The bad (typically gun related) things happening in America thread

Americans on here. Do you daily feel under threat of being shot (to death) every time you leave your front door?

If the answer is no, not every day, then follow up question: why the feck not?
 
Dumbstar said:
Americans on here. Do you daily feel under threat of being shot (to death) every time you leave your front door?

If the answer is no, not every day, then follow up question: why the feck not?
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No, and honestly, based on my closeness (but not personal) experiences with gun related violence, I would have thought I would. This is for a couple of reasons:

1. I live in a more rural, white area.
2. I am white myself (removes most dangers from police)
3. I am not a student.
4. I am not a teacher.
5. I work remotely.

Add to that the fact that gun violence, while still unbearably high, is still a relatively rare occurrence.

My thoughts on guns should not be a mystery to anyone who has read this thread, and I would gladly trade the life of any gun owner to get back those who I have lost, but I do not personally feel in danger. I'm probably just being stupid though.
 
Dumbstar said:
Americans on here. Do you daily feel under threat of being shot (to death) every time you leave your front door?

If the answer is no, not every day, then follow up question: why the feck not?
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Not American but have lived here for more than a decade, in all that time, outside of LEO's I have never seen a gun in any public setting, I'm not worried about it

@WI_Red post is pretty much spot on and mostly applies to me as well
 
Dumbstar said:
Americans on here. Do you daily feel under threat of being shot (to death) every time you leave your front door?

If the answer is no, not every day, then follow up question: why the feck not?
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Nah, don’t feel it everyday.

And this is coming from someone who was carjacked at gun point, was led around the back of a gas station & was told to get on his knees, all the while the gun was pressed against the base of my skull.
 
calodo2003 said:
Nah, don’t feel it everyday.

And this is coming from someone who was carjacked at gun point, was led around the back of a gas station & was told to get on his knees, all the while the gun was pressed against the base of my skull.
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My friend, they may need to make a movie about your life.
 
Fair enough, thanks for the answers. @calodo2003 I know the feeling of having a gun pressed against your head while they rummage through your pockets. Any sneeze or someone else trying to be a hero then kiss your head good bye.

But that was in Pakistan. A reknown third world fecked up country.
 
Gun tales from NC: had dinner with a work colleague and his wife last night. She is a school teach and relayed that one of her fellow teachers, a black woman (this is relevant), pulled up to a gas pump that morning in a totally empty gas station. As she’s getting out of her car a beat up old car pulls up next to her and a white lady starts screaming at her (you can guess some of the words) and then pulls a gun from her purse and points it at her. Teacher jumped back in her car and sped away.

the kicker? When my coworkers wife asked if she called the police her response was: “what’s the point, is was probably all legal anyways and there’s no way they’d every believe me over her even if it wasn’t”.

America.
 
WI_Red said:
Gun tales from NC: had dinner with a work colleague and his wife last night. She is a school teach and relayed that one of her fellow teachers, a black woman (this is relevant), pulled up to a gas pump that morning in a totally empty gas station. As she’s getting out of her car a beat up old car pulls up next to her and a white lady starts screaming at her (you can guess some of the words) and then pulls a gun from her purse and points it at her. Teacher jumped back in her car and sped away.

the kicker? When my coworkers wife asked if she called the police her response was: “what’s the point, is was probably all legal anyways and there’s no way they’d every believe me over her even if it wasn’t”.

America.
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That's so depressing.
 
Imagine being a right wing politician in Texas, all the way down to the school board level, & thinking that a hair style should be the hill to do battle on...

 


Found myself siding with gun guy even though I know it's such a gross overreaction.
 
What is being said on the iPhone? I can't quite make it out.

e - christ, here's the backstory...

 
As fun as it is to laugh at a nob head getting wrecked, obviously the guy isn't entitled to shoot him there. He did get found guilty of a lower charge about discharging the gun though.
 
Drainy said:
As fun as it is to laugh at a nob head getting wrecked, obviously the guy isn't entitled to shoot him there. He did get found guilty of a lower charge about discharging the gun though.
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Agree in all. Specially the first sentence
 
Disney sued over ‘severe’ injuries allegedly caused by ‘wedgie’ from water slide

Walt Disney Parks and Resorts is facing a lawsuit related to an “injurious wedgie” that court documents allege resulted from riding a 214-foot water slide in the resort’s Typhoon Lagoon water park in Lake Buena Vista, Florida.

The suit pertains to an incident that took place on October 14, 2019, on the Humunga Kowabunga water slide during a two-week visit to Walt Disney World by plaintiffs Emma and Edward McGuinness and their family. The family visited the resort in part to celebrate Emma McGuinness’ 30th birthday.

The slide, which Disney bills on its website as a “near-vertical, 5-story drop — in the dark,” descends 214 feet and plunges riders into a pool of water to end the ride.

The suit, which was filed last week in the Circuit Court for Orange County, Florida, alleges that Disney knew, or should have known, of the risk of painful “wedgies,” particularly for women.

https://www.cnn.com/travel/typhoon-lagoon-disney-sued-over-injuries-wedgie-water-slide/index.html

Only in 'Murica.... :wenger:
 
Redplane said:
Disney sued over ‘severe’ injuries allegedly caused by ‘wedgie’ from water slide

Walt Disney Parks and Resorts is facing a lawsuit related to an “injurious wedgie” that court documents allege resulted from riding a 214-foot water slide in the resort’s Typhoon Lagoon water park in Lake Buena Vista, Florida.

