The F1 Thread 2012 Season

I guess I understand, he is a perfect second driver, doesn't complain and always gives the advantage to the team leader. He should be a lot more competitive though.

It'll be interesting to see what happens with him if the Vettel to Ferrari rumours are true.
 
Do they have to interview Christian Horner every minute. Ted already did a post race interview don't need another one.
 
Really enjoyed that race and it was much better than I thought it was going to be before the weekend started. One of the best of the year for sure.

Looking like a Vettel retirement is Alonso's best bet next week then if he goes on and wins the race.
 
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He can say what he likes but Lewis was sizing him up every single time and gradually getting closer. Given the amount of laps left at the time Lewis was going to send him one eventually, he had zero to lose.
 
To be honest, in that car he really should've been walking it from the very start. He was very good in 2011, but in the two other title winnings year the likes of Alonso can feel justifiably annoyed at his advantage.
I don't see how you think Vettle should have walked it from the start. At the beginning of the season the red bull wasn't the best car on the grid. Think people were saying it was possible number three at the time. Vettle did enough to stay with the guys with the better cars then, before red bull improved their car to the point it is currently.
 
How does F1 compare to Nascar or Indy in the States? I'm asking about the popularity, speed of cars, size of the teams, technical driving ability etc.

Can anyone shed any light on it?
 
How does F1 compare to Nascar or Indy in the States? I'm asking about the popularity, speed of cars, size of the teams, technical driving ability etc.

Can anyone shed any light on it?

It's referred to as one of the classiest race car events, and considered by many as the pinnacle of a race car driver's career. I'd say it's the most popular racing competition in the word. Cars, this season, have reached to speeds up to 319 Km/H (If I remember correctly), whereas before with the V10 engines I'm sure they have reached higher speeds. Drivers have to be super cautious when driving a formula 1 car because it is a no contact sport, whereas in Nascar or Indy, I believe small bumps here and there are allowed. Drivers, on top of keeping their tires warm (in optimum condition), and racing, have to adjust to challenges with DRS and KERS which gives them extra speed when they need it.

In summary, compared to any racing event in the world, I'd say it's the best.
 
How does F1 compare to Nascar or Indy in the States? I'm asking about the popularity, speed of cars, size of the teams, technical driving ability etc.

Can anyone shed any light on it?


F1 to Nascar...each having four wheels and a driver is about all they really share. Almost two different sports really.
 
Indycar has a lot of ovals, too, and is much more about speed. If you put an F1 car and an Indycar on an oval track, the Indycar would absolutely smash it. But on a normal track (which the Indy do race on about half the time) it'd be the other way around.

I always wanted to see a nascar, WTC, F1 car, Indycar and Moto GP bike setting lap times around the same track just to see where they stood in regard to one another.
 
Button looks quick but McLaren have gone for more straightline speed so if it rains they probably lose out. Not sure if Hamilton will go for a bit more downforce, he looked better on Friday with more downforce.
 
So, say Alonso finished P3, where does Vettel have to finish to win it?
 
To win the championship, Alonso must win with Vettel lower than fourth, be second with Vettel lower than seventh or be third with the Red Bull driver below ninth.
 
Time for several gearbox changes...
 
McLaren are a frustrating team, just when it all becomes mathematically irellevant they get their shit together again.

Tough ask for Alonso to win it, but then stranger things have happened.
 
At least there's now a possibility that we could have a really tight race to the finish. Will be interesting to see how other drivers on the track react if they're important to Vettel or Alonso's final position.
 
Not very high, delibrate takeouts would probably result in a lengthy ban and Massa always wants to win in Brazil. I don't think he will be going in there softly though, I wouldn't be.
 
What are the odds of massa turning into vettel on first corner?

I'd bet that the McLaren snipers missing Hamilton and accidentally hitting Vettel instead are more likely to occur.
 
Alonso up to 7th with a penalty for Maldonado, third reprimand this year. Going off on a tangent it appears everyone at McLaren and perhaps even Hamilton regrets how his contract negotiations panned out.
 
What are the odds of massa turning into vettel on first corner?

He won't do it deliberately, but if the Ferrari gets a fast start, which it can, then he won't back out.

My father says that the whispers in the paddock are that the reason Ferrari were so slow is because they've got a wet setup. If it does rain like it might then the McLarens will go backwards with their dry setup, and we might see Alonso fighting his way up the field.
 
I think McLaren regret it more than Hamilton, they have taken a risk on another young driver who basically hasn't produced anything since they signed him whilst Hamilton has cemented himself as one of the very best. There is a rumour that Ron Dennis fecked up in the negotiations by taking the attitude of Hamilton needs McLaren more than McLaren needs him.......but its just rumours, maybe bullshit but something definately went on between Dennis, Hamilton and his management team.

Nothing wrong with trying something new, I still think being in a high budget manufacturer team might pay off come 2014, if Merc don't seriously improve next seasons car it might be a season to forget but he had one of those in 2009 anyway and still nabbed a couple of wins. The driver market will be wide open by the time Hamilton is back on the market anyway and he will be only 31, he probably has another 10 years minimum in F1.
 
I think McLaren regret it more than Hamilton, they have taken a risk on another young driver who basically hasn't produced anything since they signed him whilst Hamilton has cemented himself as one of the very best. There is a rumour that Ron Dennis fecked up in the negotiations by taking the attitude of Hamilton needs McLaren more than McLaren needs him.......but its just rumours, maybe bullshit but something definately went on between Dennis, Hamilton and his management team.

Nothing wrong with trying something new, I still think being in a high budget manufacturer team might pay off come 2014, if Merc don't seriously improve next seasons car it might be a season to forget but he had one of those in 2009 anyway and still nabbed a couple of wins. The driver market will be wide open by the time Hamilton is back on the market anyway and he will be only 31, he probably has another 10 years minimum in F1.

Dennis is a notoriously hard negotiator.