Don't you dare touch him. He's mine.
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Don't you dare touch him. He's mine.
Pretty sure lots have their eyes on him!
KM pulled the same stunt in the last nationality draft, so I reckon he was plotting it here again
Personally I can't see why it shouldn't and it did in the last draft. But we don't want to go ahead only for it to be ineligible later. I've PMed rpitroda but I think he's gone to bed.
I think it should not be. Top 30 would be as of today imo. East Germany does not qualify in thus regard.
But then it's trippys call!
But then it's trippys call!
61st.
In my novice opinion I don't think it should count
Does the player in question have caps for both East Germany and Germany ?
Aye, he's really the only East German you would want.
Happened in the last draft, KM got him but the rest of the East Germans weren't really on that level.
Happened in the last draft, KM got him but the rest of the East Germans weren't really on that level.
In my personal opinion it shouldn't count but I don't really know what has happened in previous drafts so it's up to yourselves.
Yes I was, but he just does not fit this criteria. I had him in last draft and would like to have him now, but he just does not fit this criteria.
What? Nooo! I was under the impression East Germany came under Germany! 
What? Nooo! I was under the impression East Germany came under Germany!
Aye, the consensus seems to be that it does!
So we'll go for someone else
What? Nooo! I was under the impression East Germany came under Germany!
@Theon
In a nationality all time draft, he definitely will be eligible as EG was a country distinct at that time, but considering it in Top 30 list of countries is not right imo.
Okay, we've already said that it's fine. We were just checking.
I would allow it, it was an independent nation at the time.
No worries mate. I'm just playing a fine line here, if you can get it....
It's clarified in the OP, gents. If you're born somewhere within the boundaries of present-day Germany - then you're out. Unless Germany has suddenly fallen out of the top 30, that is.
Then it would be a Top 30 list if when? Definitely not a country as of today.
But at the same time the same player also played for Germany who are ranked 1st.
There's a catch to this, I believe. Will explain in time...
I might as well open this particular can of worms - to get it out of the way. I'm sure many have studied certain options. But. Italian football scandal. Did Juve win any trophies in 2004-05 and 2005-06?
Formally, they didn't. They were stripped of both league titles.
Formally, they didn't. They were stripped of both league titles.
Might as well get it all out now lads.
The determining factor is the player's birthplace. If X represented Yugoslavia and was born in present-day Croatia - he doesn't qualify (since Croatia are among the 30). If he was born in present-day Slovenia, on the other hand, he does qualify (since Slovenia are outside the 30).
I was looking at that, and I think they should count as having won it for this draft. It's easier, and they did win it. Same for Marseille or whoever else.
All the 23 in runner up squads count as losers in the WC final right ?
I'd agree with that personally.
Yep.
Claude Makelele
Was born in Democratic Republic of Congo. (Zaire)
Was born in Democratic Republic of Congo. (Zaire)
Surinam wasn't independent in 1973.
True - precisely what I referred to before. I considered Davids for that category too - but he ain't eligible as per the rules stated. They didn't gain independence until 1975.
1. VivaJanuzaj & Crappy - Messi,
2. MJJ (looking for an assistant) -Ronaldinho
3. Annahnomoss - Ronaldo 9
4. Cutch - Maldini
5. NoPace - Ronaldo 7
6. Stobzilla / KM - Zidane
7. FromTheBench/Theon - Romário, Makélélé
8. EDogen - Keane, Scholes
9. BigDunc9 - Xavi, Iniesta
10. rpitroda - Nedved, Seedorf
11. BorisDeLeFora - Nesta, Vieira
12. Chesterlestreet - Hristo Stoichkov, Gaizka Mendieta
13. Paceme - Figo, Rui Costa
14. NM / Snow - Redondo, Giggs
15. Aldo - Rivaldo, Desailly
16. Edgar Allan pillow - Roberto Carlos, David Beckham
2. MJJ (looking for an assistant) -Ronaldinho
3. Annahnomoss - Ronaldo 9
4. Cutch - Maldini
5. NoPace - Ronaldo 7
6. Stobzilla / KM - Zidane
7. FromTheBench/Theon - Romário, Makélélé
8. EDogen - Keane, Scholes
9. BigDunc9 - Xavi, Iniesta
10. rpitroda - Nedved, Seedorf
11. BorisDeLeFora - Nesta, Vieira
12. Chesterlestreet - Hristo Stoichkov, Gaizka Mendieta
13. Paceme - Figo, Rui Costa
14. NM / Snow - Redondo, Giggs
15. Aldo - Rivaldo, Desailly
16. Edgar Allan pillow - Roberto Carlos, David Beckham
I was going to argue Davids should count, and maybe take him. Surname started trying to qualify fro World Cups in 1962. For football purposes, they were independent.
But the draft rules are pretty clear by just saying "independence" and with all the Yugoslav stuff it's best if we're clear.
But the draft rules are pretty clear by just saying "independence" and with all the Yugoslav stuff it's best if we're clear.
I 'll still have him and Zidane for my 8&9 category then. 2 trophy less seasons at Juventus
I had to go through like 6/7 countries' history on Wikipedia right now.
1. VivaJanuzaj & Crappy - Messi,
2. MJJ (looking for an assistant) -Ronaldinho
3. Annahnomoss - Ronaldo 9
4. Cutch - Maldini
5. NoPace - Ronaldo 7
6. Stobzilla / KM - Zidane, Davids
7. FromTheBench/Theon - Romário, Makélélé
8. EDogen - Keane, Scholes
9. BigDunc9 - Xavi, Iniesta
10. rpitroda - Nedved, Seedorf
11. BorisDeLeFora - Nesta, Vieira
12. Chesterlestreet - Hristo Stoichkov, Gaizka Mendieta
13. Paceme - Figo, Rui Costa
14. NM / Snow - Redondo, Giggs
15. Aldo - Rivaldo, Desailly
16. Edgar Allan pillow - Roberto Carlos, David Beckham
2. MJJ (looking for an assistant) -Ronaldinho
3. Annahnomoss - Ronaldo 9
4. Cutch - Maldini
5. NoPace - Ronaldo 7
6. Stobzilla / KM - Zidane, Davids
7. FromTheBench/Theon - Romário, Makélélé
8. EDogen - Keane, Scholes
9. BigDunc9 - Xavi, Iniesta
10. rpitroda - Nedved, Seedorf
11. BorisDeLeFora - Nesta, Vieira
12. Chesterlestreet - Hristo Stoichkov, Gaizka Mendieta
13. Paceme - Figo, Rui Costa
14. NM / Snow - Redondo, Giggs
15. Aldo - Rivaldo, Desailly
16. Edgar Allan pillow - Roberto Carlos, David Beckham
I do not like to bring it up. But unless we count the Intertoto cup as a pointless trophy, I don't think this is the case.
It has to be two consecutive seasons together with no trophies. And they don't have that - again, unless the Intertoto doesn't count. And, well - it was a fairly big tournament. Mickey Mouse cup, certainly - but no worse than the League Cup, say, and I presume that counts.