The first Cricket sheep thread

Aldo said:
We ditched that a while back, and for the betterment of drafts. Really came down to luck and who you are facing and whether what you need is there with the opponent. Having a common pool has been a much sounder approach and has cemented it's place now in football draft rules.
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That's something I didn't quite consider. Fair enough. A common pool gives a wider array to choose from. There shouldn't be more sheep though imo especially as some don't have 2 sheep to let go off in the first place. Further rounds should be more like our game with NM and you need solid teams for that.
 
Varun said:
That's something I didn't quite consider. Fair enough. A common pool gives a wider array to choose from. There shouldn't be more sheep though imo especially as some don't have 2 sheep to let go off in the first place. Further rounds should be more like our game with NM and you need solid teams for that.
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Well yes, that rule is a bit brutal. But again it's something new and puts you in a position where you need to decide whether to participate in the reinforcement pool round or not, coz it will cost you a player, literally.

If @The Man Himself wants to relax it a bit he can probably allow people to retain the excluded player if they don't manage anything in the reinforcements round, instead of getting a sheep. Basically replacing a legit player with a sheep would be a hard one to swallow for anyone. But he's the draftmaster, up to him how tough he wants this to be.

Is this inspired from the IPL, by the way? :D
 
feck. :( I'll be screwed if I get a sheep. :( Damn you TMH for finding ways to make this draft interesting...
 
Aldo said:
Well yes, that rule is a bit brutal. But again it's something new and puts you in a position where you need to decide whether to participate in the reinforcement pool round or not, coz it will cost you a player, literally.

If @The Man Himself wants to relax it a bit he can probably allow people to retain the excluded player if they don't manage anything in the reinforcements round, instead of getting a sheep. Basically replacing a legit player with a sheep would be a hard one to swallow for anyone. But he's the draftmaster, up to him how tough he wants this to be.

Is this inspired from the IPL, by the way? :D
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Yeah, as he wishes, he's running the show.
 
Skills said:
Can we have the reinforcement pool posted?
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Was doing just that. Knocked out teams:

VanGaalEra: 1. Shillingford 2. Junior Murray 3. Ajay Jadeja 4. Vettori 5. Amla 6. J. Root 7. S. Akhtar 8. Bob Willis 9. Herschelle Gibbs 10. Rahane 11.Dilshan 12. Gilchrist

PaulScholes18: 1. Botham 2. Prior 3. Mohammed Yousuf 4. Sehwag 5. Kevin Pietersen 6. Shervin Campbell 7. Ravi Ashwin 8. Philander 9. Gambhir 10. Ryan Harris 11. Jonathan Trott 12. Mitch Johnson

Kazi: 1. Bond 2. Dhoni 3. Craig Spearman 4. Greenidge 5. Haynes 6. Tony Greig 7. Mahela Jayawardene 8. Mohammad Rafique 9. Herath 10. McDermott 11. Angus Fraser 12. S. Waugh

Boycott: 1. Chetan Sharma 2. Khaled Mashud 3. Blair Pocock 4.Boycott 5. Gooch 6. R. Benaud 7. J. Srinath 8. Alderman 9. Richie Richardson 10. Ian Chappell 11. Nathan Astle 12. Shaun Pollock

Crappy: 1. Mendis 2. Alan Knott 3. Nick Knight 4. S. Sreesanth 5. Alviro Petersen 6. M. Waugh 7. Chatfield 8. Ian Bishop 9. Arthur Morris 10.Zaheer Abbas 11.Mohinder Amarnath 12. Viv Richards

Samid: 1. Waqar Younis 2. Moin Khan 3. Michael Hussey 4. P. Collins 5. Kane Williamson 6.M. Vaughan 7. Ravi Shastri 8. Gillespie 9. Chris Gayle 10.Mohammad Amir 11.Wasim Raja 12. Sachin Tendulkar

Skizzo: 1. Mushtaq Ahmed 2. Jeff Dujon 3. Laxman 4. D. Boon 5. Colin Cowdrey 6. Neil Harvey 7. David Warner 8. George Lohmann 9. Lindsay Hassett 10. Clarrie Grimmett 11. Tony Lock 12. Murali

And one of these:

Mani: 1. Holding 2. Ian Smith 3. Adam Bacher 4. J. Garner 5. Michael Clarke 6. Kanhai 7. K. Wessels 8. Gupte 9. Kallicharan 10. Hanif Mohammad 11. Frank Tyson 12. Darren Ganga (Sheep)

NM: 1. Donald 2. Les Ames 3. Roger Twose 4. Lance Gibbs 5. Martin Crowe 6. Clive Lloyd 7. C. Hooper 8. Sir Wes Hall 9. Sir Conrad Hunte 10. John Edrich 11.Fazal Mahmood 12. Lara
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I hope we can keep our 'sacrifices' if we fail all three rounds. Less risk and maybe less entertaining, agreed, but all teams will be strengthened with good measure.
 
