The First Redcafe Sheep Draft

I suspect Edgar knows his onions and with the help of Brwned will indeed build a side that gets the best out of Laudrup.

Definitely the pick of the round.
The only reason I didn't go him in round 1 was because I thought he would be blocked!!
 
The only reason I didn't go him in round 1 was because I thought he would be blocked!!

Is it him you tried in the second round? I thought you had been going on about Pirlo with the diamond reference.

BTW, did you see my earlier post. I've picked the greenie spitting one, not the full on rastaman.
 
Tomorrow noon it is, then. I've been knocked out with a bit of a fever here, so haven't been paying attention, nor made my pick. Thinking required.
 
some potential sheeps:

Akinbiyi
Bramble
Ali Dia
Rebrov
Djemba-Djemba
Carlton Palmer
Taibi if keepers were allowed :lol:
Rebrov's too good for a sheep.

Carlton Palmer's your man though, Anto can take on the Graham Taylor role: "Can we not knock it?"

 
I wouldn't mind Carlton either, have a soft spot for him from my days living in Southampton and watching him at the Dell. True story, it was Carlton Palmer I went to watch there, no one else.
 
Here we go again, Theon starts with his "Oh Dear" campaign. It's simple mate, take all players who played in that role and he is top 5 in my book. In others' it could be 5-10, just a matter of taste.

:lol: Are you genuinely retarded?

The comment I disagreed with was that Laudrup is one of the top 5/6 players in history.. you've just pulled this 'top 5 in his position' nonsense out your arse. Next time instead of immediately getting so upset you should try and read the thread properly, mate.

And if you go and try to read my post you'll see that what I said is little different to your comment - depending on preferences he has a chance at being a top 5 player since Maradona (not for me), but would certainly make most people's top 10's.

Top 5 of all time? Certainly not.
 
Whoever gets Carlton Palmer will instantly lose all votes from anyone living in Asia who has witnessed his "punditry".
 
So, let me get this straight - Anto's sheep has not been decided?

Also, the first round question is not carried over into the second round? So, people can pick any player who scored in a EC/CL final, including Ballon d' Or winners, as long as the player wasn't born before Maradona?
 
So, let me get this straight - Anto's sheep has not been decided?

Also, the first round question is not carried over into the second round? So, people can pick any player who scored in a EC/CL final, including Ballon d' Or winners, as long as the player wasn't born before Maradona?

Yes to both.
 
This next rounds going to be very interesting. Much smaller pool but so much top talent there. Very hard to know which one of them to go for, or whether to play it safer
Yeap. The pool is not that deep actually. I just made a list and I reckon I would be happy with about 17 people off it .. mm
 
Tricky one. There are a couple of very obvious picks here who will end up blocked. If not I'll be shocked - and someone will end up laughing all they way to the final, more or less.
 
Oh, Ok then.

If it starts a couple of hours early, I thought we could squeeze both picks on same day as all are online at that time!

No worries!

Good to hear. I hope you and @Jayvin are fine with this method as you two are in the far east.

You basically have to come online once after 8 PM to see if you are required to pick again. It would be good if you can have backups ready when you do the research for the first pick so that you don't need much time to submit the second pick.

I can understand that it is a bit inconvenient but that's the best option I have to reduce the length of the draft.

If it's still an issue coming online that late, do let me know.
 
:lol: Are you genuinely retarded?

The comment I disagreed with was that Laudrup is one of the top 5/6 players in history.. you've just pulled this 'top 5 in his position' nonsense out your arse. Next time instead of immediately getting so upset you should try and read the thread properly, mate.

And if you go and try to read my post you'll see that what I said is little different to your comment - depending on preferences he has a chance at being a top 5 player since Maradona (not for me), but would certainly make most people's top 10's.

Top 5 of all time? Certainly not.

Maybe it's just you? Read again, really slowly, take your time, maybe you get it then.

"Best player" is always subject to priorities re: other roles. I'm sure Sacchi and Capello preferred having Baresi in their team than Laudrup, for example.

