Gaming The Final Fantasy Thread

What's your favourite single-player FF?

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Mystry said:
I don't think they could ever remake some of the older games with voice acting and better graphics without messing things up. Look at Advent Children and think what it would be like with that Cloud with that voice cross dressing to sneak into Don Corneo's place. That goes for all the other crazy side characters who didn't have a voice and could get away with in sprite form. Le Blanc, Ormi and Logos are probably the closest we got in the modern games to some of the weirder side characters you came across in previous titles and they felt and sounded horrible.
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This is such a good example - it makes me laugh just trying to imagine it. :lol: I think unfortunately you would need voice acting and cut scenes at Mass Effect 2 standard (not yet played 3) to pull something like that off, but that's something that Square-Enix simply aren't going to provide these days. The jump from Vanille, Hope (especially Hope..), Snow, etc to Square-Enix legitimately pulling off a scene with Cloud confusing some randy old man into thinking that he's a really fit bird...it doesn't seem possible.

It still gets me all stroppy thinking of 13...:mad: I can't believe how conclusive it was with that game that FF had properly gone down the toilet.
 
Finished Final Fantasy VI.

The first half of the game (World of Balance) is the best. I don't mean the best part in Final Fantasy games, it is the best part ever in every game. The ghost train, opera scenes, fighting the octopus a lot of times, the death of general Leo and the mental Kefka destroying everything. Add to that the beautiful soundtracks of Terra and Celes.

The second part of the game (World of Ruin) totally loses the focus. There is the great scene of Celes trying suicide after the death of Cid, but after it, you found friends that longs for about 5 hours and then you have to spent countless of hours leveling up, un-cursing the curse shield, teaching the good magics to a lot of characters (Ultima, Life 3, Quick) etc. When you finally decide to fight Kefka (after some days of doing useless things), well it looks like another life. Anyway the final mission is superb, and looks that every member of your party counts. The final boss fight (or better bosses fight) is great too, but not that hard as it looks like.

The characters in the game were very good. The three main characters which I think were Terra, Celes and Locke (in that order) were very likable characters. Edgar, Sabin, Cyan, Shadow and Gau had their moments too. Mog had it's dances. And Strago and Relm were boring.

The soundtracks as I said were amazing with Terra's and Celes theme the cream in the cake.

Generally a great game and one of the five best games I had ever play. Still, I think that I liked slightly more Final Fantasy VII, for the main reason that was more focused in the end than this.

Now, it's time for another classic. Chrono Trigger wait for me.
 
Revan said:
Finished Final Fantasy VI.

The first half of the game (World of Balance) is the best. I don't mean the best part in Final Fantasy games, it is the best part ever in every game. The ghost train, opera scenes, fighting the octopus a lot of times, the death of general Leo and the mental Kefka destroying everything. Add to that the beautiful soundtracks of Terra and Celes.

The second part of the game (World of Ruin) totally loses the focus. There is the great scene of Celes trying suicide after the death of Cid, but after it, you found friends that longs for about 5 hours and then you have to spent countless of hours leveling up, un-cursing the curse shield, teaching the good magics to a lot of characters (Ultima, Life 3, Quick) etc. When you finally decide to fight Kefka (after some days of doing useless things), well it looks like another life. Anyway the final mission is superb, and looks that every member of your party counts. The final boss fight (or better bosses fight) is great too, but not that hard as it looks like.

The characters in the game were very good. The three main characters which I think were Terra, Celes and Locke (in that order) were very likable characters. Edgar, Sabin, Cyan, Shadow and Gau had their moments too. Mog had it's dances. And Strago and Relm were boring.

The soundtracks as I said were amazing with Terra's and Celes theme the cream in the cake.

Generally a great game and one of the five best games I had ever play. Still, I think that I liked slightly more Final Fantasy VII, for the main reason that was more focused in the end than this.

Now, it's time for another classic. Chrono Trigger wait for me.
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Glad you enjoyed it mate, you can see why it gets the plaudits now! Imagine how far advanced it was on release, a true masterpiece.

You are in for a treat with Chronotrigger too now, enjoy!
 
Redlambs said:
Glad you enjoyed it mate, you can see why it gets the plaudits now! Imagine how far advanced it was on release, a true masterpiece.

You are in for a treat with Chronotrigger too now, enjoy!
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Yes, a very likable game (especially considering that is 19 years old). A little disappointed with the second half of the game, when plot was almost in-existent but still no-one can deny it's greatness. Read that there are two other optional bosses after the end of the game(Kaiser Dragon and Omega Weapon), but there wasn't any option on mine. Probably only the Gameboy version has it.