Ijazz17 said:
I hope we can keep our 'sacrifices' if we fail all three rounds. Less risk and maybe less entertaining, agreed, but all teams will be strengthened with good measure.
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Personally, I agree. Teams going into quarters, semis and the final should be worthy of that stage of the tournament, having sheep in there would probably degrade the match experience. Games will be a lot more closer so one sheep can be game over for the rest of your hard work.
 
Let's open up the non selected pool from round 12 as well? The players who were blocked in that round, and will be in this round are permablocked. But the rest carry forward.

Basically if a player is blocked twice they're permablocked.
 
Skills said:
Let's open up the non selected pool from round 12 as well? The players who were blocked in that round, and will be in this round are permablocked. But the rest carry forward.

Basically if a player is blocked twice they're permablocked.
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I think that ship has sailed. As much as it pains to see Sunny, Warne, Lillee we must move ahead.
 
Aldo said:
Well yes, that rule is a bit brutal. But again it's something new and puts you in a position where you need to decide whether to participate in the reinforcement pool round or not, coz it will cost you a player, literally.

If @The Man Himself wants to relax it a bit he can probably allow people to retain the excluded player if they don't manage anything in the reinforcements round, instead of getting a sheep. Basically replacing a legit player with a sheep would be a hard one to swallow for anyone. But he's the draftmaster, up to him how tough he wants this to be.

Is this inspired from the IPL, by the way? :D
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As I see it, the risk can still be mitigated and getting a sheep for legit player can be avoided. One gets 3 rounds so at some stage they may decide whether to keep up with risk or settle for someone equal to legit/decent player they got rid. Equivalent replacement for that decent player can still be found in round 3 if first two attempts fail. It also gives someone who is lacking those 1-2 players to make draft winning team to go for broke. Without those 1-2, sheep or decent player, they may still lose match, so why not.
 
The Man Himself said:
As I see it, the risk can still be mitigated and getting a sheep for legit player can be avoided. One gets 3 rounds so at some stage they may decide whether to keep up with risk or settle for someone equal to legit/decent player they got rid. Equivalent replacement for that decent player can still be found in round 3 if first two attempts fail. It also gives someone who is lacking those 1-2 players to make draft winning team to go for broke. Without those 1-2, sheep or decent player, they may still lose match, so why not.
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Thing is unlike the main sheep draft the pool here is decided, we all know what everyone else needs, etc and picking from a restricted pool, so even 'going safe' may not be a viable option depending on what you need. I mean earlier I knew that if I went till the third pick I could pick someone obscure who I can almost be sure about being available, not the case here. We are picking from already picked teams. Not that it means you can't go ahead with that rule, but it will end up in tears at some stage. :D
 
The Man Himself said:
As I see it, the risk can still be mitigated and getting a sheep for legit player can be avoided. One gets 3 rounds so at some stage they may decide whether to keep up with risk or settle for someone equal to legit/decent player they got rid. Equivalent replacement for that decent player can still be found in round 3 if first two attempts fail. It also gives someone who is lacking those 1-2 players to make draft winning team to go for broke. Without those 1-2, sheep or decent player, they may still lose match, so why not.
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When we make our sacrifices, why don't the lambs go into pool of players as well. That way as you said, if Teams do get to R3, they can either be safe, take the sheep back which they submitted, or someone equivalent or go for broke ?
 
Ijazz17 said:
When we make our sacrifices, why don't the lambs go into pool of players as well. That way as you said, if Teams do get to R3, they can either be safe, take the sheep back which they submitted, or someone equivalent or go for broke ?
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OK, sacrifices I can allow to put in replenishment pool. I wanted to keep them out as I wanted players to keep it secret from others who they are getting rid and their strategy etc. I guess for most it will otherwise be obvious too. So yeah, sacrificed players can go in replenishment pool. So there can be potentially 112 players available in replenishment pool.
 
The Man Himself said:
OK, sacrifices I can allow to put in replenishment pool. I wanted to keep them out as I wanted players to keep it secret from others who they are getting rid and their strategy etc. I guess for most it will otherwise be obvious too. So yeah, sacrificed players can go in replenishment pool. So there can be potentially 112 players available in replenishment pool.
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Most probably already know who the others will get rid of. For those that that are truly going for it, it will be interesting because, based on who he has given up, others may decide to block him, losing a pick in the round. Lot's of mind games to be had at this stage :D.

Edit: But the surprise Idea sounds good too. Will suit me more tbh :D.

More Edits: The surprise idea sounds far better. Even the no of sacrifices can be kept a secret till R3 is completed.
 
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Replenishment round for quarters begins. Following players are available for replenishment.PM me your picks. Usual sheep draft picks rules with 3 rounds. 24 hr-12hr-12hr.

