When you see Rosberg's onboard its just worse because the initial move is fine but at the point he should have backed off he continued and then turned further into the corner touching Lewis's wheel. I'm really surprised they didn't atleast investigate it, they usually do for less.
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Seems TV over here has deemed all the post race stuff not important and cut the coverage short, so missing all the fall out 
In recent races, they stewards been under instruction to interfere less in races. Which generally is a very good thing.
Rosberg comes across a right dick in this interview.
Telling the fans it educate themselves on rules and regulations before they boo him, and refuses to apologise
Telling the fans it educate themselves on rules and regulations before they boo him, and refuses to apologise
I'd be surprised if Rosberg was daft enough to admit anything like that.
What was his point exactly? "I'm really shit at overtaking"?
SkySports story on it - http://www1.skysports.com/f1/report...essed-to-deliberately-crashing-into-him-at-sp
This is gonna be a shitstorm.
I really dislike Rosberg, I never liked him but I kinda wished him well because he's German. But after every interview this season I hate him that little bit more and I'm actually at the point where I hope that Hamilton wins the driver championship through that silly double points rule in the final race.
The fantasy F1 scoring is stupid. Magnusson qualified higher than Button and also finished ahead of him in the race, but for some reason the former gets 70 points and the latter gets 134. I should be top
Magnusson got a time penalty.
I'll catch you up Leg-End. Even if it means accidentally clipping your wheel on purpose.
I think you will anyway, Force India falling away has killed me.
We didn't see it on screen I don't think, apparently he blocked Alonso onto the grass at Turn 5.
Just seen the Pinkham-Rosberg post race interview - Rosberg really is a dick.
Alonso ended up on the grass after Magnusson held his line on the way out of a corner, can't think which one. If it was off screen then fair enough.
He did at Rivage I think and that was fair, end of the main straight was the issue I think.
Fair enough.
Roll on the Lewis/Nico fireworks.
Roll on the Lewis/Nico fireworks.
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2014/08/24/magnussen-drops-sixth-twelfth-penalty/
I think it was a harsh penalty when you consider how they handled such incidents all season long.
At the end of the last race Hamilton forced Rosberg off the track and they did nothing. Similar incidents happened this season and the drivers got away with it. Now they punish Magnussen for it...
Don't get me wrong I think they are too lenient with drivers who force others off the track. In the past you got an immediate penalty for forcing someone off the track. But if they let others get away with it they should have the same standard for everyone and not punish Magnussen for something others do too and get away with.
No he didn't.
He did. I'm not talking about Spa where Hamilton had every right to drive as he did and Rosberg is the only one at fault for the crash.
I'm talking about last race (the one Hamilton didn't follow Mercedes orders, rightfully, to let Rosberg pass mid-race).
In the end Rosberg caught up to him after the last stop and tried to overtake him (I think it was the last or second last round) on the outside.
They were alongside each other and Hamilton forced Rosberg off track.
I know you were talking about Hungary, last lap Turn 2.. What Hamilton did then is a textbook defence of a car attempting to pass you around the outside of a long radius corner, you run him wide until he backs out or goes off. It's been used in racing pretty much since the beginning of someone fitting round things to a chassis and racing another person. It's forceful but it is 100% fair, the overtaker knows this when they attempt an outside pass and that is why its considered a high risk move.
Magnusson did it himself at Rivage today, twice. It was fair, he got penalised for something else.
Prove a point?
Yeah you're probably right.
I just think it's one thing to force someone of just a bit with just 2 tyres which basically ensures that the other driver won't be able to overtake you and can get back on track very fast and force him completely or almost completely off track which puts the other drivers security in danger.
Magnussen demoted from 6th to 12th, harsh.
So they did Magnussen in but not Rosberg? sounds fair.
If he's actually admitted he took out another driver on purpose, he should be banned for a race.
Schumacher had all his points taken away from him for the same thing.
Schumacher had all his points taken away from him for the same thing.
Surely IF Rosberg did admit he ran into Hamilton on purpose Rosberg has to have his points deducted and maybe even face further action!
We can only hope, dirty cheater. If this is all true then it will put a mark on his image. I know Schumacher did it, but he won many a championship without having to do so.
