The Fifth Redcafe Sheep Draft

I'm usually all over @Edgar Allan Pillow and his shenanigans and trying to pull a fast one, but I don't see anything he did wrong here.

As for the mods, it's a thankless job in and of itself. When I ran mine, you constantly run the risk of pissing off one person while trying to make it fair and keep it fun. I remember half the people loved certain aspects whereas others complained all along the way.

Unfortunately some things sometimes work out in a way that may seem biased, but in this case, none of the mods actually like Edgar, so I don't see a bias in his favour.
This.

FWIW EAP offered to swap for his backup pair. We didn't accept the offer. When a decision is made it is final.
 
I'm usually all over @Edgar Allan Pillow and his shenanigans and trying to pull a fast one, but I don't see anything he did wrong here.

As for the mods, it's a thankless job in and of itself. When I ran mine, you constantly run the risk of pissing off one person while trying to make it fair and keep it fun. I remember half the people loved certain aspects whereas others complained all along the way.

Unfortunately some things sometimes work out in a way that may seem biased, but in this case, none of the mods actually like Edgar, so I don't see a bias in his favour.

Edgar definitely hasn't done anything wrong, asked a question and acted on his answer.

Now let's get this round finished with only 4 to pick.
 
That's largely about general clarifications. You often find the same question being asked by all managers, makes more sense to clear it up once on the main thread.

Sometimes the question completely gives away your pick though, we are not expecting those to be made public. That's why it says "post on main thread where possible".

It's impossible to draw a line in the sand across all questions though, not without making it all a bit dull or one dimensional. This one is an obvious example, but conversely if we had one about red cards in WC knockout stages there's zero reason to ask anything (but posting the evidence is essential, which it clearly isn't for Paolo and Cesare Maldini being related).

I think we are getting into the swing of things though. Links are getting sent religiously (we had 10 yellows in R2, none since) and naming unpicked players has been phased out now there's loads that can be named (was harder before with everyone unpicked, hard to have a football draft without talking about the cast).

Mind, some are getting a bit OTT sending their entire shortlist photo album, but the next round should bring us back to normal clearcut stuff.
That’s helpful. I’m not trying to stir up this morning’s carry on again, just trying to get a steer on the approach to avoid needless confrontations going forward.
 
That’s helpful. I’m not trying to stir up this morning’s carry on again, just trying to get a steer on the approach to avoid needless confrontations going forward.
I understand and thus the detailed reply :angel:
 
This is getting a bit ott now.

The rule on asking in thread clearly says "where possible". There are certain queries which would make the underlying player immediately obvious. For example, having a country restriction and posting a query on Suriname. Everyone knows which set of players the query refers to. Since my query has only one possible pick pair, I'd have to be mental to post that in the thread. May as well post the names and get a penalty.

There was no rule breaking anywhere except in your imagination. There was a difference in opinion between the mods and that led to the situation. Stop making it out as if I somehow pulled a fast one here.

If people are going to have issues all through, I'm happy to step away so that rest of you can have a relaxed draft.

If you agree that, should you play and beat me in this draft, it's a tainted and meaningless victory then I can probably find it in my heart to forgive you and move on. You haven't actually done anything wrong here of course.
 
We are debating between 2 picks.. Ready to submit in a bit
 
Middle of the night so yeah Gio won’t be picking till morning
 
How much time is there left?
 
We should be lenient with Gio. It takes time to learn how to use Photoshop.
 
ROUND FIVE, TURN THREE: RESULTS

5. Gio - FAIL (already picked)
6. Enigma - FAIL (already picked)
7. Indnyc/crappy - PASS
11. harms - PASS

BLOCKED LIST: José Leandro Andrade, Víctor Rodríguez Andrade, Valentino Mazzola, Sandro Mazzola, Lionel Messi, Pele, Sergio Busquets, Carles Busquets, Bernd Förster, Karl-Heinz Förster, Alfredo Di Stefano, George Best, Marco van Basten, Elias Figueroa, Marcel Desailly, Didier Deschamps, Romario, Adoni Zubizarreta, Ronald Koeman, Rivaldo, Lothar Matthaus, Andreas Brehme, Alessandro Nesta, Jaap Stam, Liam Brady, Marco Tardelli, Paulo Roberto Falcão, Jürgen Kohler, Stanley Matthews
 
I'm curious. Did Cannavaro feature in Goal movies?

