A typical Ferrari start to the season. 
I'm glad for Brawn GP and I'm glad there seemed to be more action on track.
I'm glad for Brawn GP and I'm glad there seemed to be more action on track.
The F1 Thread 2009 Season
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
Same hereI was expecting them to drop him ten places back or something
The Patrice Evra of F1.
BUT
BAR
HAM
A good day all round.
I think that those who deny the existence of Hamilton's driving skills should stfu after that. Not that they will.
Great drive by Button and Barrichello too. I hope they get to keep the points after all the appeals to come..
As simple as that, indeed!
You have to acknowledge that both Vettel and Kubica looked really good value for money. Both drove cars that didn't have the controversial diffusers and didn't have the KERS... If Vettel had gone on with the same strategy as Kubica of having hard tyres at the end of the race instead of the soft ones, he'd have easily finished the race and probably winning ahead of Button.
These two drivers, I feel, were the two more impressive ones of the lot today... Very unlucky both!
These two drivers, I feel, were the two more impressive ones of the lot today... Very unlucky both!
was there lots more overtaking then like there was supposed to be?
yea, there was loads of overtaking
Massive assumption right there.
Button was about 3 seconds ahead with just three laps to go when Vettel and Kubica crashed.
Unlucky in being unable to avoid crashing their cars when in second and third in a Grand Prix?
Great race, lots of energy and a new twist to things... 2009 will be one hell of a year !
Indeed, I was very glad I did, even if I'm fecking knackered now!
Never mind that Buttons initial lead was wiped out by the first safety car, and he even had time to make a complete balls up of his last pit stop - they'd not even started refuelling him by the time they'd changed his tyres, although Button admitted it was his mistake that caused it - who knows about the what ifs, but on another day Button strolls this by a country mile
I thought it was a great race, and nice to see Vettel and Kubica showing a lot of promise, even if they did balls it up near the end. Should be an interesting year all round.
I don't like to see accidents, particularly not between nice guys like Kubica and Vettel, but I've got to admit I was dead pleased when they collided - not only did it mean that Button had the win in the bag (which was good), but it also meant Rubens moved up into second.
Did anyone else find it funny when that final safety car was out and we heard the Brawn GP team radio to Rubens? His race engineer was saying, "I'm being told you need to slow down, Rubens. You're going too fast, c'mon, slow it down..." and then Ross Brawn just took over the signal and started going, "SLOW DOWN. SLOW. DOWN." Made me chuckle - you're never too old and too experienced to be told off
Did anyone else find it funny when that final safety car was out and we heard the Brawn GP team radio to Rubens? His race engineer was saying, "I'm being told you need to slow down, Rubens. You're going too fast, c'mon, slow it down..." and then Ross Brawn just took over the signal and started going, "SLOW DOWN. SLOW. DOWN." Made me chuckle - you're never too old and too experienced to be told off
Yeah Rubens was taking the piss out of Ross about it just before they went on the podium. It's that system where they have to do an average speed all around the circuit when the Safety car is deployed and Rubens was traveling too fast.
Good grand prix, i enjoyed it loads. Shame Hamilton wasnt on the actual podium, but a great result all around. So whats the story with this diffuser thing, is it still on going, and are Braun GP potentially in trouble?
same here, im still tired from it, damn clocks changing didnt help
Tip for the weekend: Vettel podium @ 6/1
I know he has the 10 place penalty but he was very quick last weekend and rain is expected, he's probably the best racer in the rain.
I know he has the 10 place penalty but he was very quick last weekend and rain is expected, he's probably the best racer in the rain.
If it rains I am going for:
Button
Hamilton
Alonso
If it doesn't:
Button
Barrichello
Trulli
Jenson is particularly quick around Malaysia so he has to be favorite given the car, but rain throws it wide open and lets Hamilton in I think.
Button
Hamilton
Alonso
If it doesn't:
Button
Barrichello
Trulli
Jenson is particularly quick around Malaysia so he has to be favorite given the car, but rain throws it wide open and lets Hamilton in I think.
All depends on qualifying and where everyone is laying before making a decent prediction on the race.
I'll go with Button for the win though.
I'll go with Button for the win though.
Toyota should do well surely
Yeah I agree, thats why I went with the 2 Brawns and Trulli who tends to go well there, I reckon he might even short fill and go for pole on the softs for the short first stint, atleast thats what I assume from past races by Trulli and Toyota.
The one thing about this whole Diffuser is that the cars without it should be able to make changes quickly to their cars without much difference to set-up.
Hamilton must be delighted with his third. Cann't have Button at all. Just don't like him. Anthony Davidson is a better driver imo
Hamilton must be delighted with his third. Cann't have Button at all. Just don't like him. Anthony Davidson is a better driver imo
This all still seems unreal
Damn right it does.
Absolutely fair play to the guy though, he was out of a job, his dream career was all over a few months ago. Not only has he got a job, he's gone all out to win the first race and done it.
That being said, I think the field will be much more wary of Brawn now, and this 1/2 business will be over soon, if not this next race.
I still can't believe Barrichello got away with what he did on the first corner though.
i think i read that Ferrari already have the part made and ready to put on the car, they are just waiting for the appeals to be done. I think the other teams are similar. However, i think i also read that RedBull have a unique suspension set up and can't adopt the Brawn Diffuser design without a major redesign of the car, which isn't possible at this point.