The suit pertains to an incident that took place on October 14, 2019, on the Humunga Kowabunga water slide during a two-week visit to Walt Disney World by plaintiffs Emma and Edward McGuinness and their family. The family visited the resort in part to celebrate Emma McGuinness’ 30th birthday.

The slide, which Disney bills on its website as a “near-vertical, 5-story drop — in the dark,” descends 214 feet and plunges riders into a pool of water to end the ride.

The suit, which was filed last week in the Circuit Court for Orange County, Florida, alleges that Disney knew, or should have known, of the risk of painful “wedgies,” particularly for women.

https://www.cnn.com/travel/typhoon-lagoon-disney-sued-over-injuries-wedgie-water-slide/index.html

Only in 'Murica.... :wenger:
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Interesting that cnn left the injury description out of their story:

“severe and permanent bodily injury including severe vaginal lacerations, a full thickness laceration causing Plaintiff’s bowel to protrude through her abdominal wall, and damage to her internal organs,” according to the complaint.
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I would call that not a ‘wedgie’ and actually severe. You might want to take back the emoji.
 
WI_Red said:
Interesting that cnn left the injury description out of their story:



I would call that not a ‘wedgie’ and actually severe. You might want to take back the emoji.
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Smacks a touch of McDonalds coffee being hot. Soon enough we will see placards at the entrance to that ride having to spell out potential injuries diplomatically.

That said, the old Der Stuka at Wet-n-Wild Orlando shits all over the Humonga Cawobunga pound for pound as far as water slides go.
 
calodo2003 said:
Smacks a touch of McDonalds coffee being hot. Soon enough we will see placards at the entrance to that ride having to spell out potential injuries diplomatically.

That said, the old Der Stuka at Wet-n-Wild Orlando shits all over the Humonga Cawobunga pound for pound as far as water slides go.
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In the McDonslds case they were purposely serving coffee too hot to drink to prevent people getting refills. The woman had 3rd degree burns on 6% of her body and lesser burns on 16% more and required skin grafts to repair the damage.
 
WI_Red said:
In the McDonslds case they were purposely serving coffee too hot to drink to prevent people getting refills. The woman had 3rd degree burns on 6% of her body and lesser burns on 16% more and required skin grafts to repair the damage.
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I never knew this backstory. Love learning new shit.
 
calodo2003 said:
I never knew this backstory. Love learning new shit.
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Article
At one point in the film, the lawyer for Ms. Liebeck is deposing a quality control executive with McDonald’s. The attorney for Ms. Liebeck first asks this gentleman whether he would suggest that people should consume coffee when it’s 180-190 degrees. He brazenly states that no one should even think about drinking coffee when it’s that hot because it could cause terrible burns to the throat. Next, he is asked how he feels about the hundreds and hundreds of burn incidents that have taken place due to McDonald’s extremely hot coffee. Incredibly he declares that he is proud of those numbers, because he thought they would actually be much higher.

During the trial it was revealed that McDonald’s knew that heating their coffee to this temperature would be dangerous, but they did it anyways because it would save them money. When you serve coffee that is too hot to drink, it will take much longer for a person to drink their coffee, which means that McDonald’s will not have to give out as many free refills of coffee. This policy by the fast food chain is the reason the jury awarded $2.7 million dollars in punitive damages in the McDonald's hot coffee case. Punitive damages are meant to punish the defendant for their inappropriate business practice.
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Liebeck was taken to the hospital after the incident, where it was determined that she had suffered third-degree burns on 6% of her skin and lesser burns over 16%. It is easy enough to find photographs of the burns to Ms. Liebeck’s legs and groin area online, but I must warn you that these photographs are graphic and are not for the weak of heart.

She remained in the hospital for eight days while she underwent skin grafting. During this period, Liebeck lost 20 pounds (nearly 20% of her body weight), reducing her to 83 pounds. Two years of medical treatment followed this terrible ordeal.
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Documentary trailer. Free on Amazon Prime according to article
-edit: not free on Amazon Prime
 
WI_Red said:
Interesting that cnn left the injury description out of their story:



I would call that not a ‘wedgie’ and actually severe. You might want to take back the emoji.
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Nah - you take a risk when you do things like that. If you're going to do something like that and hundreds of thousands of people (millions?) have been fine something else is going on. Freak accidents happen all the time. The disclaimer culture in this country is off the chain. It's refreshing to travel the world and not see populations that need to be babied bc they might hurt themselves and sue.
 
Redplane said:
Nah - you take a risk when you do things like that. If you're going to do something like that and hundreds of thousands of people (millions?) have been fine something else is going on. Freak accidents happen all the time. The disclaimer culture in this country is off the chain. It's refreshing to travel the world and not see populations that need to be babied bc they might hurt themselves and sue.
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Disagree. It is a businesses responsibility to ensure that it’s product, when used as directed (and known dangers are published), is safe. If a customer is injured the business should cover medical costs. If it was willful negligence (like with McDonalds coffee) then there should be punitive damages.

Are there frivolous lawsuits? Of course, but the public perception that millions of people are trying to extort money from poor, innocent businesses is not an accident. Vast sums of money are spent to discourage injured parties from suing. Even the language here is manufactured, almost certainly by Disney legal/PR, to minimize her injuries. By calling it a “wedgie” it equates it to a childish prank.
 
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