Replenishment pool: Losing team section:

VanGaalEra: 1. Shillingford 2. Junior Murray 3. Ajay Jadeja 4. Vettori 5. Amla 6. J. Root 7. S. Akhtar 8. Bob Willis 9. Herschelle Gibbs 10. Rahane 11.Dilshan 12. Gilchrist

PaulScholes18: 1. Botham 2. Prior 3. Mohammed Yousuf 4. Sehwag 5. Kevin Pietersen 6. Shervin Campbell 7. Ravi Ashwin 8. Philander 9. Gambhir 10. Ryan Harris 11. Jonathan Trott 12. Mitch Johnson

Kazi: 1. Bond 2. Dhoni 3. Craig Spearman 4. Greenidge 5. Haynes 6. Tony Greig 7. Mahela Jayawardene 8. Mohammad Rafique 9. Herath 10. McDermott 11. Angus Fraser 12. S. Waugh

Boycott: 1. Chetan Sharma 2. Khaled Mashud 3. Blair Pocock 4.Boycott 5. Gooch 6. R. Benaud 7. J. Srinath 8. Alderman 9. Richie Richardson 10. Ian Chappell 11. Nathan Astle 12. Shaun Pollock

Crappy: 1. Mendis 2. Alan Knott 3. Nick Knight 4. S. Sreesanth 5. Alviro Petersen 6. M. Waugh 7. Chatfield 8. Ian Bishop 9. Arthur Morris 10.Zaheer Abbas 11.Mohinder Amarnath 12. Viv Richards

Samid: 1. Waqar Younis 2. Moin Khan 3. Michael Hussey 4. P. Collins 5. Kane Williamson 6.M. Vaughan 7. Ravi Shastri 8. Gillespie 9. Chris Gayle 10.Mohammad Amir 11.Wasim Raja 12. Sachin Tendulkar

Skizzo: 1. Mushtaq Ahmed 2. Jeff Dujon 3. Laxman 4. D. Boon 5. Colin Cowdrey 6. Neil Harvey 7. David Warner 8. George Lohmann 9. Lindsay Hassett 10. Clarrie Grimmett 11. Tony Lock 12. Murali

NM: Donald 2. Les Ames 3. Roger Twose 4. Lance Gibbs 5. Martin Crowe 6. Clive Lloyd 7. C. Hooper 8. Sir Wes Hall 9. Sir Conrad Hunte 10. John Edrich 11.Fazal Mahmood 12. Lara

Replenishment pool: Sacrificial lamb section:
Akshay: Phil Tufnell, Darren Powell
Aldo: Basit Ali, Devon Malcolm
Prath92: Heath Streak, John Wright
Mani: Adam Bacher, Darren Ganga
harshad: Nicky Boje, Bob Simpson
RedTiger: Hirwani, Mushfiqur Rahim
 
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Same 24 hrts + 12 + 12 hr format ? Time starts when everyone submits their lambs I guess?
 
Aldo said:
No more permablocks please. Keep this and future eliminated teams for next picking pools.
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I think only QF losing teams should be chosen for replinishing in the semi's. The pool will get smaller, but much much stronger.
 
Aldo said:
No more permablocks please. Keep this and future eliminated teams for next picking pools.
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Maybe teams can be kept for future rounds but if a player gets blocked in this turn, he will be permablocked.
 
Ijazz17 said:
Same 24 hrts + 12 + 12 hr format ? Time starts when everyone submits their lambs I guess?
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Guess we can do it faster, only what 8 people? and many don't even need to replenish and risk a sheep with the team they already have.
 
The Man Himself said:
Maybe teams can be kept for future rounds but if a player gets blocked in this turn, he will be permablocked.
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Still think players from the losing round alone should be considered. This round has 112 players to pick from, potentially 16 spots to fill (Almost 10%). The next round will have 8 spots to fill from a maximum 48. And the one before the final (if you stick to this format) will have 4 spots to fill from a maximum 26. That seems like a fair trend to me rather than 16 from 112 now, then 8 from 112 + 48 (minus permablocks) and so on.
 
RedTiger said:
What's this sacrificial lambs?
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The Man Himself said:
Ya in 10 minutes

  • Reinforcements will be from teams losing in R16 ONLY. Those blocked during draft picks will remain blocked.
  • Quarter final picks will allow teams to choose maximum of 2 players from replenishment pool. That means if you want to add only 1 or no one, you are free to do so.
  • Any no. of additions will mean equal no. of sacrifices from current squad of 12.
  • The players one wishes to sacrifice should be informed in PM BEFORE picking from replenishment pool.
  • This remains a sheep draft. So, if there is block after 3 rounds, sheep will be allocated.
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The lambs are the players you want to sacrifice in exchange for getting replenishment picks.
 
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