The F1 Thread 2010 Season

1. Schumacher was in front when he moved over. Rubens got ahead only after the wall and by going on the grass.

2. Maybe they should stop racing in Monaco then ? They are always inches away from hitting the barrier. Its fecking F1, the drivers are a second's lapse in concentration away from hitting the barriers. This has happened a few times this season and numerous times in the past. Yet again, its a controversy because its Schumacher.

1. No he wasn't, Reuben was alongside him when he moved.

2. If someone did the same thing towards a wall at Monaco the reaction would be exacty the same. Closing the door like that is wrong anyway but with a concrete wall is dangerous too.
 
Half of the driver's on the grid, maybe even more will be quicker than him if they had the same car - that's about as underwhelming as it can get as a world champion.

That's entirely hypothetical speculation and I'm not sure what you're basing it on. It's the first time we saw him in a properly competitive car and he won the WDC. He's also doing a pretty good job this year compared to the team mate that a lot of people said would blow him out of the water.

Button is a brilliant driver and the shit talked about him is pathetic.
 
That's entirely hypothetical speculation and I'm not sure what you're basing it on. It's the first time we saw him in a properly competitive car and he won the WDC. He's also doing a pretty good job this year compared to the team mate that a lot of people said would blow him out of the water.

Button is a brilliant driver and the shit talked about him is pathetic.

Last season, he had a car which was miles ahead of the rest till half way through the season. He won like 6 out of the first 7 races and by the time the others caught up, it was too little too late. It also helped him that more than one team caught up (Red Bull, Mclaren and Ferrari started winning races taking points of each other in the chase). He had 66 points in the first half of the season and scored just 29 when he actually had some competition in the second half of the season.

IMO, drivers who will be quicker than Button if in the same car:
Lewis
Alonso
Vettel
Webber
Massa
Rosberg
Schumacher
Kubica

a few drivers further down the grid will give him a run for his money as well.


And he is not being blown out of the water for 2 main reasons:

1. Good pit strategy on a few races
2. The current pit stop rules are far more skewed than ever before in favor of 'conservative' driving and preserving tires rather than being quick.
 
Last season, he had a car which was miles ahead of the rest till half way through the season. He won like 6 out of the first 7 races and by the time the others caught up, it was too little too late. It also helped him that more than one team caught up (Red Bull, Mclaren and Ferrari started winning races taking points of each other in the chase). He had 66 points in the first half of the season and scored just 29 when he actually had some competition in the second half of the season.

IMO, drivers who will be quicker than Button if in the same car:
Lewis
Alonso
Vettel
Webber
Massa
Rosberg
Schumacher
Kubica

a few drivers further down the grid will give him a run for his money as well.


And he is not being blown out of the water for 2 main reasons:

1. Good pit strategy on a few races
2. The current pit stop rules are far more skewed than ever before in favor of 'conservative' driving and preserving tires rather than being quick.

Really? I think this season Michael has been proved to have lost his pace quite a lot, not to mention Rosberg is entirely guesswork in terms of pace, Button proved he was an excellent driver in the BAR days so the amount of stick he gets is really undeserved.
 
He wasn't underwhelming last season that's for sure.

After the first 4-6 races, yeah he was. Once everyone got their cars to the level of the Brawn and beyond did he even win one race?
 
Last season, he had a car which was miles ahead of the rest till half way through the season. He won like 6 out of the first 7 races and by the time the others caught up, it was too little too late.

This is bizarre to me. Red Bull have had the best car by a country mile this season, how many poles does Vettel have alone, 7? And they have race pace too. And yet only today they head McClaren in the constructors, and Webber goes above Hamilton at the top (Vettel still behind)

So Button had the best car - as did his team mate - and he battered that advantage home while they had it, as a true champion would. And then when he didn't have the car, he still put in the consistent performances to attain enough points to win the championship. And this somehow makes him a 'fluke' champion?

It's utter horsecrap. Your theoretical 'who would go faster than Button' crap is exactly that. Button DID it. And even in a lesser BAR he proved he could keep up with the big boys

He's a more than worthy champion, and yet again you're exposed for talking out of your arse on F1 matters
 
- 10 place grid penalty for Schumacher
- $50k fines for Renault and Mercedes for Pit Lane issues.

