Indeed, it's the win against City, Spurs and Leicester that should do the job for him, right ?
The “Ole In” Brigade
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It's starting to get annoying, isn't it?
It's impossible to have a reasonable debate with people (on either side of the fence) looking to gain one-upmanship all the time.
Watford drew a very in-form Sheffield in an away game, today
Not saying that we should not have won with them, but them being bottom of the league was given too much of significance. They have a new coach and are clearly playing much better than what their league position indicates. I am certain they will manage to not get relegated if they continue like this.
Not saying that we should not have won with them, but them being bottom of the league was given too much of significance. They have a new coach and are clearly playing much better than what their league position indicates. I am certain they will manage to not get relegated if they continue like this.
Indeed, it's the win against City, Spurs and Leicester that should do the job for him, right ?
If only he could follow it up with a win against Watford....
He simply can't, not in these times, new manager after him will also need time to turn this around... not to mention funds and support.If only he could follow it up with a win against Watford....
I concede that he's probably not the right man to restore us to title winners. Despite wanting him appointed, I also concede that the appointment was too early in hindsight.
I think it's also far too early to even be talking about sacking, given our current position, the faith that the squad has in him and the mitigating factors that contributed to some of our dropped points.
To call him clueless or the worst manager in the league is obsurd. To claim he's tactical genius would be likewise (if anyone has ever said that)
His transfers, both in and out, have been beneficial for the long term health of the club at the expense of short term job security - though it was naive to think we had enough creativity in midfield (though he couldn't have predicted Pogbas injury duration)
If it is decided that he is let go in the summer and Poch brought in, I'd understand. At the present moment, with everything still to play for, it would be extremely poor management to change managers unless the squad stage mutiny
I'd like to think that I hold a reasonable opinion
I think it's also far too early to even be talking about sacking, given our current position, the faith that the squad has in him and the mitigating factors that contributed to some of our dropped points.
To call him clueless or the worst manager in the league is obsurd. To claim he's tactical genius would be likewise (if anyone has ever said that)
His transfers, both in and out, have been beneficial for the long term health of the club at the expense of short term job security - though it was naive to think we had enough creativity in midfield (though he couldn't have predicted Pogbas injury duration)
If it is decided that he is let go in the summer and Poch brought in, I'd understand. At the present moment, with everything still to play for, it would be extremely poor management to change managers unless the squad stage mutiny
I'd like to think that I hold a reasonable opinion
Hahaha ffs couldnt even wait for the end of the match to start gloating. I assume you weren’t at OT then, you must have been gutted with the final result!
There are no nostalgic fantasies
This is the exact stuff we used to laugh at Liverpool fans a few years ago. We are becoming peak RAWK.Watford drew a very in-form Sheffield in an away game, today
Not saying that we should not have won with them, but them being bottom of the league was given too much of significance. They have a new coach and are clearly playing much better than what their league position indicates. I am certain they will manage to not get relegated if they continue like this.
Embarrassing.
Another made up statement with zero fact attached.
I mean, Barca gave the job to Pep who had a worse CV than Ole did taking the United job. Fact.
I mean, Real gave the job to ZZ who had a worse CV than Ole did taking the United job. Fact.
Nothing like making up complete cod s*it to enforce an opinion.
I’d love to know how many Ole Outs are post 93 ‘fans’
Pep And Zidane had the greatest start ever to a managerial career. Ole has been a manager for a long time before he came with nothing to show for it apart from 2 norwegian titles with Molde and relegation with Cardiff.
Another idiot with “I am a better fan than you” mentality.
Complete lack of sense of reality is what is laughable. United is not the SAF team from 2012, anymore. Hasn't been anywhere near that for the last 6 years and it will be at least couple more until recovery. Get a grip
Do you realise how stupid it sounds when you use the fact that someone has won two league titles as an argument against them ffs
Who expects us to perform to that level? Excuses for Ole are ridiculous really. We were shambolic against the worst team in the league because they are apparently not that bad because they drew at home with 6th placed just promoted team. Fecking hell.
Is this for fecking real? Pep and Zidane inherited top teams with Messi and Cristiano, respectively, to add extra cherries on top of the amazing squads. What the heck do you think Ole got? Stop comparing completely different situations.
He addresses these issues.
The reality is we've been without our most creative outlet in Pogba for the season. The reality is our team has done a 180 in avg age and young players are inconsistent and don't know how to grind out a win or often turn losses to wins.