As a #10 orchestrator? Yups, top 5 alongside Diego, Pelé, Cruyff and Platini. Only ****** has given him a run for his money since.

:confused: Why, does Laudrup make your all time top 5?

Did you go take hike down wiki? Too hard to make it there?

  • Romário: "The best player I have ever played with and the 4th best in the history of the game"
  • Unpicked Real legend: "The best I have ever played with."
  • Unpicked Real striker: "Un genio!", "The reason why I make so many goals, is Laudrup."
  • Unpicked Barca and Spain maestro: "Who is the best player in history? Laudrup."
  • Unpicked Barca shortarse striker: "I fully understand why he is considered one of the best players in Barcelona's history and even the world."
  • Unpicked legendary Barca player and manager: "Everything I know about football, I learnt from him"
  • Beckenbauer: "Pelé was the best in the 60s, Cruyff in the 70s, Maradona in the 80s and Laudrup in the 90s."
  • Roberto Galia: "I have played against Maradona, Platini and (unpicked hardon of yours). But the player I saw do the most indescribable things was Michael Laudrup."
  • Clemente: "To me, Michael Laudrup is the most genius player the world has ever seen. He will always be my numero uno. Always."
  • Unpicked Barca teammate: "Laudrup was the greatest"
But yeah, I'll submit to your superior knowledge, he has no right being talked about as one of the best ever. :rolleyes:
 
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"Best player" is always subject to priorities re: other roles. I'm sure Sacchi and Capello preferred having Baresi in their team than Laudrup, for example.

As a #10 orchestrator? Yups, top 5 alongside Diego, Pelé, Cruyff and Platini. Only ****** has given him a run for his money since.

I don't think Cruyff can be counted as a number 10. He was much more.

And anyway, you missed Sir Bobby, Zico, Rivelino and a guy I can't name who are quite clearly on a different level.

Laudrup's one of the best player to watch play without a doubt but top 5 number 10s of all time? Not for me.
 
I wouldn't mind Carlton either, have a soft spot for him from my days living in Southampton and watching him at the Dell. True story, it was Carlton Palmer I went to watch there, no one else.
In that spirit it would be good if the sheep had some sort of connection to the manager, not that it will always be possible.
 
I don't think Cruyff can be counted as a number 10. He was much more.

And anyway, you missed Sir Bobby, Zico, Rivelino and a guy I can't name who are quite clearly on a different level.

Laudrup's one of the best player to watch play without a doubt but top 5 number 10s of all time? Not for me.

Add Di Stefano there. :lol:

Number 10 is really the most talented position. We can bring in so many players. Zizinho, Rivera, Mazzola, Kopa, etc. Pele played number 10 for a lot of games as well.
 
Maybe it's just you? Read again, really slowly, take your time, maybe you get it then.

:lol: Well at least you seem to have answered the 'are you retarded' question. Dear God man, you really need to give yourself a firm slap around the face. You're unbelievable. It's simultaneously hilarious and depressing at the same time.

I have no idea why you quoted those posts except to try and act the dickhead, seeing as that isn't how the conversation went and they weren't in response to each other. I can't believe you're that pathetic that we need to go through this, but this is how that post went,

Top 5/6 in history is a pretty daft comment though.

I've told you before, you really need to watch the Dream Team a wee bit more.

:confused: Why, does Laudrup make your all time top 5?

You then start pulling shite out your arse and banging on about how much you watched Laudrup - as if anyone gives a shit - and completely misrepresent the whole debate. No one was talking about whether Laudrup is one of the top 5 number 10's. You just made that issue up, and I never said he wasn't in my post.

The fact is that you just started moaning and getting upset over imaginary comments. You are completely insane.
 
For a second I thought Annah's Star Wars diversion would end the fight between Anto and Theon, but nope, the force clearly is too strong with both of you :lol:.

@AldoPaine18
I changed my pick again :). Can't believe I said in the beginning, that changing picks is wrong:lol:. I'm such a hypocrite.
 
Theon/Anto, you's are basically arguin about the use of a comma

''Why, does Laudrup make your all time top 5?''

Anto answered this as 'Why does Laudrup make your all time top 5?'.

