The Casemiro/Mount/Bruno midfield

Mount was mostly anonymous. Our field is woefully unathletic. We have 0 cohesion. Yes it's two games in, but I'm very worried. We are going to struggle. Oh ya, Shaw seems likes he's sneaking potato chips again. Shockingly out of shape it seems; just jogging about out there.
 
I get why we signed Mount longterm but I dont think he was paramount for this season over adding some much needed steel alongside Casemiro.
 
FromTheBench said:
He would look the same as Casemiro imo behind these 2.
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Yeah, Case is obviously on the decline but he's going to get a lot worse when he doesn't have cover beside him at any point. Mount looked better in terms of his individual performance but it left Casemiro with everything to do. And when you're about as mobile as a bus that isn't going to end well.

We desperately need someone like Fred in that midfield three (like Fred but not actually Fred). Ten Hag can chuck Fernandes on the wing if he's desperate to play Mount and Fernandes at the same time.
 
By far the worst midfield we’ve had post-SAF. McFred would actually show up in big games.
 
Son said:
Before Mount signed I don’t think many ever thought he was better than a fit Eriksen as a footballer. I know he’s won the CL but he’s not been super consistent for years and years like Christian has.

I dunno with Mount. 70m for what is basically a squad player was strange for me. I still dont know what he brings to the table. Certainly he’s no playmaker that’s for sure which is what we actually needed to run a game.
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I really think I've been unkind to Eriksen and what he's done here and I'll hold my hands up to that.
 
OverratedOpinion said:
Where is @tomaldinho1

I will hold my hands up, we debated this alot when Mount signed. I believed it would be an upgrade. I think I seriously underrated Eriksen as a partner for Casemiro. I apologise.

I still trust Ten Hag but unless there is something we are not seeing that can click very, very quickly then our midfield until we sign someone has to be Casemiro, Bruno and either Eriksen or even McTominay.
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All good - people have different opinions and it still might work out but I think it’s likely Mount ends up bouncing around the wings/10. I didn’t see the gane but it looks like we had the same issues?
 
We needed a completely different profile of midfielder to Mount. It’s such a strange signing and has completely disrupted the balance of our midfield and Eriksen’s legs seem to have gone so we can’t just revert to last seasons midfield either.
 
Drop Mount and start Scott.

We'll look better and more balanced. Shame we sold Fred and don't have better option for the holding midfielder than Scott but I'll take him ahead of that bang average, overhyped English player whom he himself doesn't know what his actual position is.
 
Similar midfield set up in the pre-season and early games last season where you would have one deep lying midfielder and then the other 2 pushed very high isolating the DM. Didn't work then and only really started to click when he moved to the Case-Eriksen more orthodox set up.
 
tomaldinho1 said:
All good - people have different opinions and it still might work out but I think it’s likely Mount ends up bouncing around the wings/10. I didn’t see the gane but it looks like we had the same issues?
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Not quite as exposed as Wolves through the middle bit till the main framework of us having no control in midfield and our front 3 being to weak and afraid on the ball.

We genuienly should have had 2 pens and Bruno missed a sitter but that came as a result of being a moment's team and not a good one.
 
Won't work and will get him sacked if he continues.

He got this one wrong and if he doesn't hold his hand up and change it then very disappointing.
 
Amazing that so many of us fans posting on a forum could predict that this signing made no sense and the midfield would have no balance, yet our football directors, our manager and his staff couldn't recognise this.
 
That has to be one of Brunos worst games. Be interesting to see his pass rate. Think I'd rather have seen Mctominay over him or Mount today, at least a bit more steel and energy in that middle. Casemiro looks out of depth in this midfield
 
I’ve said it multiple times before but I’ve got to repeat myself. Playing a midfield of an aging immobile DM with two weak AM’s is a recipe for disaster.

I just cannot fathom how EtH doesn’t see this. Same problem last season with no control and opposing teams cutting right through our midfield. In fact, this has been an issue for more than a decade. It’s like we refuse to invest in someone who can fill our biggest need. Rice, Caicedo, Bruno G would have been perfect but no…

Spurs played TWO mobile midfielders (Bissouma/Sarr) tonight and completely bossed us.
 
