The Biden Presidency

What does that have to do with Hillary supporting the embassy move in any way?
Obviously because she and Biden made Trump move the embassy and celebrate its opening with 2 Evangelical preachers thus rubbing in exactly how much Trump hates Muslims.
 
There hasn't been a US president who ideologically hates Palestinians more than Biden and there are no words left for anyone who still can't see that.
There has and he is on his way back again. And Biden wasn't coming back anyway.
 
The absence of charges doesn’t necessarily mean the absence of evidence—it could reflect prosecutorial discretion or political considerations. After all, it’s Biden’s DOJ handling Hunter Biden’s case, raising questions about impartiality and fairness. To top it off, Biden’s sweeping pardon only deepens those concerns.

I love that you've put the laptop in quotation marks as if that's still a. contentious issue...

https://www.thetimes.com/world/us-world/article/burisma-board-hunter-biden-pardon-ukraine-ndlz8p53t
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-laptop-data-analysis/

Okay then state the evidence that existed on this "laptop". You made the claim that Biden specifically pardoned his kid because of this yet by all accounts there is no evidence of any of that, just you repeating Tucker Carlson propaganda.

"Zooming back, the best way to understand the Hunter Biden Laptop saga is this: Scandal 2 is essentially a temper tantrum over the fact that the attempt to create a narrative around Scandal 1 didn’t work out as planned. Obviously, Scandal 1 did not have the intended effect — and that’s exactly what those frustrated with the thwarted outcome want to prevent from happening again. The goal of Scandal 2 is to punish government and private actors for doing exactly what they should have done — double-check sources and proceed with caution when disseminating information, particularly close to an election. The goal is to reframe the story, once again."
https://asharangappa.substack.com/p/framing-hunter-biden
 
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Trump card? Hilarious.

Trump hates Muslims and indeed almost any foreigner or person less white/orange than him. Obviously.
Trump only cares about himself and some of his family. I don't think he cares about religion. He just cares about what enriches him and gives him praise. The reason he endorses policies targeting Muslims is because most of America hates Muslims (Arabs especially) and enjoys it when they are targeted. He would have endorsed policies that target Jews if America hated Jews.
 
Trump only cares about himself and some of his family. I don't think he cares about religion. He just cares about what enriches him and gives him praise. The reason he endorses policies targeting Muslims is because most of America hates Muslims (Arabs especially) and enjoys it when they are targeted. He would have endorsed policies that target Jews if America hated Jews.
He hates jews too, his campaign has openly courted neonazis consistently.
 
Liberals will never admit they fell for the decent old man facade, just like maga fans will never admit they've been conned, that much is obvious now.

But only one of the sides is a cult apparently.
 
Liberals will never admit they fell for the decent old man facade, just like maga fans will never admit they've been conned, that much is obvious now.

But only one of the sides is a cult apparently.
Is there really anyone still defending Biden at this point? Especially given the potential long-term damage his ego might do by refusing to step aside?

I still believe several pieces of legislation he got done in his first 2 years were under-rated, but the last 12 months have been an utter disaster.

I'd strongly argue that there is a huge difference between the left and right on this front - the left are all-consumed presently with acknowledging, lamenting and trying to learn lessons from the faults of their candidates and campaigns, where as Trump's supporters support him even when he lost bigly, or committed crimes and so forth.
 
Is there really anyone still defending Biden at this point? Especially given the potential long-term damage his ego might do by refusing to step aside?

I still believe several pieces of legislation he got done in his first 2 years were under-rated, but the last 12 months have been an utter disaster.

I'd strongly argue that there is a huge difference between the left and right on this front - the left are all-consumed presently with acknowledging, lamenting and trying to learn lessons from the faults of their candidates and campaigns, where as Trump's supporters support him even when he lost bigly, or committed crimes and so forth.

In my view, when you support genocide, whatever nice legislation you passed before that is meaningless. A bit like the hitler was vegetarian and loved dogs meme. It doesn't really matter in the end. In 20 years no one will remember any legislation, but many will remember the genocide.

Maybe not americans, as most seem to have selective memories, as shown by the rehabilitation of other war criminals.

And I used the word liberals as there's really no meaningful left in america. I see liberals blaming minorities, stupid voters, woke messaging. Not a peep about gaza anymore at least. There are learning nothing and their loyal voters, like maga cultists, will continue making excuses for them. The way to go is obvious, focus on working class and making their lives better, the rest comes once you have the power. But the party has been bought and sold many times, they can't really do it.

But to my original point, do you know many people who admit joe is an incompetent old man and politician with racist views, supported genocide and is as hypocritical as the rest, as shown by the latest pardon, and they were fooled by the pretty picture of old grampa doing his best for the people? I don't see any of that.
 
I don't see many supporting Joe at all let alone excusing him. I see far more calling him out of being embarrassed by him or disgusted by his stance over Israel/Palestine. I also see many who blame him for losing the election due to him not standing down sooner despite his obvious health issues.

I do however see many still preferring him to Trump.
 

What are the chances of Biden actually pardoning Trump though?

In a strange way, I can see him doing it partly because it will eliminate the shitstorm if Trump pardons himself. It's still a massive and hugely contentious issue of wether a President can in fact pardon himself or not. I've yet to see any actual legal reasons one way or the other. All I've seen is opinions or hypothetical reasoning for or against the issue.
 
I don't know that people are still supporting Joe Biden per se. But from what I have seen online and read from liberal commentators, there is still a general belief that the Biden administration did a good job, and general confusion or skepticism that the admin could have been unpopular for legitimate reasons.
 
I don't know that people are still supporting Joe Biden per se. But from what I have seen online and read from liberal commentators, there is still a general belief that the Biden administration did a good job, and general confusion or skepticism that the admin could have been unpopular for legitimate reasons.
I think domestically he did a good job (especially considering what congress was like). International affairs is a completely different report card.
 
