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If he does play what is the likley reaction from the crowd?

Not being down under I dont really know if hes going to be booed and a hate figure, a hero for sticking it to the Government or if Australia is in its own culture war and it will be a very vocal split between opposing views?
He will be booed, but us Melbournians hate the federal government a lot more.
 
If he does play what is the likley reaction from the crowd?

Not being down under I dont really know if hes going to be booed and a hate figure, a hero for sticking it to the Government or if Australia is in its own culture war and it will be a very vocal split between opposing views?
My bet is he will be booed to oblivion.
 
My bet is he will be booed to oblivion.
Just for the shear randomness of it I'm hoping he plays and wins.

I'm picturing him winning his 10th Australian Open and his 21st Grand slam finally taking him above Federer and Nadal and giving him a really strong argument for being the goat... whilst a stadium full of Aussies boo and presumably sledge him ... yeah Id watch that

Edit... actually him getting to the final and then testing positive and having to forfit might be even funnier.... (presuming he does not die / get long covid etc etc)
 
So even though Djokovic doesn't have any grounds for entering Australia he's going to be allowed to anyway? This makes no sense.

Exactly. He’s got in (so far) due to a procedural mistake.

I think they can only boot him out from here. To not do so only opens the door to further chaos.
 
Just for the shear randomness of it I'm hoping he plays and wins.

I'm picturing him winning his 10th Australian Open and his 21st Grand slam finally taking him above Federer and Nadal and giving him a really strong argument for being the goat... whilst a stadium full of Aussies boo and presumably sledge him ... yeah Id watch that

Edit... actually him getting to the final and then testing positive and having to forfit might be even funnier.... (presuming he does not die / get long covid etc etc)
He has had what, 3 covids already? At this point he might very well play better with it, since its au naturel
 
Honestly, at this stage, I hope that's the end to it and he plays.
Even as someone who has always really liked Novak despite being a Rafa fan, I really hope he doesn't. While one can respect his personal choices, he should abide by the laws of a country. Besides, his behavior following his apparent Covid infection in December makes him appear even more reckless and irresponsible. I hope he's booted out and that he goes and gets a vaccination or at least starts showing some responsibility in his behavior. He is a role model after all.
 
Rather than booing him (which I think the fans in attendance will do) does anyone think there's a chance of the fans just boycotting his matches?

Like if he's scheduled on the main court, it wouldn't surprise me to see them all just walk out to make a statement that no one is above the rules.

It's a real shame it's come to this because he's had such incredible success and support in Melbourne over the years.
 
I don't really get the outrage about him appearing in public a day after testing positive though.

It's pretty likely it wasn't even a real positive, just one that he needed to get himself to AO. And even if it was positive, why would anyone expect a person with his views and his resources to isolate? He can quite clearly afford any fine that he may get, he will never be put in jail in Serbia and it would be ridiculous for him to quarantine given his views on COVID and pandemic.

Would be way stranger if he actually spent 5-6 days in complete isolation because of some test.
 
Even as someone who has always really liked Novak despite being a Rafa fan, I really hope he doesn't. While one can respect his personal choices, he should abide by the laws of a country. Besides, his behavior following his apparent Covid infection in December makes him appear even more reckless and irresponsible. I hope he's booted out and that he goes and gets a vaccination or at least starts showing some responsibility in his behavior. He is a role model after all.
I feel similar about Djokovic but if the minister is going to boot him out, make it a quick decision. If they're going to cancel it at least do it before the draw has been made, ideally before he even gets to practice tomorrow but it does no one any good to allow this to drag out even longer.
 
I dont disagree but in his mind there arent more important things than that, or if they are , preventing the spread of a virus is not one of them. That goes for his entourage as well, so nobody will advice him to take the high road right now.
From a purely selfish point of view imagine if this came to pass:
I'm picturing him winning his 10th Australian Open and his 21st Grand slam finally taking him above Federer and Nadal and giving him a really strong argument for being the goat... whilst a stadium full of Aussies boo and presumably sledge him ... yeah Id watch that
This would go down as one of the historic moments in sport, for all the wrong reasons. I don't see any good coming out of him playing. He should take this opportunity to back away.
 
I know its hard for Djokovic haters such as Ben 'my life is consumed by Novak' Rothenberg to look at stuff logically.

But people need to grasp that positive result around 8pm does not mean thats when he got informed, thats the lab result time.
 
I don't really get the outrage about him appearing in public a day after testing positive though.

It's pretty likely it wasn't even a real positive, just one that he needed to get himself to AO. And even if it was positive, why would anyone expect a person with his views and his resources to isolate? He can quite clearly afford any fine that he may get, he will never be put in jail in Serbia and it would be ridiculous for him to quarantine given his views on COVID and pandemic.

Would be way stranger if he actually spent 5-6 days in complete isolation because of some test.

Because what you are describing puts him above the law irrespective of his personal views.