It's only good for the season having these two more and more bitter at each other, fireworks aplenty. Meanwhile Ricciardo can sneak up and sweep away the title in the mess that follows (hopefully).
Rosberg has always struck me as an entitled little bitch though, if he doesn't get some comeuppance for this then it'll be a farce. Gives Hamilton something to moan about as well so he'll be pleased.
Rosberg has always struck me as an entitled little bitch though, if he doesn't get some comeuppance for this then it'll be a farce. Gives Hamilton something to moan about as well so he'll be pleased.
If Rosberg did admit that he did it on purpose he did admit it to Hamilton, Wolff and Lauda etc. in the team intern debrief.
I don't think they would be stupid enough to confirm that rumour by Hamilton to the stewards/media and hurt their own team.
I don't think they would be stupid enough to confirm that rumour by Hamilton to the stewards/media and hurt their own team.
Wolff admitted Hamilton had accurately represented what Rosberg said, but added: "Nico felt he needed to hold his line. He needed to make a point and for Lewis it was clearly not him who needed to be aware of Nico.
"(Rosberg) didn't give in. He thought it was for Lewis to leave him space and that Lewis didn't leave him space.
"So they agreed to disagree in a very heated discussion among ourselves, but it wasn't deliberately crashing. That is nonsense."
Wolff said Rosberg was to blame and indicated that Mercedes could take internal disciplinary action.
FIA president Jean Todt must decide whether he wants to pursue what some will regard as a serious matter.
"(Rosberg) didn't give in. He thought it was for Lewis to leave him space and that Lewis didn't leave him space.
"So they agreed to disagree in a very heated discussion among ourselves, but it wasn't deliberately crashing. That is nonsense."
Wolff said Rosberg was to blame and indicated that Mercedes could take internal disciplinary action.
FIA president Jean Todt must decide whether he wants to pursue what some will regard as a serious matter.
Rosberg has played this pretty poorly, all he had to really do was hold his hands up and say I made a mistake but it was a racing incident. It's a shitstorm now that could have consequences in the championship, his long term future at the team and with the fans.
Even Merc's hierarchy are pouring it on.
Even Merc's hierarchy are pouring it on.
That is actually a pretty smart PR statement by Wolff.
On the one hand he says Hamilton gave an accurate representation, on the other hand he says that it wasn't deliberate or on purpose which is actually what Hamilton said.
This. I don't know what he was thinking. I mean, if he is aspiring to follow Schumacher in the regard of doing everything (even if it stretches or exceeds the bounds of legality) to win a championship he should also be smart enough to never admit to such stuff. At least not until it doesn't matter anymore.
Do you really think that this one incident will have long term consequences though?
He just renewed his contract and I think by the end of the season this'll have blown over if he doesn't do something similar again.
That's a big if admittedly. Could see this escalating quickly though if Mercedes can't calm their drivers down now.
Formula 1 contracts have more escape clauses than holes in Man Utd's midfield, if Merc wanted to dump Rosberg they could, if Rosberg wanted to leave he could.
It's not the first time either, I'm still convinced parking it in Monaco quali was a delibrate act and presumably those in the team know this for a fact, true or not. It's been prickly since then really so I think thats when the relationship started to break down behind the scenes, today its just all come to a head.
We saw at McLaren in 2007, soon as you get two drivers fall out the situation becomes very serious and you simply can't allow it to happen. Can you imagine these two sharing data willingly after this race? This is gonna run and run and I actually for once don't expect either to back down and make up, I think that is gone now.
It's not the first time either, I'm still convinced parking it in Monaco quali was a delibrate act and presumably those in the team know this for a fact, true or not. It's been prickly since then really so I think thats when the relationship started to break down behind the scenes, today its just all come to a head.
We saw at McLaren in 2007, soon as you get two drivers fall out the situation becomes very serious and you simply can't allow it to happen. Can you imagine these two sharing data willingly after this race? This is gonna run and run and I actually for once don't expect either to back down and make up, I think that is gone now.
I think Hamilton would be more likely to leave than Rosberg tbh
If it came down to it who would Mercedes chose though?
German driver in the German team is hard to overlook for them.
German driver in the German team is hard to overlook for them.
If it comes down to it Hamilton will leave, just easier, cheaper and cleaner.