The Athletic: Man Utd preparing to conduct full audit of pastoral offering to 1st team + transition from academy

phelans shorts said:
We’re bringing in someone new to look after the players, but are having an external expert look over our systems first.
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Don't meant to be funny. But do you mean we will hire consultant to assist our consultant, who will consult our players?

For players between 16-20, some parential guidance or family assistance is always helpful, but only if they accept it. Do you think Pogba will listen to your advice? Don't do this and don't do that? Even your kids don't listen that much, so you think it will work on someone earning 100K a week?

Unless you are offering full suite service, such as if you need a girlfriend, we can arrange. You need a boyfriend, we can do it as well. Need a party, call Auntie J.
 
AdNani said:
ah ok thanks


Sounds like it's aimed at players who perhaps don't have the clout with agents to be looked after as well as they should? good to see a another positive change from the club, Murtough is growing on me by the day
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Yep, that’s what is meant. At universities a personal tutor has a ‘pastoral’ role, which involves providing social and psychological help to anyone who has problems.
It does indeed derive from religious origins, but in this case, they might be thinking of cases like Greenwood, who evidently lacked guidance and - if you like- spiritual care.
 
Nice.

Pasteurisation. Free milk for the players.

That'll show Thatcher!
 
Red_toad said:
Pointless point!
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Toad by name, toad by nature clearly. Wise up. My OP simply said I found this topic interesting in the context of how different club was when SAF took over versus today.
You're replies to that very simply post are borderline trolling.
 
Jeffchin said:
Saw this on reddit:

"Pastoral care and onboarding has been a big issue at the club, something that was barely looked at till Ole came in. From the day Fergie left to the day Ole came in, we were signing players and then just dropping them off in Chester. Players were pretty much left to sort it out themselves. Luke Shaw and Memphis were the two highlighted cases where Shaw just came up with a bunch of friends and hired his mate to be his chef.

Luke Shaw was still a kid when we signed him. He didn’t know anybody so hired 2 friends from down south to be his “driver” and “chef”. Of course, none of them knew how to cook so the three would eat takeaways and play FIFA every night.

Pogba lived in a hotel for quite a while, till he could sort out a house for himself.

Cavani had big problems when he arrived and wanted to go back to South America. Turns out he just has a protein filled diet and normally has these South American style meats that you wouldn’t find in a sainsburys. Took 6 months and the player threatening to leave for somebody to point out a butchers that he could get the things he wanted from.

Meanwhile over the road, when they sign a player, they’ve got houses ready to move into with other players nearby. Here’s your driver to make sure you get to training. Here’s a chef to get your dieting right. Heres a language tutor, they’re currently teaching English to these players. Here’s 3 schools for your kids, other players kids go there too. What does your wife like? Here’s some things to keep her busy. Here’s a phone with a UK SIM card, a selection of cars for you to take. Everything is thought of and done so that a player can focus entirely on their football.

Onboarding is a hugely overlooked part of modern football. The clubs are spending 10s of millions on players but not going the extra mile to ensure their investment is looked after so they can get the most out of it"
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Interesting read, thanks.


Makes so much sense.
 
Rory 7 said:
Toad by name, toad by nature clearly. Wise up. My OP simply said I found this topic interesting in the context of how different club was when SAF took over versus today.
You're replies to that very simply post are borderline trolling.
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yeah sure Rory. I found their reply pointless, just like I find your comment.
 
Rory 7 said:
Toad by name, toad by nature clearly. Wise up. My OP simply said I found this topic interesting in the context of how different club was when SAF took over versus today.
You're replies to that very simply post are borderline trolling.
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Red_toad said:
yeah sure Rory. I found their reply pointless, just like I find your comment.
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Saucer of milk table 2
 
Rory 7 said:
If the post is 'pointless' what what was the 'point' in replying?
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Rory, Sir Alex was at the club from 1986 to 2013, the squad evolved as did the club, when he left his multi national squad, it was as diverse as it is today. Going back 30 odd years and saying it was different then is hardly breaking news and has very little relevance in the following century.
 
Red_toad said:
Rory, Sir Alex was at the club from 1986 to 2013, the squad evolved as did the club, when he left his multi national squad, it was as diverse as it is today. Going back 30 odd years and saying it was different then is hardly breaking news and has very little relevance in the following century.
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Would you agree SAF 'reset' the culture of the club starting back in 1986? And would you also agree we are now looking for ETH to reset the culture of the club starting in 2022? If so, good. All I'm saying its the OPs news item is interesting in the context of the degree of 'reset' needed. SAF didn't have to tackle diversity as part of the cultural reset. Clearly, on the evidence of the article, the club thinks we do need to address the players' welfare in the context of very diverse set of people.

I just find that difference in circumstances 'interesting'. Thats all I said. For some reason you seemed to conflate this observation from me with some 'slight' on the fact that SAF ended up managing a very diverse group over the course of his tenure - that was never in doubt nor did I suggest otherwise. My 'point' (to use your language) is that I find it interesting to think about how different the circumstances of SAFs challenge were to ETHs. I still find the OPs piece interesting. I never claimed it was 'breaking news'. I just said it made me think, which is more than can be said for your reaction...
 
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