wr8_utd
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Murray should get back to playing singles asap. Provided he can stay fit, he'll be back to the Top 15 in absolutely no time.
I think Djokovic would rather face Raonic than RBA. Unlike the Canadian, RBA can actually do more than just serve aces and he's also beaten Novak twice already this season and took Federer to 3 sets in Halle.If Raonic loses this, then Djokovic's run to the final would mean Goffin in the QFs and then Pella or RBA in the semis
Excellent is extreme, he's hardly beat anybody great outside Khachanov.It is for me. Berrettini was excellent on grass this year.
Don't mind it though! Let it be easy until Sunday 7-8 PM!
More of a rounded game but RBA isn't capable of serving himself out of trouble. I don't think either will cause him problems but I'd be more wary of Raonic at WimbledonI think Djokovic would rather face Raonic than RBA. Unlike the Canadian, RBA can actually do more than just serve aces and he's also beaten Novak twice already this season and took Federer to 3 sets in Halle.
With Novak being the greatest returner there is, I think he can neutralize the Raonic serve well and as we can see here also, Raonic is kind of average once a rally is on and Djokovic would eat him up.More of a rounded game but RBA isn't capable of serving himself out of trouble. I don't think either will cause him problems but I'd be more wary of Raonic at Wimbledon
I really don't know why anyone thinks Raonic going out is good for Djokovic. He's got all the tools to neutralize Raonic's serve and once that is done, there's nothing left to his game.like I've said, wouldn't be surprised if Pella takes this. Djokovic has everything going his way atm.
also, nice one, Berretini. Tomic would get slaughtered if he played like Berretini today and Cilic (vs Sousa).
While that is all true, I still think he's a much bigger threat than RBA or Pella for me. Neither player has experience at the later stages of slams too.With Novak being the greatest returner there is, I think he can neutralize the Raonic serve well and as we can see here also, Raonic is kind of average once a rally is on and Djokovic would eat him up.
I really don't know why anyone thinks Raonic going out is good for Djokovic. He's got all the tools to neutralize Raonic's serve and once that is done, there's nothing left to his game.
And Raonic is out. Two utterly awful volleys to end it.
I can't grasp the whole everything going Djokovics way posts. Seems like people post this every tournament to downplay him.
That is partially the point. A soft draw that has become easier. You can only beat what's in front of you and that's what he's done.I can't grasp the whole everything going Djokovics way posts. Seems like people post this every tournament to downplay him.
He is 9-0 vs Raonic. Who has went out that would trouble him? Anderson has been injured and off form. Medvedev is not great on grass and Goffin beat him, same with Tsitsipas. Could be argued this is hardest opponent he could of faced albeit you would take it each slam. Zverev and Thiem went out in the bottom half.
players like him can be very dangerous because you can't return their serves on this surface when they're in the mood. even Djokovic struggles with that, as we saw vs Anderson once or Querrey. not even Federer bothered him that much as those two did. neither Pella neither Agut are one-dimensional as Raonic, but they also can't really surprise him with anything. they simply lack power and he'll just outlast them and break them more times than they're capable of doing that to him. he can sometimes lose against such players in "lesser" tournaments but not here.
That is partially the point. A soft draw that has become easier. You can only beat what's in front of you and that's what he's done.
Yeah but these guys are also more capable of breaking Novak than someone like Raonic who can't really seem to win any extended rallies or return well at all.
He did face some tough matches vs Querrey and Anderson but those were back in 2015 and 16. Last year Anderson was actually in good form and Novak took him apart in the final. Ofcourse if he gets a Raonic or Anderson absolutely redlining, they'd trouble him but it's pretty unlikely given how much they've dropped off now. RBA is also the only guy who's yet to drop a set and then fact that he's beaten Novak twice already will give him a bit of a mental boost as well.
His draw wasn't difficult for sure but it's harder than what Federer has gotten and yet the talk only seems to be of seeds falling in Novak's half. Federer's had a dream draw and too without seeds falling along the way. Rafa's the only one who's had a tough draw tbh. I wish Thiem had made it now instead of Querrey . Unlike Novak, Rafa actually does have a very long history of struggling against such players here and Querrey's been broken ONCE all tournament and leads the ace count. However, if Rafa can get a decent read on his serve, he ought to win this easily enough because Querry's overall game also seems pretty average.
That’s a bit of a stretch saying he has long history.
You look at the recent players he’s lost to at Wimbledon and Muller is really the only serve bot there. I mean you could say Kyrgios but he has more to his game when he bothers. Istomin, Rosov and Brown weren’t serve bots.
Let’s take Nadals record against best serve bots. That’s Raonic, Isner, Anderson, Karlovic and Querry.
Nadal is 4-1 against Querry.
5-0 vs Anderson
7-1 vs Isner
5-0 vs Karlovic
7-2 vs Ranoic
So he’s lost four matches in total to the serve bots.
Federer has lost seven matches to them albeit he’s played more matches against them.
Djokovic has lost eight matches to the above players despite not losing one to Raonic.
So the long history comment doesn’t wash with me. Nadal should be winning matches vs Querry. It’s a tough match but if he wants to win grand slams outside of clay these are the sort of players he should beat with ease.
I think this Wimbledon besides Kyrgios vs Nadal has been pretty poor. The matches have been crap and too many top seeds outside the top three going out.
See you next year, guys. Same bat time, same bat channel.Fair play to Konta for delaying her annual panic attack/breakdown by a day or two.