I agree with you there I don't like Button either. I'm glad to hear Davidson on 5 live he's good to listen to.
Davidson is so unlucky as an F1 driver, his first chance was in the shameful Minardi of 2002 for a couple of races, followed by standing in for Sato at BAR in 2005 only for his Engine to let go after a lap. The Aguri was a tough car to drive seeming as its basic shell was 4 years old but he had some impressive displays, his quali lap at Turkey lives in memory for me, he absolutely wrung the cars neck out of shape around Turn 8, stunning lap position 14th.
To say Davidson is better than Button though is a brave statement, I am a big fan of Ant but he was BAR's test driver for 3 years and never got a full time seat which says alot imo, although I think if a certain Sato was not there he would have got the second drive. Excellent commentator though, and rumoured to be BGP's 3rd driver this season.
To say Davidson is better than Button though is a brave statement, I am a big fan of Ant but he was BAR's test driver for 3 years and never got a full time seat which says alot imo, although I think if a certain Sato was not there he would have got the second drive. Excellent commentator though, and rumoured to be BGP's 3rd driver this season.
They can make the change easy enough, but it's all about how that effects the rest of the car. And with no testing outside race weekends during the season, well it's interesting
I reckon we'll have a season like the final Schumacher one, where the Renault was dominant early on, and the Ferrari caught up towards the end. Hopefully if it does go like that, we have a similar result and the early pace, Button in his Brawn in this case, holds on!
Davidson has been very unlucky. Posted some excellent test times with BAR consistantly beating Button. Is great on 5live and woul dbe a welcome addition to the BBC line-up. Also as F1 drivers go - not a bad lad.
What did youse make of the BBC coverage btw?
What did youse make of the BBC coverage btw?
I think that driving a hopeless car last season made him more laconic and realistic in interviews, I enjoyed that. I think his smooth driving style suits the new car and setup. Davidson may get another chance one day but Button is vastly more experienced.
I have no idea what he is like as a human being.
When they used to have Friday drivers who did all the low fuel runs to save the main race drivers cars, he was very rarely consistantly quicker than Button on long runs else he would be sitting in the Brawn right now whilst Button would be next to David Croft on 5 Live.
I liked the BBC coverage, Brundle obviously flawless as well as Ted Kravitz. Eddie Jordan got on my tits abit but thats just him, I like Legard as the main commentator too, easier to listen to than with Allen although he wasn't shit.
The red button forum after the race was decent and should get better, oh and for those with iTunes I would subscribe to the 5 Live Checkered Flag podcast to get Davidson's and Croft's thoughts afterwards.
hamilton has been alled to see the stewaards
F1 at it's farcical best
It's to do with the Trulli inicident last weekend. They've punished Trulli, but now it's 'emerged' (I heard someone say this just after the race for crying out loud) that Hamilton slowed down to let Trulli through under the yellow flag situation, not understanding how they'd got ahead of Trulli, and not wanting any later punishment
Toyoto dropped their intent to protest, given they didn't think they had much of a case
But now it's being looked at again, a week after the incident! Barmy. I think Trulli was hard done by, so I wouldn't have a problem with him having his 3rd place back. But it's just the way they go about making such a bloody arse of any situation. One of the most innovative sports with some of the cleverest minds in the world is run by a bunch of clueless chancer chumps
This is why F1 is a joke. Whats the point in watching a race if the result is decided 4 days later? Imagine if this happened in football with offside goals, it'd be a farce.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74146
So Hamilton has been disqualified. Trulli retakes 3rd. My earlier point stands, this sport is a farce.
So Hamilton has been disqualified. Trulli retakes 3rd. My earlier point stands, this sport is a farce.
In fairness Leg-End - Am I not right when I say that alot of the f1 teams wanted Davidson and BAR would not let him go. Contracts to Sata & Button would not allow him get a race with BAR. In 2006 he was given assurances of a drive, yet when Honda took over they decided to go with the big name of Barrichello to appease Lucky Strike.
Davidson was ultimately left in limbo and took the only option available which was the Super Aguri - again placed there by Honda as they held his contract.
I was on another board last week and a thread went up about the F1 coverage on BBC. Went up on the Saturday Morning after qualifying and ridiculed its amateur approach. I hate when people just on bandwagons and think they know F1 by being first out to knock something. I thought the BBC did a good job. I am sure like ITV they will have a studio for the European GP's. Maybe they don't need it. Legard was weak but I put that down to the fact he is not doing radio commentary. That will change. Eddie Jordan will always be a handful. Likes to get his bit in. 7/10 overall for BBC imo and also good to have the interactive - something ITV promised when they took the F1 away from BBc to start with.
Hamilton excluded from Aus GP, with Trulli re-instated, apparently
F1 News > Hamilton excluded from Australian GP!
They say his radio conversations show that he gave the place back to Trulli deliberately
F1 News > Hamilton excluded from Australian GP!
They say his radio conversations show that he gave the place back to Trulli deliberately
I missed the race on Sunday as i was on holiday.
What are the wheel covers all about? Just saw a pic of Lewis' McLaren on the BBC website.
Is that part of the Kers system?
What are the wheel covers all about? Just saw a pic of Lewis' McLaren on the BBC website.
Is that part of the Kers system?
Yeah I'm getting sick and tired of this shit. It's beyond ridiculous.
DISQUALIFIED?!?!?!
Utter, utter bullshit. Utter bullshit
Utter, utter bullshit. Utter bullshit