Looked into that a bit out of sheer boredom. Apparently he only features in stock footage (i.e. footage from the 2006 World Cup).

In other words, if stock footage didn't count (and it didn't, iirc - which is obvious, really, would be too easy if it did), it was an invalid pick on top of everything else.

As far as I can tell there were no actual cameos at all in that movie - just doubles and stock footage.
 
ROUND 5 Results
ROUND FIVE, TURN ONE: RESULTS

1. Edgar Allan Pillow - PASS (Roberto Matosas)
2. Pat_Mustard - PASS (Jan Popluhar)
3. 2mufc0 - PASS (Gerson)
4. mazhar13 - PASS (Kurt Hamrin)
5. Gio - FAIL (Jürgen Kohler)
6. Enigma - FAIL (Paulo Roberto Falcão)
7. Indnyc/crappy - FAIL (Paulo Roberto Falcão)
8. Skizzo - PASS (Antonio Conte)
9. idmanager - FAIL (Jürgen Kohler)
10. Invictus/Ecstatic - FAIL (Paulo Roberto Falcão)
11. harms - FAIL (Jürgen Kohler)
12. oneniltothearsenal/shrike - FAIL (Paulo Roberto Falcão)
13. P-Nut0712 - PASS (Andres Iniesta)
14. Tuppet - PASS (Ryan Giggs)
15. Lord SInister/Charly - PASS (Grzegorz Lato)
16. prath92/KM - PASS (Pietro Vierchowood)

ROUND FIVE, TURN TWO: RESULTS

5. Gio - FAIL (already picked) (Piotr Vierchowood)
6. Enigma - FAIL (already picked) (Gerson)
7. Indnyc/crappy - FAIL (Stanley Matthews)
9. idmanager - PASS (Uli Stielike)
10. Invictus/Ecstatic - PASS (Willi Schulz)
11. harms - FAIL (Stanley Matthews)
12. oneniltothearsenal/shrike - PASS (Pirri)

ROUND FIVE, TURN THREE: RESULTS

5. Gio - FAIL (already picked) (Pirri)
6. Enigma - FAIL (already picked) (Pirri)
7. Indnyc/crappy - PASS (Nobby Stiles)
11. harms - PASS (Eduard Streltsov)

BLOCKED LIST: José Leandro Andrade, Víctor Rodríguez Andrade, Valentino Mazzola, Sandro Mazzola, Lionel Messi, Pele, Sergio Busquets, Carles Busquets, Bernd Förster, Karl-Heinz Förster, Alfredo Di Stefano, George Best, Marco van Basten, Elias Figueroa, Marcel Desailly, Didier Deschamps, Romario, Adoni Zubizarreta, Ronald Koeman, Rivaldo, Lothar Matthaus, Andreas Brehme, Alessandro Nesta, Jaap Stam, Liam Brady, Marco Tardelli, Paulo Roberto Falcão, Jürgen Kohler, Stanley Matthews
 
@Gio here is your sheep

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Marouane Chamakh
 
ROUND 6
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ROUND SIX: COPA LIBERTADORES


Double-pick round

Pick two players that featured for opposing sides during a Copa Libertadores semifinal game

If one player is blocked but the other player is successful, you must repick from the same game and team as the blocked player

If both players are blocked, you can pick a new game

For evidence, please provide link of match report (e.g. http://www.rsssf.com/sacups/copalib.html)
 
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ROUND 6: COPA LIBERTADORES


Double-pick round

Pick two players that featured for opposing sides during a Copa Libertadores semifinal game

If one player is blocked but the other player is successful, you must repick from the same game and team as the blocked player

If both players are blocked, you can pick a new game

For evidence, please provide link of match report (e.g. http://www.rsssf.com/sacups/copalib.html)

Do they have to share a pitch? :p
 
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ROUND 6: COPA LIBERTADORES


Double-pick round

Pick two players that featured for opposing sides during a Copa Libertadores semifinal game

If one player is blocked but the other player is successful, you must repick from the same game and team as the blocked player

If both players are blocked, you can pick a new game

For evidence, please provide link of match report (e.g. http://www.rsssf.com/sacups/copalib.html)

Starting 11? Subs? Squad?