Ole outs are continually squealing like stuck pigs, blubbering and bawling because we don’t win every game. Embarrassing. Try supporting United in the late 80s you nouveau fair weather Jessie’s. The problem is the owners, and will be until they go. In the meantime, if you’re feeling impatient, some advice: Go support Liverpool / City or PSG
And today with thrashed solidly mid-table Newcastle. In the future we will win some great games and will lose some disappointing ones. Because that is what happens when you have a young and unstable team, with severe lack of depth and holes in key positions. None of that is something Ole can fix in one or even two transfer windows.
So, what were you saying again?
I don't know if it is even worse that you get sacked because you'r failure to control dressing room or because of results. Either way, as I said a week ago. Lots of big teams are in trubble and I the only thing I see is that Poch is without a job. I wonder why. Can it be that he is maybe little bit overated in here?
Even if we would get Allegri or whoever there is no chance this team is ready for league trophy. He would need time to get the team right. We can maybe with the wisdom of Solskjaer and some quality of the players (including some arrivals) win a cup but to think we could win league with this team is crazy. Allegri would have exactly the same problem.
Agree.
Agree.
Disagree. You can't judge a manager because he was some player. Almost every manger has been a player in some form. Do you think Barcelona fans mind that Guardiola were their coach?
That your post I initially quoted is ridiculous and probably half of RAWK are laughing their a$$es off.
No.
Pep managed Barca reserves for a single season, winning the reserve league.. before being given the job as Barca first team manager. End of Manager CV.
ZZ. At least had some assistant coach experience and then the B team. Then got the Real job. End of manager CV.
Ole was our reserve team coach, winning trophies. Cardiff manager and Molde Manager and won trophies there also.
Facts are facts.
Pep and ZZ were complete and utter unknowns and nothing but sentimental appointments it can be argued.
Never
If you are post-93, you should get used to ropey performances, runs of games with dodgy results and wholly disappointing seasons. When we do finally triumph one day, you’ll feel much better for it. Imagine how Liverpool fans will feel when they finally win the league this season.
I "love" that. Everything is about Ole with them. If you don't think that Ole is the best thing for this club you are glory hunter and shit like that.
I understand "Ole in" fans who are those "everything is great" type of people. They are just too positive and too romantic people so i respect that.
But those who talk shit about Jones, Lingard, Young, Matic and some other United player and who talked shit about Moyes, Lvg and Jose and then on Ole threads call us (Ole out brigade) shit fans because we don't support Ole...well those guys are hypocritical bunch.
I don't hold it against him, the norwegian league is just lvls behind the biggest leauge. It's like Moyes, I think he won league 2 or something.
Yes, and actually, don’t call me an idiot please. I can guarantee I’m more intelligent than most (doctorally educated, and world leading in my field)
Jesus. There were some characters on RAWK but this is just as bad if not worse. Some downright pathetic behaviour on here.
Word of advice. Try to support your club and live your live without thinking you are always right and maybe you'll be a better human being, bruh.
Jesus fecking Christ.
You can only win the league you are in. It may not be he same level as EPL but you can’t really use it as an argument against someone.....’he won the league twice but it wasnt as good as out league so he is shite’.....
Shit, I’m a bad human being, feck that, cheers for the advice though, Massive ly helpful. Does one need to ‘try’ to support their club? That sounds proper weird. I would have thought support comes naturally? Also, how does one live their live? Sounds a bit abstract, dude
Yep, you called me an idiot?
That's Dr. Idiot to you!
Criticise the post, not the poster. Don’t be offensive
I did and some recent posts from you just confirmed my suspictions.
You seem to worry unhealthy amount about what you think RAWK laughs about...
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Intelligent or not but you’re a prick of highest order. It‘s easy to understand if someone called you a idiot because you act like one with posts like this.
I have nothing against Solskjær and I would love to see him succeed but so far he has showed nothing to convince me he has what it takes. Clueless is a strong word but sometimes he just look out of ideas. Worst manager in the league is also debatable but he’s IMO Uniteds worst manager in my lifetime and I started follow this club around 1974/75.
Take a deep breath now and stop calling others post 93 fans or other insulting stuffs.
Why do you only see life in black and white? There are many colors.
You don't have to think Ole is the best. Actually, he is not. Klopp is legit better, and Pep has more experience. So what? That doesn't mean Ole is the worst and should be sacked. He doesn't need to be the best or the worst. He is improving the team and bringing positivity in. Let him do his job. I bet you are not the absolute best at your job either, probably good enough, but they are not firing you, I hope?
It is indeed a trait of small and shitty teams to change managers all the time. We shouldnt be sacking Ole unless he is doing something irreversibly terrible, which he is not. That is the fecking point here, not that Ole is the best ever. Why is this so hard to understand?