People can’t just go and do what they like just because they disagree with the law on a personal level.
 
I know its hard for Djokovic haters such as Ben 'my life is consumed by Novak' Rothenberg to look at stuff logically.

But people need to grasp that positive result around 8pm does not mean thats when he got informed, thats the lab result time.
And they sat on his results for the next two days?

Unless Serbia has very weird rules on that, it'd be strange. In Poland you get informed immediately.
 
Because what you are describing puts him above the law irrespective of his personal views.

People can’t just go and do what they like just because they disagree with the law on a personal level.
I am aware and I think this is crazy, but surely this is exactly what you would expect from him. I understand being angry with that but I don't understand the shock and outrage at something that literally fits perfectly with the views he has had for the last year and a half. You'd fully expect him to go about life as usual if tested positive and he probably only got the test to get the exemption (if he even got one at all, that's it).
 
I know its hard for Djokovic haters such as Ben 'my life is consumed by Novak' Rothenberg to look at stuff logically.

But people need to grasp that positive result around 8pm does not mean thats when he got informed, thats the lab result time.

Well I don’t know about Serbia but where I live you have to quarantine until you have your result.

If it’s the same in Serbia then the time of the lab result is a moot point.
 
I don't really get the outrage about him appearing in public a day after testing positive though.

It's pretty likely it wasn't even a real positive, just one that he needed to get himself to AO. And even if it was positive, why would anyone expect a person with his views and his resources to isolate? He can quite clearly afford any fine that he may get, he will never be put in jail in Serbia and it would be ridiculous for him to quarantine given his views on COVID and pandemic.

Would be way stranger if he actually spent 5-6 days in complete isolation because of some test.
Because he was photographed with a bunch of kids one day after testing positive? Because he again had an interview and photoshoot two days after testing positive? Do you think someone who has tested positive and is infectious should be out and above, interacting with people and potentially giving them Covid?
 
for maximum entertainment I hope this gets dragged out and he gets detained and removed on court like Argentina against Brazil
 
I don't really get the outrage about him appearing in public a day after testing positive though.

It's pretty likely it wasn't even a real positive, just one that he needed to get himself to AO. And even if it was positive, why would anyone expect a person with his views and his resources to isolate? He can quite clearly afford any fine that he may get, he will never be put in jail in Serbia and it would be ridiculous for him to quarantine given his views on COVID and pandemic.

Would be way stranger if he actually spent 5-6 days in complete isolation because of some test.
Aren't you'confusing outrage with surprise. No-one's surprised he didn't isolate, but outrage is justified. It would be like saying "I don't get the outrage over the Yorkshire ripper killing again. Why would anyone expect a person with his views to not kill?"
 
And they sat on his results for the next two days?

Unless Serbia has very weird rules on that, it'd be strange. In Poland you get informed immediately.
Exactly. And the man is one of the most famous people in Serbia. There is no chance he didn't have his result on the 17th and the 18th.
 
I am aware and I think this is crazy, but surely this is exactly what you would expect from him. I understand being angry with that but I don't understand the shock and outrage at something that literally fits perfectly with the views he has had for the last year and a half. You'd fully expect him to go about life as usual if tested positive and he probably only got the test to get the exemption (if he even got one at all, that's it).

I guess the outrage is because 99% of people wouldn’t behave as he seemingly has done even if it’s to be expected from him on an individual level. It’s still crazy to the vast majority.
 
Exactly. And the man is one of the most famous people in Serbia. There is no chance he didn't have his result on the 17th and the 18th.
Theres no chance Djokovic goes to a kids event when he knows hes positive, its a PR disaster. Call him what you want but hes not that stupid.
 
I don't really get the outrage about him appearing in public a day after testing positive though.

It's pretty likely it wasn't even a real positive, just one that he needed to get himself to AO. And even if it was positive, why would anyone expect a person with his views and his resources to isolate? He can quite clearly afford any fine that he may get, he will never be put in jail in Serbia and it would be ridiculous for him to quarantine given his views on COVID and pandemic.

Would be way stranger if he actually spent 5-6 days in complete isolation because of some test.
:lol: What?! You think so little of Djokovic that him socialising after a positive test is not worth an outrage nor a surprise?! Has he publicly stated that he wants more people infected and to die of Covid or something? For any educated person to be doing that is rather bemusing and pathetic.
 
And they sat on his results for the next two days?

Unless Serbia has very weird rules on that, it'd be strange. In Poland you get informed immediately.
Would be odd, you'd expect he paid for the tests and would have wanted his result as soon as possible.
 
Because he was photographed with a bunch of kids one day after testing positive? Because he again had an interview and photoshoot two days after testing positive? Do you think someone who has tested positive and is infectious should be out and above, interacting with people and potentially giving them Covid?
Aren't you'confusing outrage with surprise. No-one's surprised he didn't isolate, but outrage is justified. It would be like saying "I don't get the outrage over the Yorkshire ripper killing again. Why would anyone expect a person with his views to not kill?"
I guess the outrage is because 99% of people wouldn’t behave as he seemingly has done even if it’s to be expected from him on an individual level. It’s still crazy to the vast majority.