Tested yesterday Chrono Trigger for about half an hour. I thought that it is another Final Fantasy with another name, but it seems that there are mayor differences in it's style. Will start tonight it for good.
 
Great review, Revan. I think I'll go through FF6 again soon, feeling inspired. :D

After finishing Chrono Trigger, I think now that FF6 is the superior game. They are both pretty easy games unfortunately in the sense of the battles but FF6 less so, and there is a lot more depth to the characters in 6 which is a really important thing in my opinion. The end of Chrono Trigger is actually pretty disappointing, and it is stupidly easy beyond a certain level and with all the extra stuff. Still, I was sad to finish it and could only continue to marvel at how good it must've been when it came out. I had great fun with it as it was.

I'm going through Chrono Cross now and can tell I'm in for a treat with this. As ever, the soundtrack is absolutely beautiful and already looks to be superior to Chrono Trigger's. The elements system is a pretty big step up in complexity to the Chrono Trigger equivalent also, and is looking like something in between the FF7 materia system and the FF8 junction system.

What a bastard with these Chrono series main characters, though! We've got another Crono in Serge. :( Disappointed with that. There looks to be a lot more to the characters so far naturally but again they've muted the main guy. Just a personal gripe, I suppose. They did the same in Dragon Quest 8 but that was still amazing.

I would actually agree that Chrono Trigger is pretty much FF, to be honest. Not that there is anything wrong with that at all. I was just pretty stunned that it was similar to the extent that even the items were the same! With something like Dragon Quest or Xenogears there are a variety of significant enough differences for it to be a very different game, but the levelling, style of soundtrack, spells, items, etc are all pretty much identical in Chrono Trigger.

The big difference is something that becomes apparent pretty much immediately after the game begins, and it is of course a massive difference.
 
How long it took you to finish, KingEric? Starting it tonight and planning to finish it by the end of the weekend. Heard that it doesn't take more than 20-30 hours.

Re-playing FF 6 again, is not a bad thing ;)
 
KingEric7 said:
I was just pretty stunned that it was similar to the extent that even the items were the same!
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Eh? I thought the items in Chrono Trigger were different. Something like tonic instead of potion and revive instead of phoenix down. Might have been a few weapons and equipment that are the same but most similarities are probably due to them being staples of RPG games like elixirs and ethers.
 
The Lifa Tree bit although short was a fantastic settin I think. Beautifully haunted ad the music fit perfectly. Don't really have much time to play during the week so it's going a bit slower than when I've played past FF's, but I think I'm enjoying it more.
 
Mystry said:
Eh? I thought the items in Chrono Trigger were different. Something like tonic instead of potion and revive instead of phoenix down. Might have been a few weapons and equipment that are the same but most similarities are probably due to them being staples of RPG games like elixirs and ethers.
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Probably was blinded by the elixir, megalixir, ether thing, to be fair. There's the spells as well with ,Flare, Fire, Fire 2 and Fire 3, etc...

Still, that's not a criticism at all obviously. I loved the fact that I could through a game I'd not played and get the FF vibe again.
 
esmufc14 said:
The Lifa Tree bit although short was a fantastic settin I think. Beautifully haunted ad the music fit perfectly. Don't really have much time to play during the week so it's going a bit slower than when I've played past FF's, but I think I'm enjoying it more.
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did you use fire damage on the boss? I know I did :lol:

Disc 3 is where the game really starts to open up, and the plot thickens/ gets more intense. You may find yourself needing to make more time to play it.
 
Revan said:
Finished Final Fantasy VI.

The first half of the game (World of Balance) is the best. I don't mean the best part in Final Fantasy games, it is the best part ever in every game. The ghost train, opera scenes, fighting the octopus a lot of times, the death of general Leo and the mental Kefka destroying everything. Add to that the beautiful soundtracks of Terra and Celes.

The second part of the game (World of Ruin) totally loses the focus. There is the great scene of Celes trying suicide after the death of Cid, but after it, you found friends that longs for about 5 hours and then you have to spent countless of hours leveling up, un-cursing the curse shield, teaching the good magics to a lot of characters (Ultima, Life 3, Quick) etc. When you finally decide to fight Kefka (after some days of doing useless things), well it looks like another life. Anyway the final mission is superb, and looks that every member of your party counts. The final boss fight (or better bosses fight) is great too, but not that hard as it looks like.

The characters in the game were very good. The three main characters which I think were Terra, Celes and Locke (in that order) were very likable characters. Edgar, Sabin, Cyan, Shadow and Gau had their moments too. Mog had it's dances. And Strago and Relm were boring.

The soundtracks as I said were amazing with Terra's and Celes theme the cream in the cake.

