Thai Cave kids | All 12 boys and coach rescued from cave | visiting United

Yeah, hopefully with 6 out he'll be able to have something to eat tonight, however little.
I don't think food shortage is a problem any more, there have been so many travels back and forth. That was referring to the period before they were found.
 
Bloody hell! :eek: That picture!

Everyone involved in this rescue is a bona fide
Yeah, hopefully with 6 out he'll be able to have something to eat tonight, however little.

I think it was more the food they had during the original 9 days before they were found. I'd imagine he has been eating the food they've been sending in since
 
Bit strange as there is no night/day in the cave, and youd think they'd have plenty of divers to take over...

Or maybe not
There's 18 divers in total, and 3 per passenger. So 6 kids out sounds about right, given that it was said that the round trip trip per driver is 11 hours. The time and effort would be even more when ferrying a completely inexperienced diver.
 
Great news, hope they can all make it out.
 
I don't think food shortage is a problem any more, there have been so many travels back and forth. That was referring to the period before they were found.
Bloody hell! :eek: That picture!

Everyone involved in this rescue is a bona fide


I think it was more the food they had during the original 9 days before they were found. I'd imagine he has been eating the food they've been sending in since
Ah fair enough.
 
Bit strange as there is no night/day in the cave, and youd think they'd have plenty of divers to take over...

Or maybe not

They'll be using the best elite divers for this operation and you only have a limited number of divers who are the best in this field.
 
Guardian speculating that the kids may have been sedated before the trip out.

Also, a press conference is due in a few minutes.
 
They'll be using the best elite divers for this operation and you only have a limited number of divers who are the best in the business.

Yes, there were more on the spot but apparently only the best of the best are being used. I'm thinking the death of the rescuer the other day may have something to do with it.
 
Bit strange as there is no night/day in the cave, and youd think they'd have plenty of divers to take over...

I'm guessing not. The toughest sections are being done by teams using some of the most experienced cave rescue divers in the world, the doctor is a cave-diving specialist as well as a medical one. From the sounds of it, they're working in pairs and they need the whole crew to operate like a formation dance team. They've been through the briefings/rehearsals together - they all know the cave.

In effect they can't risk their health, or the kids safety, by being tired and they can't just switch in new teams. If water levels suddenly rise or there's some kind of crisis inside the cave, I guess they've a plan B. But it sounds like plan A is to stick with the same small crew.
 
Them being sedated makes sense, the Australian doctor is an anesthesiologist, and that was perhaps the reason why the British specifically asked for his cooperation.

I've read that a standard oxygen bottle can last as long as 4 hours or as little as 20 minutes depending on levels of exertion and anxiety. Imagining a kid panicking, the divers with him getting nervous due to it, could be a recipe for disaster. In fact I couldn't even imagining the kids being calm throughout this no matter how hard they prepared them.
 
The press conference is underway.

A round of applause erupted after Chiang Rai governor Narongsak Osottanakorn said he had met the children.

He said their health is “perfect” and called today the “best situation”.

The first boy arrived out of the cave at 5.08pm local time.

50 foreign divers and 40 Thai divers are currently involved in the rescue operation.
 
They're saying the rescue team need about ten hours to prepare for the next round. Presumably to eat and sleep as well.
 
Yeah, seems it will take a bit longer than what it seemed for a while. Probably need to replenish the staging areas with oxygen bottles, etc.
 
I'm reading that even with the reduced water levels, the underwater part of the journey was 1km :eek:
 
Wait, is it 6 or 4?

4 makes sense because that would imply they are following the 4, 3, 3, 3 split they planned on.
 
Wait, is it 6 or 4?

4 makes sense because that would imply they are following the 4, 3, 3, 3 split they planned on.
Yes, it's confirmed to be 4. The first 2 came out within 10 minutes of each other. The 3rd came out about 2 hours later and the 4th after another 10 minutes. Seems like a well rehearsed and time kept operation

 
Wait, is it 6 or 4?

4 makes sense because that would imply they are following the 4, 3, 3, 3 split they planned on.

The press conference said 4 had arrived at hospital. There may be 2 or 3 others (depending on which unconfirmed report you look at) in the cave, at the rescue base, but not yet ready to move out. But that was only ever an unconfirmed report.
 
My dad was a potholer, one of his mates got stuck and died. This put me right off. Been cavern diving (never away from direct sunlight), that was nervy on its own.
I'm a novice. If you don't mind me asking, what exactly killed him? When one gets stuck, are you just left there on your own?
 
