The F1 Thread 2010 Season

Instant Karma said:
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Of all the tyres which could have failed on all the cars, it was a coincidence that it was Hamilton's and it was a coincidence that it was the predicted left front and it was a coincidence that it was in the last few laps when the tyres were on their last tread.

Bizzare that the debris didn't affect any other car or any other tyre on Lewis car :lol:
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So debris has never hit only one tyre on one car? That's just daft.
 
R_Nick said:
he slides the rear of the car around, his front end is usually on point in the apex of the corners. His style is hard on rear tyres, he isn't much (if any) harder on his fronts than anyone else.

As for 'why didn't anyone else have that problem', debris isn't something that can be avoided or something that will affect everyone if it affects one driver, it's just shit luck.
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Nick the entire car slides. You can't slide the rear and not slide the front. The fast weight transfer is always going to do this. Alonso who holds a similar styles suffers as well.

He was pushing on from some stupid reason and more then likely, the temperature on the side wall had increased to a point where it soft enough for something that could be as little as a chip in the rim to cut the tyre.
 
True I forget what lap his wing stopped moving, but its not worth huge gains. This is annoying again though:

Barcelona crowd still the most racist in F1. Crowd booing and making monkey sounds as hamilton & his wreck come past. Needs to be jumped on - f1photos twitter
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They should have been reprimanded when it first happened, instead they another GP.
 
marchi-91 said:
No but a driver with a track record of over heating his tyres due to his driving style is proof enough.
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Lets just wait until the official verdict on it, it looked alot like the failure that happened at the Nurburgring Quali 2007, in fact almost exactly the same and that was a rim failure.
 
Leg-End said:
True I forget what lap his wing stopped moving, but its not worth huge gains. This is annoying again though:

They should have been reprimanded when it first happened, instead they another GP.
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I was gonna say this before Lewis tyre went some people were saying on twitter he was getting his usual abuse he gets there is Spain.
 
marchi-91 said:
Nick the entire car slides. You can't slide the rear and not slide the front. The fast weight transfer is always going to do this. Alonso who holds a similar styles suffers as well.
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Alonso prefers understeer!! Just like Massa does, which was one of the reasons Ferrari had so much trouble with Raikkonen because he prefered oversteer and they couldn't get the car to suit them both.

When the car is oversteering (and it's very slight in F1) the fronts will be steered into any slight slide, and the affects on front Tyres is very very minimal.
 
Leg-End said:
Lets just wait until the official verdict on it, it looked alot like the failure that happened at the Nurburgring Quali 2007, in fact almost exactly the same and that was a rim failure.
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I'll happily admit I was wrong if and when the official verdict is released, but you can't help but think it could have been avoided had he stopped pushing. He sets the fastest lap and then his tyre goes. It doesn't add up to just debris.
 
marchi-91 said:
I'll happily admit I was wrong if and when the official verdict is released, but you can't help but think it could have been avoided had he stopped pushing. He sets the fastest lap and then his tyre goes. It doesn't add up to just debris.
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Post hoc ergo propter hoc.
 
R_Nick said:
Alonso prefers understeer!! Just like Massa does, which was one of the reasons Ferrari had so much trouble with Raikkonen because he prefered oversteer and they couldn't get the car to suit them both.

When the car is oversteering (and it's very slight in F1) the fronts will be steered into any slight slide, and the affects on front Tyres is very very minimal.
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Alonso throws his car at the corners like Hamilton. He has since his Renault days.
 
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The tire itself is intact, its a rim failure.
 
Well there we go.

I look forward to marchi's and Karma's apologies.
 
At least when there are more contentious debates in future, a couple of posters have shown themselves to lack credibility and we can judge their contributions accordingly

Bitter bias bollocks, and they look a right couple of feckwits now
 
B Cantona said:
At least when there are more contentious debates in future, a couple of posters have shown themselves to lack credibility and we can judge their contributions accordingly

Bitter bias bollocks, and they look a right couple of feckwits now
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I'm expecting the rim failure to somehow be Hamiltons fault too.

Clueless.
 
B Cantona said:
At least when there are more contentious debates in future, a couple of posters have shown themselves to lack credibility and we can judge their contributions accordingly

Bitter bias bollocks, and they look a right couple of feckwits now
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they are probably racist...
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marchi-91 said:
I'll happily admit I was wrong if and when the official verdict is released, but you can't help but think it could have been avoided had he stopped pushing. He sets the fastest lap and then his tyre goes. It doesn't add up to just debris.
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Well, we're all waiting.......
 
Kobayashi is letting my team down, or more his car is. Hamilton crashing cost me a but atleast Alonso and Sutil scored.
 
Totally forgot to check back into this thread....

marchi-91 said:
Alonso throws his car at the corners like Hamilton. He has since his Renault days.
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What does that have to do with understeer v oversteer? Alonso has a fairly aggressive style but with a clear preference towards a lighter, understeery front end, where Hamilton prefers oversteer which is why his rear tyres are usually the ones to suffer. This is something I predicted before the start of the season would cause Hamilton problems with less pit stops and might allow Jenson to give him a good run for his money. However this incident cannot be blamed on Hamilton.

Leg-End said:
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The tire itself is intact, its a rim failure.
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But, but, but if it was debris it would have affected other people too! :wenger:

B Cantona said:
At least when there are more contentious debates in future, a couple of posters have shown themselves to lack credibility and we can judge their contributions accordingly

Bitter bias bollocks, and they look a right couple of feckwits now
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Indeed, nobody could ever consider me to be a fan of Hamilton but it's outright retarded to have tried to suggest that was his fault yesterday.
 
I watched the Hamilton incident back on the BBC website, you can clearly see something blow out from inside the rim before the tyre just totally deflates, can see it in the images too.

But anyhow on to Monaco, Red Bull's won't be so far ahead there I dont think. I also think it might be the race that Schumacher steps up a level, the Merc looked good out of the slow stuff on Sunday.
 
Leg-End said:
I watched the Hamilton incident back on the BBC website, you can clearly see something blow out from inside the rim before the tyre just totally deflates, can see it in the images too.

But anyhow on to Monaco, Red Bull's won't be so far ahead there I dont think. I also think it might be the race that Schumacher steps up a level, the Merc looked good out of the slow stuff on Sunday.
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if they can top quali i cant see them being passed... not in the dry anyway...
 
I didn't see it live but how could it be his fault?

Okay I can buy that his pushing (if he was, I've only seen images and the immediate afterwards) could maybe put the tyre under increased stress but never enough to do that.
 
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