Yeah I quite clearly misworded my post.

I don't get why people seem shocked/surprised. Of course it's something to be angry about but it is EXACTLY what you would expect him to do.
 
If he does play what is the likley reaction from the crowd?

Not being down under I dont really know if hes going to be booed and a hate figure, a hero for sticking it to the Government or if Australia is in its own culture war and it will be a very vocal split between opposing views?

Hard to say. A huge proportion of us are outraged but I'm not sure middle Australia will do much. I'd love to see him booed on every point of course.

Aussie-Serbs, the various freedumb/covidiot types and a few tennis fanbois will approve but the rest of us are mostly furious. That said I'm not sure me making sarcastic Facebook posts and not watching the Open on TV is going to do much.
 
Yeah I quite clearly misworded my post.

I don't get why people seem shocked/surprised. Of course it's something to be angry about but it is EXACTLY what you would expect him to do.
Wait you generally believe someone whos obsessed by his image and wants to be loved as much as Rafa and Roger would attend a kids event whilst he knew he was positive?

Makes absolutely no sense.
 
:lol: What?! You think so little of Djokovic that him socialising after a positive test is not worth an outrage nor a surprise?! Has he publicly stated that he wants more people infected and to die of Covid or something? For any educated person to be doing that is rather bemusing and pathetic.

Well he's hosted a tennis tour in the middle of pandemic, which resulted in an outbreak and said 'he would definitely do it again'.

His wife is basically a complete conspiracy freak. I know he can't be held accountable for his wife's views, but given his stance on vaccine, hosting the tournament and not isolating following an apparently positive test, it's quite clear he doesn't really care.
 
So if I’m understanding correctly, we’re to believe that he took an in-no-way-opportunistic test on the 16th. Presumably he wasn’t having symptoms as he didn’t isolate pending the results. Let’s give him the benefit of the doubt that he had genuine reasons eg being a close contact. Then he goes about his daily life for a couple of days, does the usual stuff; massive public gathering with children, masks off interview with L’Equipe then some time after that he gets his (very belated results), then presumably isolates for a few days and is then spotted practising in Marbella just after Christmas, free of Covid as per the test on the 26th. That’s quite the needle to thread.
 
Wait you generally believe someone whos obsessed by his image and wants to be loved as much as Rafa and Roger would attend a kids event whilst he knew he was positive?

Makes absolutely no sense.

Well he almost certainly knew he was positive and did attend the event.

Unless the test was fake, obviously. There's no other avenue here, either he was positive, knew it and attended the event or he knew the test was fake and was only done to give him a way to make it to AO (conveniently just a month before).

Of course there's also a possibility of test results not being revealed to him, for some strange reason.
 
I know its hard for Djokovic haters such as Ben 'my life is consumed by Novak' Rothenberg to look at stuff logically.

But people need to grasp that positive result around 8pm does not mean thats when he got informed, thats the lab result time.

If you had cause for getting a PCR test, you should presume you are positive until that result comes back and says otherwise.

Seriously the mental gymnastics trying to defend the inexcusable is staggering.
 
Wait you generally believe someone whos obsessed by his image and wants to be loved as much as Rafa and Roger would attend a kids event whilst he knew he was positive?

Makes absolutely no sense.
He's an anti-vaxxer, who organised the Adria tour tournament and partied with the other participants with no consideration of the Covid risks early on during the pandemic. Of course it fits with his image to completely ignore the science and also think he's above the rules.

It's incredible that you think that the most famous person in Serbia would have to wait days to get the results of their test and, even if by the faintest chance that was the case, why did he think it was reasonable to attend anyway before getting the result unless he just doesn't give a shit about the whole thing?
 
He's an anti-vaxxer, who organised the Adria tour tournament and partied with the other participants with no consideration of the Covid risks early on during the pandemic. Of course it fits with his image to completely ignore the science and also think he's above the rules. It's incredible that you think that the most famous person in Serbia would have to wait days to get the results of their test.

Basically this. His PR people likely wouldn't allow him to go out there in public with conspiracy nonsense to that extent, but all the evidence quite clearly points to him not really being all that bothered about COVID, and is consistent with his comments and previous behavior.
 
If you had cause for getting a PCR test, you should presume you are positive until that result comes back and says otherwise.

Seriously the mental gymnastics trying to defend the inexcusable is staggering.

Yep it's not like he was getting a random test to be able to travel etc. and had little reason to assume he would turn out positive.

He presumably did it because of being in contact with someone who tested positive - which we actually knew he was, given the picture with Barcelona basketball player who tested positive 2 days before.
 
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