Yep, she does not look very healthy at all. Better not go down the Céline Dion route from the years prior to the stiff-person syndrome.
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Yep, she does not look very healthy at all. Better not go down the Céline Dion route from the years prior to the stiff-person syndrome.
Disagree. They both had multiple slams by that point. Even if you disagree, it's hardly "stretching" to suggest that either was better.
I hope his body has the longevity of Novak's. What a joy and treat the next 16 years would be.
Completely agree mate…it’s baffled me for years.
Class acts.
That was really fun. I'm glad the kid won because I feel tennis is in need of a new era of superstars and champions. The way he played at times was pretty dominant in a way I haven't seen anyone defeat Djokovic in years. Not just winning points through his own power and finesse but forcing errors from Djokovic on his own serve.
Yep. He always gives respect for a good shot.
You wonder who the challengers would be. Medvedev has already started declining. Them is absolutely finished as anything resembling a contender. Clay will be his for the foreseeable future and he'll be a perennial contender at the other slams.
I love Novak and he has lost a meaningful number of slams finals down the years. I know some folks think he's got it made but he's taken plenty of licks on Sunday.Helps when you only have to do it every few years
But you're right, it's only the in-game antics that can annoy.
Yup.
Someone should put her in the not classically beautiful thread, stat! Standards a slipping!
Alcaraz needs him as well. There's nobody else in his generation good enough to push him to actually improve his game.
This game could've gone another way, so if he comes across Djokovic again he'll need to master his match play and add even more to his game.
He is not. Are we forgetting the smashed raquet?
He speaks well but he is not classier than Federer or Nadal.
Could not agree more.
Agree with the last paragraph but he will draw from this. The self belief that winning a slam like this will give him will make him more formidable in the future. Moreover, he had only played 3 grass tournaments prior to this and this was supposed to be an awkward surface for him. He'll be better on hard court.
And I hope there will be challengers akin to what we've had to enjoy with the Federer/Nadal/Novak years.
It would even more enjoyable when he has a level to his each year. Hard to see any right now other than Novak, but he won't be around much more longer, naturally.
Honestly, Clare Balding is always on about the royals. I mean, it's not about them, it's about the great hardworking talented players. It irritates me.
Amazing.
For me the failed drop shot in the final game , followed immediately by a drop shot and smooth as you like lob just says it all.
Serving to win the championship and that is your plan!
For me the failed drop shot in the final game , followed immediately by a drop shot and smooth as you like lob just says it all.
Serving to win the championship and that is your plan!
Finally, the next great one arrives. Once Novak leaves, its scary to imagine how many Alcaraz could win. There is nobody else even close. How embarassing it must be for the so called "Nextgen" to huff and puff for so many years only for some kid to come along and win two slams in his first 10 including one on his worst surface by far.
Absolutely agree! Looking forward to them slogging it out.
That was an era during which we had 3 of the top 5 or 6 players ever all competing against each other. Not sure we will ever get something like that again, but I hope you're right and we get soke compelling rivalries.
For some reason, I actually don't think RG will be his strongest Slam. I know it's an easy assumption given his nationality but I feel his extremely aggressive style is actually going to be more effective on faster surfaces such as grass and hard courts. Also, given how few quality players exist on grass, I feel he has the tools to win more Wimbledons than RG.
It's the Eastern European, mainly Balkan stereotype projected onto him. "He's a machine, a ruthless winner." Tribalism. He's so much more than that.
It'll be interesting to see. Maybe you're right.
Yeah feck the royals. Great match and performance from Carlito. Next year hopefully we get a rematch.
I love him as a player, but he is one the oficial unofficial servian alt right PR which does not benefits his image.
On the other hand he also has a lot of qualities, a person is made of many layers.
Ah yes because Federer never smashed a raquet before.
Neither Federer nor Nadal engaged in the antics that Djokovic routinely does. And it isn't astonighing that both got more love from crowds than Djokovic did.
Anyway, I'm glad we had such a great final. The women's final was incredibly disappointing in terms of competitiveness.
I thought he was having one of his best years. Even won a clay title despite hating it. And he is 3rd in the ranking. This year has been a resurgence for him. Getting to semis in grass is also a good achievement for him. I think he is clearly the 3rd best player right now.
You forgot Borg who won Wimbledon without losing a set (and had already won 2 French opens as a teenager).
I'm just going off actually performances and showings to be fair. There's not much to even suggest Becker's in the discussion other than piss easy runs at Wimbledon, he didn't have to face the elites before him - McEnroe, Borg or Connors - and has very little to suggest he was truly elite just yet away from grass. Alcaraz is genuinely truly elite on all forms already, neither of Nadal or Becker were quite there.
I absolutely agree on Nadal. Federer was pretty nasty at times himself. People tend to forget that because they're a fan themselves.
Sinner is absolutely a challenge for him. If I'm not mistaken he is 3-3 in h2h
Not even about smashed raquets. Everyone smashes a raquet every now and then. Its the underhand gamemanship that gets nearly everyone annoyed. Particularly when he's up against it. Taking forever between serves particularly when he's down, the carefully-timed extremely long bathroom breaks (did it again today). Then there's the dramatic falls and fake grimaces. The guy is the fittest player that has ever played the game. Does he expect us to believe he's hurt every single time? Come on.
The King of Spain no doubt explaining who those other Royals are
I thought he was very well regarded before covid came and he was passing disinformation regarding the vaccine, and also trying to cheat his way into the Australian Open.
Smashing a racquet is on excuse to be disliked. Nadal apart, absolutely everybody smashes racquets!
The problem is, Carlos is only getting better and Sinner isn't so I think that H2H will look a lot more lopsided in the future.
He's been all right but I feel he was a lot better on the hard courts, the two Slams he'll realistically win Slams on, in the past than he is currently.
I don't quite think his off the court views are why he's really disliked.
This is the sort of gamesmanship Federer and Nadal have also engaged in though, tbf. Its not just Novak.
Nice to see Alcaraz break up the Djokovic dominance, very unexpected given that his body fell apart after 2 sets against him at the French.
Brilliant final, and dare I say it, a changing of the guard. Unusual seeing Novak make so many unforced errors, but fair play to Carlos, incredible composure for his age.
I don't think its a changing of the guard yet though it definitely feels like two equals at the top right now.