Simple mistake. Forget about it
 
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:lol: He probably has done that actually, the tit.
 
I don't think Cruyff can be counted as a number 10. He was much more.

And anyway, you missed Sir Bobby, Zico, Rivelino and a guy I can't name who are quite clearly on a different level.

Laudrup's one of the best player to watch play without a doubt but top 5 number 10s of all time? Not for me.

I didn't include Cruyff in that post originally. I'd agree with that actually, but excluding him looked odd when referring to orchestrating (the #10 was more a reference to that being done from an advanced position, as opposed to a deep one).

I wouldn't put Sir Bobby in the same bracket of player. In a similar way to Cruyff (or Di Stefano) their influence went beyond that role. I do think Laudrup was a better player than Zico, Rivelino and the one I suspect to be your unnamed one. Before you start quoting Zico's scoring records, the point isn't him the player as a one man stat-band but what he managed to extract from those around him. Laudrup made others play brilliantly in a way only Maradona/Pelé could better. No, not even Platini, Platini has nothing on Laudrup in that department but has the sort of stats Zico had. ****** is a tiny notch below both IMO.
 
:lol: Well at least you seem to have answered the 'are you retarded' question. Dear God man, you really need to give yourself a firm slap around the face. You're unbelievable. It's simultaneously hilarious and depressing at the same time.

And there I was thinking we were finally having a civilised convo. No, you are just the same old twat.

In between I qualified it was more related to the orchestrating role and that not everyone would attach the same importance to the various roles.

I do happen to think that role is crucial to a football team so I do indeed hold those top five as there or thereabouts the top 5-6 ever (that's where Di Stefano squeezes in ahead of Laudrup, and Platini). All those quotes support that as quite a reasonable opinion, if only that, an opinion. But no, you won't have it, no one can have an opinion around here different to yours or else they are retards.

Grow up.
 
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I didn't include Cruyff in that post originally. I'd agree with that actually, but excluding him looked odd when referring to orchestrating (the #10 was more a reference to that being done from an advanced position, as opposed to a deep one).

I wouldn't put Sir Bobby in the same bracket of player. In a similar way to Cruyff (or Di Stefano) their influence went beyond that role. I do think Laudrup was a better player than Zico, Rivelino and the one I suspect to be your unnamed one. Before you start quoting Zico's scoring records, the point isn't him the player as a one man stat-band but what he managed to extract from those around him. Laudrup made others play brilliantly in a way only Maradona/Pelé could better. No, not even Platini, Platini has nothing on Laudrup in that department but has the sort of stats Zico had. ****** is a tiny notch below both IMO.

Disagree even if you consider being the sole playmaker and not the complete AM Zico was with this scoring. He played as the orchestrator so many times, dropping into midfield and staying there, sacrificing his goalscoring but considerably improving the whole and making it tick.

Riverlino is terribly underrated here and everywhere. I don't know why. He was as joyful to watch as any other name taken here and had the ability to control the game like VERY few others.

Even if we are talking about just playmaking, vision and ability to bring the best out of others, I'd stand by what I said.

And anyway that is just one part of being a number 10 and very convenient for making Laudrup's case. Players like Zico, Rivelino etc did what Laudrup did while providing a lot more to the team. And were more consistent as well.
 
It's fine lines Aldo, I really rate those two and certainly don't have an issue with agreeing to disagree.
 
But no, you won't have it, no one can have an opinion around here different to yours or else they are retards.

:lol: Spectacular once again. You really are fantastic, just in a terrible way.

I'll let everyone else decide if it was me or you not letting the other voice their opinion. You really do lack any self awareness antohan - I've told you this before - and its a real issue for you.

But yeah, I made a post saying Laudrup isn't one of the Top 5 players of all time, and you wade in telling me to watch more of him, then start acting the wanker by suggesting I read his wiki page and try and watch more youtube clips.

But yes.. It was me who didn't let poor antohan have his view :wenger:

Top 5/6 in history is a pretty daft comment though.

I've told you before, you really need to watch the Dream Team a wee bit more.

OK, go on watch some youtube clips then.