RedAlert27 said:
That has to be one of Brunos worst games. Be interesting to see his pass rate. Think I'd rather have seen Mctominay over him or Mount today, at least a bit more steel and energy in that middle. Casemiro looks out of depth in this midfield
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At some point people are going to start realising that we say that almost every week on here. The other weeks are then ‘not his best game but still goal/assist’ and then some actual great performances occasionally.
 
OverratedOpinion said:
Not quite as exposed as Wolves through the middle bit till the main framework of us having no control in midfield and our front 3 being to weak and afraid on the ball.

We genuienly should have had 2 pens and Bruno missed a sitter but that came as a result of being a moment's team and not a good one.
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Sounds like without the Wolves game before (if this was 1st game of the season) it would be seen more as two average sides being quite even and us unlucky with our modified looking suspect. But when you add in wolves a worrying trend is starting to develop.
 
tomaldinho1 said:
Sounds like without the Wolves game before (if this was 1st game of the season) it would be seen more as two average sides being quite even and us unlucky with our modified looking suspect. But when you add in wolves a worrying trend is starting to develop.
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We certainly aren't in quite the drastic panic zone that we were at this stage last season (which gives me comfort) but I think Ten Hag needs to make some pretty pragmatic decisions this week.
 
Son said:
Before Mount signed I don’t think many ever thought he was better than a fit Eriksen as a footballer. I know he’s won the CL but he’s not been super consistent for years and years like Christian has.

I dunno with Mount. 70m for what is basically a squad player was strange for me. I still dont know what he brings to the table. Certainly he’s no playmaker that’s for sure which is what we actually needed to run a game.
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Do you work for the Sun?
How on earth have you hyped it up to 70m?
 
Seems like one of either Mount or Bruno need taken out and put in McT to at least get someone in there to help Cas. or take a winger out, go 2 up top and get Eriksen in to at least try and get some sort of control in midfield.

Because right now it just isn’t working. Just doesn’t have any balance to it.

Son said:
Before Mount signed I don’t think many ever thought he was better than a fit Eriksen as a footballer. I know he’s won the CL but he’s not been super consistent for years and years like Christian has
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Generally this is the crux of the situation we find ourselves in. Mount is not a better footballer than Eriksen but what he is, is a more athletic player.
 
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ShinjiNinja26 said:
We needed a completely different profile of midfielder to Mount. It’s such a strange signing and has completely disrupted the balance of our midfield and Eriksen’s legs seem to have gone so we can’t just revert to last seasons midfield either.
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GNev kept on about us needing to sign a midfielder.
Surely he realises this was Ten Hag's choice of midfielder, and not exactly cheap at that.
 
Idxomer said:
Shouldn't have sold Fred.

He is seriously a better midfielder than anyone remaining in the squad bar Casemiro if he gets fit.
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And really, that's not even about praising/rating Fred. It just shows the staggering stupidity of our recruitment.
 
Rozay said:
At some point people are going to start realising that we say that almost every week on here. The other weeks are then ‘not his best game but still goal/assist’ and then some actual great performances occasionally.
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Agreed. Very frustrating because we know what he is capable of at his best. Not too sure I like him being captain.
 
Awfully imbalanced.

I don’t want to lump on Mount, as it’s not his fault. He has joined a new team and is being asked to play a new position. ETH clearly took a big risk and thought he could reinvent Mount into a new player, instead of buying a traditional tried and tested CM.
 
Playing both Bruno and Mount isn't going to work. Mount's place in this team should really be as backup to Bruno. We need to add a box-to-box possession mid to our starting eleven otherwise we're constantly gonna get killed in the midfield.

I was against signing Mount from the start because I didn't think he was the type that would solve our midfield problems.
 
Maybe Mount and Sancho should start the next game instead of Garnacho and Antony on the wings.

They've been poor for two games in a row now. No harm in postponing the Mount in CM experiment for later in the season when things are going better for the team.
 
What scares me even more is Mount Bruno and McTominay or Mount Bruno DVB, Mount Bruno Eriksen.

As bad as Fred was he was important partner to Case and was the best of a bad lot playing a more defensive role for a few years and needs to be replaced to offer cover for Case when missing and play alongside if our more attacking setup is not working.
 
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