.
Harms: Chelsea-esque 3-4-3. Turan and Blomqvist have enough work rate, talent and expertise to flourish in these workhorse spots. Figo is in his Madrid incarnation, free to move around and create. The spine in absolutely ridiculous, imo.
Very impressed by your teams
Nope, I disagree. For me it's simply the fact that the sheep are supposed to be punishment and there is hardly any quality control is enough for me to decide this. Even in the round where the sheep pool was open the quality were not comparable. For example Valencia would be closer to the quality of O Shea then bebe. Now just because you felt like giving me worse player should not be decider at all. I happen to not need to use a sheep but that is the point in this round. Everyone is using sheep.
Who has a better front 4 in the draft than this? May be enigma.. other than that don't see any other being better.
With Don in there, it is a proper MF 3 as well.
What I don't like in the sheepgate is that it goes directly against the OP, which specified the post-drafting routine. And I was drafting based on that (trying to create a better team until the end instead of picking a non-sheep alternative which wasn't true to my original idea)
But I am a sore loser and a very competitive one, and obviously biased, being stuck in this little tournament
But I am a sore loser and a very competitive one, and obviously biased, being stuck in this little tournament
This is gettin too much.
I challenge any one here for a death match. Loser drops off.
If I'm going to go out, may as well go out with a match, swinging!
Who's up?
Edit: Would be a shame to waste all the drafting with no matches played. Even 1st match loss should be OK.
I challenge any one here for a death match. Loser drops off.
If I'm going to go out, may as well go out with a match, swinging!
Who's up?
Edit: Would be a shame to waste all the drafting with no matches played. Even 1st match loss should be OK.
You are on.
[/IMG] Which link do I use from footballuser.com?
Just post a link and I'll fix it.
Don't worry, I don't have to submit a team now
--------------EAP ------------------------- crappy viva--------
vs
I vote draw, because you are both champs in my mind.
On a serious note it will be hard to vote here. Especially when two teams field a sheep.
I tried that but nothing is shown not even a broken linkThe one which says, copy/paste to your forum?
It was clear. Several voiced concerns about giving away and assessing 16 squads, that's all.
use the Insert code button above and paste the link. Someone will correct it for you.
@RedTiger as above
OK, you can have Dirk Kuyt, which was what I meant to until I thought Bebe should feature on a bench. Couldn't care less.
The real eyesores out there are the Platini morph (not a sheep) and EAP insisting on a sweeper and basically looking dodgy because his entire planning was shambolic in leaving him zero options to produce a defence.
Are my eyes deceiving me or is that good 'ol Ferenc up front
. Not serious Nice team Btw.