Generally a great game and one of the five best games I had ever play. Still, I think that I liked slightly more Final Fantasy VII, for the main reason that was more focused in the end than this.

Now, it's time for another classic. Chrono Trigger wait for me.
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The soundtrack is stunning. Full of memorable tunes and Terra's theme in particular is brilliant. It's a joy to walk onto the world map to that tune. The second airship tune (Searching for Friends) is one of my all time favourites as well. Almost all of them are fantastic pieces. However, I could do with not hearing the Veldt tune for the rest of my life. :mad: Those who ever tried to collect some of the rare Rages know why.
 
Revan said:
How long it took you to finish, KingEric? Starting it tonight and planning to finish it by the end of the weekend. Heard that it doesn't take more than 20-30 hours.

Re-playing FF 6 again, is not a bad thing ;)
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Took me about 60 hours I think to do it all and get to level 99. :eek:

I will admit that I cut that time down massively in reality with a good fast forward key, though. The grind to level 99 would've honestly been the most unbearable thing in any video game ever without that.

I kept laughing at the time thinking about how boring that would've been, whilst still bemoaning the length of the process even with that key.
 
KingEric7 said:
Took me about 60 hours I think to do it all and get to level 99. :eek:

I will admit that I cut that time down massively in reality with a good fast forward key, though. The grind to level 99 would've honestly been the most unbearable thing in any video game ever without that.

I kept laughing at the time thinking about how boring that would've been, whilst still bemoaning the length of the process even with that key.
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feck, thought that this game was more shorter but it seems that is is longer than Final Fantasy VI. It sounds that it will take much longer than a week.
 
You could quite easily complete the game in 20-30 hours, maybe even less. It can definitely be done given how it opens out. Would recommend going the whole way (that'll make sense as you play) and doing it properly, though. Doing the grind to put another 10-15 hours on the clock is not really that important, but it is a necessarily evil to do everything unfortunately. :(
 
Drainy said:
did you use fire damage on the boss? I know I did :lol:

Disc 3 is where the game really starts to open up, and the plot thickens/ gets more intense. You may find yourself needing to make more time to play it.
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Soul Cage is undead = phoenix down for eaaassy kills
 
KingEric7 said:
You could quite easily complete the game in 20-30 hours, maybe even less. It can definitely be done given how it opens out. Would recommend going the whole way (that'll make sense as you play) and doing it properly, though. Doing the grind to put another 10-15 hours on the clock is not really that important, but it is a necessarily evil to do everything unfortunately. :(
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Yes, when I play I usually try to do all the sidequests and other stuff, but the leveling up in Final Fantasy games was a pain in the arse. For example, when I un-cursed the cursed shield in VI, I went from 7:30 to 12 doing just random battles. Tedious as hell.
 
Revan said:
Yes, when I play I usually try to do all the sidequests and other stuff, but the leveling up in Final Fantasy games was a pain in the arse. For example, when I un-cursed the cursed shield in VI, I went from 7:30 to 12 doing just random battles. Tedious as hell.
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Yeah, the cursed shield thing was a nightmare. So boring! Needed hundreds of battles.

Good luck to you with level 99 on Chrono Trigger, then. :D The ZSnes fast forwards up to 30x faster so that will help a hell of a lot. I feel for the poor sods who had to go through all that without that option back in the day, Christ. Genuinely is something ludicrous like a 15 hour job from level 65-70ish.
 
KingEric7 said:
Yeah, the cursed shield thing was a nightmare. So boring! Needed hundreds of battles.
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255 to be precise.

KingEric7 said:
Good luck to you with level 99 on Chrono Trigger, then. :D The ZSnes fast forwards up to 30x faster so that will help a hell of a lot. I feel for the poor sods who had to go through all that without that option back in the day, Christ. Genuinely is something ludicrous like a 15 hour job from level 65-70ish.
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I won't do it unless it is required to be able to do side missions. Finished FF VI and VII is mid sixty, and FF IV in fifty (I think). What is that 30x faster?
 
Revan said:
255 to be precise.



I won't do it unless it is required to be able to do side missions. Finished FF VI and VII is mid sixty, and FF IV in fifty (I think). What is that 30x faster?
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It's a requirement for something, yep.

As for the 30x thing, there's a button you can press on emulators which speeds the game up. Usually the space button but you can set it to whatever key you want. For Zsnes, go to the speed option and set the speed to whatever you want (like I say, it goes up to 30), then set the button configuration for that to space bar or whatever and whenever you press that it'll make the game go X times faster.