I don't know that people are still supporting Joe Biden per se. But from what I have seen online and read from liberal commentators, there is still a general belief that the Biden administration did a good job, and general confusion or skepticism that the admin could have been unpopular for legitimate reasons.
If you go with the Pod Save America bros, who are about as centrist liberal as it gets, they are staunchly supportive of his domestic policies, and split on his foreign policy (obviously pro his Ukraine policy, but highly critical of his Israel/Gaza policy). The latter doesn't get much attention from them though. They are set up to be supportive by default, so they aren't going to spend much time on the truly awful stuff.
 
I can't get my head around these pardons. I mean, at least Trump has said he is going to pardon all the J6 rioters on numerous occasions. Not that it would be a surprise if he hadn't mentioned it, but these from Joe, and especially some of the worst ones are completely out of the blue and make little sense to me. Unless I'm missing something and they were all wrongly imprisoned or had good reason to receive pardons?
 
I can't get my head around these pardons. I mean, at least Trump has said he is going to pardon all the J6 rioters on numerous occasions. Not that it would be a surprise if he hadn't mentioned it, but these from Joe, and especially some of the worst ones are completely out of the blue and make little sense to me. Unless I'm missing something and they were all wrongly imprisoned or had good reason to receive pardons?
They make no sense because he probably is signing anything put in front of him these days.
 
I can't get my head around these pardons. I mean, at least Trump has said he is going to pardon all the J6 rioters on numerous occasions. Not that it would be a surprise if he hadn't mentioned it, but these from Joe, and especially some of the worst ones are completely out of the blue and make little sense to me. Unless I'm missing something and they were all wrongly imprisoned or had good reason to receive pardons?

Someone put them on a very long list and gave it to him to be signed. The list is mostly non-violent drug convictions. The ones highlighted in the statement are all mostly people who did a stupid thing when they were young, involving drugs, and who have worked themselves up to upstanding citizens.

Somehow that judge and corrupt lady were put on that 1500 name list. Maybe he did it himself, or maybe someone further down the totem poll took a bribe and did it.
 
Someone put them on a very long list and gave it to him to be signed. The list is mostly non-violent drug convictions. The ones highlighted in the statement are all mostly people who did a stupid thing when they were young, involving drugs, and who have worked themselves up to upstanding citizens.

Somehow that judge and corrupt lady were put on that 1500 name list. Maybe he did it himself, or maybe someone further down the totem poll took a bribe and did it.

I get that, that's similar to the end of every Presidency isn't it? I'm sure I remember Obama and Bush before him pardoning large numbers on their final few days in office. I think Obama pardoned over 300 or something like that and like Biden, from memory the vast majority were non violent criminals, a lot of which were petty minor drug or theft charges.

I've just checked and Obama pardoned or commuted 1927 sentences in total over his two terms.

Today's lot take Biden over 8000 (Yes, that's EIGHT THOUSAND!) in just one term. That's absolutely insane.


I'm going to see if I can find a detailed breakdown of category of crime/offence and sentence length etc. I know the US has the most people in prison/jail on Earth, but to be able to pardon or commute over 8000 of them surely says more about how fecked the US judicial system is. 8000... :eek:
 
I get that, that's similar to the end of every Presidency isn't it? I'm sure I remember Obama and Bush before him pardoning large numbers on their final few days in office. I think Obama pardoned over 300 or something like that and like Biden, from memory the vast majority were non violent criminals, a lot of which were petty minor drug or theft charges.

I've just checked and Obama pardoned or commuted 1927 sentences in total over his two terms.

Today's lot take Biden over 8000 (Yes, that's EIGHT THOUSAND!) in just one term. That's absolutely insane.


I'm going to see if I can find a detailed breakdown of category of crime/offence and sentence length etc. I know the US has the most people in prison/jail on Earth, but to be able to pardon or commute over 8000 of them surely says more about how fecked the US judicial system is. 8000... :eek:
Aren't the majority of Biden's related to marijuana offences and the 3 strike rule
 
It's just funny that after the Hunter pardon a lot of people were like "ok it does look bad but you know how it would look better: if Biden pardoned a ton more people" and then they do that but accidentally (?) pardon Child Slavery Man.
 
It's just funny that after the Hunter pardon a lot of people were like "ok it does look bad but you know how it would look better: if Biden pardoned a ton more people" and then they do that but accidentally (?) pardon Child Slavery Man.
"biden is a fundamentally decent man" becomes darker and funnier with each month
 
"biden is a fundamentally decent man" becomes darker and funnier with each month

Americans love to rewrite their own history, so this will be it as far as they're concerned. You have democrats praising bush and chainey nowadays. Then they're very surprised when the rest of the world reminds them their presidents are actually war criminals.
 
But the White House did not consider any of those details when weighing the charges against Conahan or the cases of other individuals who received commutations on Thursday, said the administration official, who was granted anonymity to discuss the clemency process. Instead, the administration granted commutations en masse to all those who fit a broader set of parameters, touting the move as a record-setting act of mercy carried out just before the holidays.
Those commutations were extended to people on Covid-related home confinement after federal authorities verified that their offenses were nonviolent and not a sex offense or terrorism related, the official said. They were also all considered a low risk for recidivism, had not engaged in any violent or gang-related activity while in prison and had been on good behavior for at least a year. None of the commutations granted were individual decisions, the official added, and none who met the criteria were excluded.

 
The reason they put 8000 in there is so no one bothers to check the 1-2 that matters.

Nuts. I doubt he even signed 8000 of them. That's like 5 signature everyday for 365 days x 5 years
You do realise more than one name could be put on a list, right?