I'm reading that even with the reduced water levels, the underwater part of the journey was 1km :eek:
Depends on how narrow it is is it not? if it's relatively easy to manoeuvre then the divers can drag the kids along without much risk of them panicking.

Good going so far but not over yet. Hope the weather doesn't take a worse turn and complicates the operation.
 
Wait so are they going do do just one group a day? What happens if conditions worsen? Feck am back to being nervous now.​
 
I'm a novice. If you don't mind me asking, what exactly killed him? When one gets stuck, are you just left there on your own?
Here's an example of one such situation. Of course cause of dead may vary, but you can see that even if you're not on your own you may be in an impossible to save situation.

 
Wait so are they going do do just one group a day? What happens if conditions worsen? Feck am back to being nervous now.​
Keep the pumps running. Keep looking for alternate ways in. Keep looking did alternate solutions. And pray
 
I'm a novice. If you don't mind me asking, what exactly killed him? When one gets stuck, are you just left there on your own?

This is back in the sixties. I can't recollect the exact details. My dad wasn't with him at the time. I think he got stuck in a climbing section and could neither go forward or back and by the time they returned to him with rescue gear he'd died from a lack of oxygen.
 
Here's an example of one such situation. Of course cause of dead may vary, but you can see that even if you're not on your own you may be in an impossible to save situation.


Yeah, no thank you

They're crazier than I thought
 
Does the tide matter at all when it comes to caves? Was wondering about that. Or is it too secluded for the water to be influenced by this?
 
The rescue has been concluded for the night and will resume in 10-20 hours because “we’ve used all the oxygen,” according to Narongsak, who said the healthiest were taken out first.

For the next operation to happen, we cannot say. It will be between 10 and 20 hours, but not over 20. But we have to evaluate all the factors.

Air tanks must be put back into place,” he added, noting that today’s progress was a “great success”.

He said that 13 foreign and five Thai divers were taking part in the rescue and that two divers would accompany each boy as they’re gradually extracted.

According to the BBC, the rescue mission is slated to resume at 8am local time. It is currently 9:16pm.

Dan Johnston told the BBC News Channel that “its actually just falling quiet here” and “there’s been a lot of activity in the past few minutes” with people now appearing to be leaving the site for the evening.

One thing to bear in mind is the tiredness levels of the cave diving exerts who are leading this operation. They have been working busily all day and it looks like some of them are actually leaving the dive site now.

It looks like they’ve taken the decision that they have done as much as they can for today.

The operation is set to resume at 8am local time with officials and volunteers buoyed by the fact that their method of rescuing the boys by diving has been successful insofar.

The remaining eight boys and their coach remain at the original underground location near to Pattaya beach, suggesting that previous reports that six boys had been freed were inaccurate

Makes sense as a limiting factor. Got to reset all the oxygen supplies on route.
 
Here's an example of one such situation. Of course cause of dead may vary, but you can see that even if you're not on your own you may be in an impossible to save situation.



This is back in the sixties. I can't recollect the exact details. My dad wasn't with him at the time. I think he got stuck in a climbing section and could neither go forward or back and by the time they returned to him with rescue gear he'd died from a lack of oxygen.
Thanks. Feck that as a sport. What a horrible way to go.
 
Does the tide matter at all when it comes to caves? Was wondering about that. Or is it too secluded for the water to be influenced by this?
It 100% won't matter. Tides are actually caused by *pressure* from huge bodies of water being affected by the sun and moon. I.e a glass of water won't be affected in the same way

 
Keep the pumps running. Keep looking for alternate ways in. Keep looking did alternate solutions. And pray
Man I had hoped they were moving the groups one after the other in one go. But, they have called this perfectly so we should just trust their judgement and hope the conditions remain favourable.
 
wasnt it 6 rescued earlier :(
Myths busted:
  • 6 rescued (actually 4)
  • Weakest rescued first (Healthiest actually taken out first)
  • Rest of the boys around chamber 3 (all actually still at their original underground location)
  • One of the boys rescued being described as Code Red (governor says their health is "perfect")
 
Here's an example of one such situation. Of course cause of dead may vary, but you can see that even if you're not on your own you may be in an impossible to save situation.


That guy got entombed there ffs, couldn't even recover his body! Survived for 27 hours. Think I wouldn't survive 27 minutes.