I always save that until the grind because I find it ruins the atmosphere of the game and how immersed you get into it if you do that from the offset, but it is genuinely the most incredibly useful thing for levelling in RPGs at the end of the game.
 
I have done FF7 + FF9 again over the part 6-8 months and have finally decided to replay FF8 (Simple to just D/L off the PS Store)

This is the game I remember the least from all them years ago, I remember the Junctioning system being a pain in the arse to get your head around at first, but there is also some good parts in it like the card game and i remember something about seeD, I think the main problem was in seemed to futuristic for a FF game.

Looking forward to getting sunk into thought!
 
Watched yesterday the Final Fantasy VII movie. Not a good one obviously, but still it had good action scenes, all characters were returned and the animated Tiffa was hot.
 
Revan said:
About halfway in Chrono Trigger. Goot till now
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Good stuff, was going to ask you how that was going. How do you rate it up against FF6 out of interest?

I'm going through Chrono Cross now and I'm having such a good time with it. Kid is a great character and would slip straight into FF9. I'm already far more invested in her as a character than I was with anyone in CT, and the story is shaping up nicely with a lot more onus on the main character.

One thing is that I'm amazed at how different this game is to Chrono Trigger; I bet people were going absolutely mental about this when it came out. I think with the elements system they've come very close to producing something absolutely marvellous but have just fallen a bit short in terms of the importance of mastering it. Still, it's very enjoyable and allows for some nice strategy.

I was going on about the Chrono Trigger OST a bit ago and it's great (not at the level of Uematsu's best works after listening through it again several times), but this one is a very, very clear step above. It is genuinely amazing and must surely be Mitsuda's finest score. If it keeps up to this standard it will easily match any of Uematsu's OSTs. Uematsu's themes are always going to be the most memorable (he pretty much churns out tunes like CT's excellent Frog's theme one after another) but the quality on here is consistently extremely high. I think after playing through the FFs and these two games that it's obvious Uematsu and Mitsuda take a lot of inspiration from each other.
 
Well now, I just realized who is Magus and his motives, also just recuited him.

The game has improved drastically in some of the last past hours. Crono's death was totally unexpected though I am thinking that he will return in some way (with all this time travel thing). Anyway I wouldn't put this game in FF6 and FF7 league (regarding the quality). It is better than FF4 but it is more in that league than in the top tier. Anyway the game has improved a lot now and is becoming better and better. The soundtracks are good (well Uematsu) but not as special as Terra's, Celes or Aerith's themes.

Oh, Marle the princess Nadia is quite good.

Anyway going to make a full review after I finish this.
 
Finished the game yesterday, a day that I played like a mad person. Excellent game, though I wouldn't put in the same league as FF6 and FF7.

Didn't played all the endings in New Game+, just the original one and I don't think that I am going to play the other endings, at least not in the foreseeable future.

A very good thing in this game were side quests which are probably some of the best side quests that I have ever played. Story linked, very complicated and really awesome. The characters were unique and special in their way, with my favorites Magus and Marle.

Didn't liked that much the fighting system, because they have predetermined what magic they can learn (like in FF 4). Anyway with double and triple magics it became better. The final boss wasn't that good, it was a very long fight but a really easy one. All those modules Lavos had were worthless considering that you had defeated them when you were less stronger. In the end, 2 MegaElixirs in the very last battle made it very easy.

Didn't liked the story as much as the story of FF6 and FF7 (with al the time travel bullshit which I hate), but still it was a very good story. Also, the game looked less serious than other RPG that I have played and was more funny. Soundtracks were good (how they can't be when Uematsu is the composer), but I didn't liked any soundtrack on it as much as Aerith's, Celes and Terra's theme.

A great game in the end. Very recommended for those who haven't played it. For now, I am done with SNES but probably will return someday to play Secret of Mana and/or Final Fantasy V.
 
Firstly I have to play VIII. The only question is if I am going to play it right now, or if I am going to postpone it until I play Bioshock: Infinite. Waiting for Lambs recommendation.
 
Started FFIX the other day.....decided to feck going for Excalibur II, 2 hours in and i've barely played for 30 minutes, not being able to skip much on the Vita makes this 12 hour thing almost impossible. Dunno how some do it even with skipping.
 
Agreed on Lavos Revan, terrible final boss! For all the trouble in getting to level 99, Spekkio's final form wasn't all that either. Still, very glad I played it and thoroughly enjoyed the experience.

