Maybe it's as simple as a tablet of ativan.
Thai Cave kids | All 12 boys and coach rescued from cave | visiting United
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They wouldn't be underwater for anywhere near that long. The pumping means they would be able to wade through much of what was previously flooded. Still some very challenging underwater sections and getting 8 of them out without a fatality is amazing.
Isn't that one stretch a 2-3 hour dive underwater and only later on does it recede? I may be wrong.
Possibly. But that isn't drugging them to drag them out like a sack of spuds.
I think the diving sections have become much shorter due to the pumping which is why they are getting them out relatively quickly
I deleted twitter from my phone. What does it say?
It's "Channel NewsAsia" showing a graphic of the route and how it's working in simple terms, saying they'll be underwater for about 3 hours.
Amazing if true. Well amazing anyway. It was reported here that the pumping meant most of the bits that were originally totally submerged were now wadable reducing the diving to a few section - 1 very difficult and tight. No more detail than that and no reason to know what that means in reduction of total dive time.
If they are getting non-swimmers out with 3 hrs of extreme cave diving reguired the rescue is even more incredible than it already seems.
I think there's been quite a bit of misinformation, which although it isn't really surprising anymore it's particularly frustrating in cases like this that journos are more concerned with being first than being right.
I think the NewsAsia stuff has come from official briefings, and yes it's mind blowing what they're getting done.
The reports here are that the original plan was to bring out the healthiest first but that changed after the doctor assessed them and the weakest 4 came out first as 1 needed fairly urgent medical attention - the kid who was helicoptered to hospital and that they then reverted to healthiest first for the next batch of 4 - they used the quote of the former govenor to back this up. Of coutse it is Australian TV news reporting so they could have the wrong end of the stick.
Wouldn't it be wonderful if these boys could walk out with the teams for the final in Moscow?
That would be amazing.
And if I hear one more talking head talk about them breathing from oxygen tanks I'm going to scream. Air tanks you idiots.
I'm not sure given the lack of food for the past two weeks plus the psychological pressures of being trapped and rescued that sticking them on plane and parading them Infront of cameras is actually a good idea... I would have thought hospital for the next week or so as they receive treatment for malnutrition and psychological assessments / counciling might be more appropriate
Wouldnt it be wonderful if the thai team took the place of croatia. Another easy draw for England.
Plato had the best answer to this!
I’d probably be in tears
Their height would suit England's set piece strategy perfectly as well.
I would hope both the finalists visit the team though.
I know that 14 year old me would absolutely not have wanted to stay in a hospital for a week if a World Cup final was an option. Considering that this was a football team and the boys even asked about the World Cup, I can't think of a better psychological healing experience. They don't have to be paraded around at all. If they were uncomfortable, I'm sure there is a luxury box they could sit in and the cameras could be instructed to not show them. I think denying them that once in a lifetime opportunity would be more damaging psychologically personally. Even without the World Cup, once they are medically cleared going home as soon as possible is much better for their mental health than staying in a hospital.
Of course if they have some serious infection that's a different story.
They will have all (hopefully hopefully) just scuba dived and crawled through 3km of darkness, rock and water after going nine days without food. They are the toughest bastard of a football team around. England wouldn't have a chance
Doesn't sound great having the coach there on his own overnight. Think they should either adjust plans for 5 or have someone else stay there with him. The solitude and guilt won't make for a good combination.
They would have people looking after him. No way they would leave him alone.
Time is the key here. 4 a day is the best they can do based on their calculation. If their start earlier today(its about 7 or 8 am in Thai now i reckon) they stand chance to rescue all 5 today. There's also oxygen issue to tackle. Having operation undergo for 2 days i believe they can measure their oxygen use wiser. But if according to report that weaker kids being rescue later maybe they just do 2 or 3 kids today for safe bet. They can feed them ransom for 1 more day along the way today. All in all, i doubt they do 5 today. Its too risky for me but if they do, they are absolute hero.
Surely the kids have been through enough to subject them to Sterling trying to play footy.
I read that the team had actually explored in that cave a couple of years earlier. Nothing wrong with what the coach did. The team had a little group bonding excursion after training and went exploring. They aren't that little. Yes they are children, but early teens all they want to do is go exploring and I'm sure they love going up the caves and all that. Also it's not like every single tourist attraction is fully roped off and fenced in and paved. Maybe in richer first world countries, but plenty are still very natural feeling and you just go in and do your thing, which is way more exciting anyway then walking around some fenced in area.
So yeah, I wouldn't blame the coach at all. Just an adventure that went wrong. But it's like if you go skiing and suddenly there's an avalanche out of season/in a location where there rarely is one. You can't blame the guide for taking people up there, it's something they probably do regularly enough. The danger is part of the excitement in a way, just you never imagine something like this would ever actually happen.
So yeah, I wouldn't blame the coach at all. Just an adventure that went wrong. But it's like if you go skiing and suddenly there's an avalanche out of season/in a location where there rarely is one. You can't blame the guide for taking people up there, it's something they probably do regularly enough. The danger is part of the excitement in a way, just you never imagine something like this would ever actually happen.
Day 3 of the rescue
Rescue restarts. They're going to try to bring out the remaining 4 boys and the coach today. Conditions permitting.
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Let's go rescue team, the real heroes (*Not Elon Musk)
So today they will try to get all remaining 5 people out of the cave. I gu.ess it is easier for them to replenish air supply for an additional body
They're saying it's going to be a long job today. As well as the 4 kids and the coach, they mentioned the Thai doctor and the three Seals who are in there with them.
I'm not sure if the Doctor and the Seals got a separate mention because the same people have stayed with the kids for days and will get sent to hospital etc, or if that's a reference to the need for extra air bottles to be deployed half way through the day.
There's an interesting interview with one of the divers, who helps the rescuers change air bottles. There's so much trust and hope involved in the rescue.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world...rescue-no-kid-has-cave-dived-like-this-before
I'm not sure if the Doctor and the Seals got a separate mention because the same people have stayed with the kids for days and will get sent to hospital etc, or if that's a reference to the need for extra air bottles to be deployed half way through the day.
There's an interesting interview with one of the divers, who helps the rescuers change air bottles. There's so much trust and hope involved in the rescue.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world...rescue-no-kid-has-cave-dived-like-this-before
Said it before and will say it again, these divers are heroes as good as they come. Will be an amazing feat if they get everyone out today. The divers are the ones who should be brought to the World Cup final and given standing ovations and what not. Would be cool if the players could do that sort of standing in line tribute thing that we did for Chelsea with our reserves some years ago. Don't recall what that is actually called.
Guard of honor?
Agree with the general sentiment that the divers (and the rescue team) are the real heroes. The work they have done is absolutely incredible.
A guard of honour.
Holy $hit! Didn't realize that there were doctors and other personnel stationed with the kids inside the cave. Brave brave souls the lot of them.