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I'd have chucked him out of the next race myself. In fact in the past he's been banned for two races for ignoring a black flag, and for me this is in the same bracket, deliberately risking the well-being of other racing drivers
 
Did Eddie Jordon really just admit to not knowing about Schumachers exclusion in 97?!

How so?

To be honest it was a nothing punishment anyway, when people talk about his record number of race victories, they're including his five from that year anyway. We all know he was the second best driver that year because he raced all the races and finished in that position, striking his performances afterwards is a nonsense, he lost nothing in reality. Banning him from the next season would have been a more apt punishment...

Whatever, what's done is done there. He never learns though. Just thank goodness no one has ever been seriously hurt by some of the things he's done through his career eh
 

In the forum after the race they were talking about the incident and MS having prior form for such distasteful driving and DC said "how many drivers can you think of in your time in F1 who have been excluded from an entire championship for driving into another driver" or something to that effect.

Brundle sarcastically said 'hmmm, let me think' and whilst DC was half laughing at that Jordan said 'I can't think of any'. Then DC told him it was Schumacher in 97 and he just looked blankly at him. He wasn't trying to be funny either by the look of it!
 
In the forum after the race they were talking about the incident and MS having prior form for such distasteful driving and DC said "how many drivers can you think of in your time in F1 who have been excluded from an entire championship for driving into another driver" or something to that effect.

Brundle sarcastically said 'hmmm, let me think' and whilst DC was half laughing at that Jordan said 'I can't think of any'. Then DC told him it was Schumacher in 97 and he just looked blankly at him. He wasn't trying to be funny either by the look of it!

I'm guessing that your liking of Nico Hulkenburg went through the roof on the forum :lol:
 
Didn't watch it all pal, went to watch some of the wire once it seemed they were only going to talk about Schu/Barrichello.. Why, what did he do?
 
Didn't watch it all pal, went to watch some of the wire once it seemed they were only going to talk about Schu/Barrichello.. Why, what did he do?

They interviewed him and mentioned a comment by Jordan from before the last GP where he said Hulkenburg was disappointing, which Hulkenburg told him was bullshit :lol:
 
anyone been watching the recent top gears? maybe schumacher thinks he really is the stig and has really developed a massive hatred for barichello

it was a disgusting move from the so called f1 great, am i the only one taking great pleasure from schumacher coming back this year and not doing alot other than tainting his legacy?
 
Good to see the stewards finally show their teeth with the Schumacher-Barrichello incident, but it's not substantially worse than some of the other things we've seen go unpunished, Vettel squeezing Hamilton down the pitlane springs to mind as something that could have been really denagerous, like this could've been
 
Michael Schumacher is a buffoon. Idiotic, dangerous, cynical and a very Schumacher move. He deserves to be suspended for a couple of races. He really could have killed Rubens.

Again. He is an idiot.
 
I wonder what the history is between Schumacher and Rubens in the past? Team-mates but now arch enemies?
 
From Krits in the Newb Forum

Is Schumacher that different from Senna? People are bashing him for being rash but Senna drove his car in to Alan Prost to take him out and hence win the WDC. He was responsible for many dangerous and life threatening manoeuvres, yet he is seen as a great, is he not? I don't approve of what Micheal did, it was dangerous but you have to admit he is still a racer. He might not have the pace he had but he still hates to lose. How many people here who hate schumacher for his cnutish behaviour applaud Senna? And before you ask, I am a Ferrari fan not a Schumi fan.
 
To paraphrase Jackie Stewart views on Michael's driving style -- if he has been driving like he did in the old days, he would have killed himself a while ago.
 
Quite a difference in just pushing them off and attempting to put him into the wall as michael did, really Senna was far from perfect as was discussed just last week however his incidents were few and far between, that including the very human side of Ayrton's racing such as getting out of his car mid-race to help another racer, the Austrian flag in his car when he died, Schumacher as fantastic a racer as he was never really showed this human side. Schumacher however does have a history of the negative aspects without the positive.
 
Well Rubens has started talking about the poor treatment he got at Ferrari so as Michael could continue winning, hence them not being too friendly.

oic. I read that he said that he had to follow team orders a few times just to let MS win. Rubens seems genuinely one of the nice guys in F1.