On Uematsu, he only had a passing influence on the Chrono Trigger OST when Mitsuda became ill so he only did about 4 or so tracks. I got really caught in the moment with the CT OST but it's not quite as good as I first thought it was whilst playing through (still quality though; played 'Depths of The Night' and 'Frog's theme' amongst others continuously the other night). As I say this Chrono Cross one is absolutely amazing and shows just what a marvellous composer Mitsuda is. Damn, I love this game and wish I'd played it when I was younger. :(

I don't know if anyone in here has played it but the battle with

Miguel

with THAT music and the references to Chrono Trigger was a special video gaming moment. Fondness for the series multiplied tenfold in the space of a few minutes whilst that was happening.
 
Tell me more, about Chrono Cross. How it is related to Chrono Trigger and how good it compared with the original one?

KingEric7 said:
Agreed on Lavos Revan, terrible final boss! For all the trouble in getting to level 99, Spekkio's final form wasn't all that either. Still, very glad I played it and thoroughly enjoyed the experience.
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Lavos was one of the longest boss fights, but it was really easy and not that good. Fighting 6-7 ex bosses which you defeated when you were less stronger, an between them healing. Really?

Didn't fight the final forms of Spekkio, was to lazy to level up to 99, in fact finished the game in level 53.
 
I am enjoying Chrono Cross a lot more than Chrono Trigger, to be honest. The storyline is getting very, very good and there is one particular backstory with a particular group of the characters that has gotten quality. As sad as it sounds, I've had to start writing stuff down on a word document just to remind me what the hell is actually going on. That's in some part because my concentration is dreadful to the extent it's like being partially retarded, but also because there's so much that needs to be remembered in order to understand the setting of the game and which characters did what where.

The elements system in this game shits on the Chrono Trigger equivalent. It's a bit like the materia system whereby you assign spells pre-battle, but with you getting better slots to put them in and better spells from enemies/chests/shops as you go along. Elements don't level up - you just find or take better ones. Characters develop their own special abilities also. In battle, there is something in the top left which tells which elements are dominating the field; it starts at random and changes as the battle goes on when you start using them. If you start using blue elements say, it'll start filling that thing blue and blue elements will become more effective. It'll also mean that it's opposing element (red) will do less damage. Characters and enemies all have innate elements too which they are strong with so damage will vary in accordance with that. Battles can take a while admittedly and I've used the fast forward key more than a few times. Usually don't do it until the end but it can sometimes get a bit tiresome due to the nature of building up your elements in battle (you have to attack to start using them).

My main gripe with the game so far is that there are so many playable characters that it is genuinely ridiculous and it's come at the expense of focus on the individuals. I think that's the one thing that stops it from being FF7 standard so far, although I'm still on disc 1 (after 50 hours...:eek:) and am eager to say how this improves. Despite this criticism, the focus on the main guy (Serge) and another one of the characters in regards to their role in the plot is far superior to this game's predecessor. There's no comparison there at all. It was cool in Chrono Trigger right from the offset realising that the game revolved around the concept of destiny and fate with the bell ringing when Marle and Crono met, but there was no relationship between either of them and Zeal/Lavos, say. I can't say I know anything about what Zeal was like for example, and you only realise with certainty what Lavos is about right at the end. Chrono Cross on the other hand is completely different and far more extensive in its storytelling. There are no Sephiroths or Clouds but it's more in that direction than it is Chrono Trigger.

It's difficult to explain how it ties into Chrono Trigger without ruining a pretty emotional moment in the game unfortunately, but there strong are links beyond running jokes and recurring themes needless to say. I kept reading that Chrono Cross could be played by itself but the story is so much more compelling if you are familiar with what preceded it.

Rambling now, but basically it has a better storyline, a better soundtrack, better characters with better ties to the main plot and better complexity in terms of its setting.

Better game. ;)

In my opinion before my head gets bitten by someone! I know Chrono Trigger has some strengths over this but I prefer Chrono Cross by a distance.
 
Forgot to say, would recommend it definitely and that's even before I've gotten onto the second disc, but would also suggest going through FF8, 9 and 10 first as they are all amazing. 6 and 7 are obviously quality but ask a load of different people what their favourite FF game is out of these 5 and you'll probably get a different answer from everyone. Up to you but they're all so good! Maybe Chrono Cross will come under that category by the time this is done but I think they achieved something pretty special with those games.
 
Thanks KingEric, an excellent review for Chrono Cross.

I wasn't expecting that you will say that this game is better than Chrono Trigger, I never heard anyone say it, and probably to some people it will look like blasphemy (I am waiting to see Lambs and Cina reactions :lol:).

Saying that, now I am pretty sure that I will play it, but as you said going to play first, the three remaining good Final Fantasy game, especially the ninth Final Fantasy, the game which some people say that is in the same level as FF6 and FF7.

Glad that you're enjoying it so much, and it looks that you'll spent about a hundred hours on it.
 
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