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They are potential yes....but no more so than 1-5, 2-6, 3-7, 4-8 being the matchups.
 
Well if he didn't skip the Clay season, he'd likely be 1 or 2 seed....so the potential to avoid Novak until the final instead of semis would of been there.
 
saivet said:
I don't think Djoko will make the SF
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Uninspiring as he is, Wimbledon is the perfect tournament for him to rediscover his mojo given a mediocre field. Of course, Fed has no god given right to make the semi despite being the favourite but Djokovic remains his Kryptonite. A big performance against Fed might just be what can rekindle his fire.
 
InfiniteBoredom said:
Uninspiring as he is, Wimbledon is the perfect tournament for him to rediscover his mojo given a mediocre field. Of course, Fed has no god given right to make the semi despite being the favourite but Djokovic remains his Kryptonite. A big performance against Fed might just be what can rekindle his fire.
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Wimbey is his worst surface. Murray (even in his wank form of late) is more dangerous there than Novak. I'd argue that even Nadal could take Novak out considering their level at the moment.
 
InfiniteBoredom said:
Uninspiring as he is, Wimbledon is the perfect tournament for him to rediscover his mojo given a mediocre field. Of course, Fed has no god given right to make the semi despite being the favourite but Djokovic remains his Kryptonite. A big performance against Fed might just be what can rekindle his fire.
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I think there are enough big hitters around in the early rounds that will cause Djokovic problems (same issue with Nadal I feel). Federer this year has been great, and nothing points to him losing against Djokovic. Even if the do meet, I wouldn't be surprised to see a similar outcome like when Rafa played Novak in Madrid this year.
 
On Novak, just realised he took a wildcard to play Eastbourne. His first Wimbledon warm up tournament since 2010.
 
saivet said:
I think there are enough big hitters around in the early rounds that will cause Djokovic problems (same issue with Nadal I feel). Federer this year has been great, and nothing points to him losing against Djokovic. Even if the do meet, I wouldn't be surprised to see a similar outcome like when Rafa played Novak in Madrid this year.
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Trust me, I'd love nothing more than Fed getting Novak back for all those heartbreaks post 2012. Maybe you are right, its just that I dont know how Fed's frame of mind would hold against him. He dispatched Nadal with ease after Melbourne but the almost blew the AO prior to those 5 magical games.

Enigma_87 said:
Wimbey is his worst surface. Murray (even in his wank form of late) is more dangerous there than Novak. I'd argue that even Nadal could take Novak out considering their level at the moment.
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Iirc Murray has only once beaten Fed on grass in a 5 setter (London 2012). For whatever reason, Novak seems to have Fed number. Now I know the fear is a bit irrational and strictly by current level Fed should win, still...
 
InfiniteBoredom said:
Iirc Murray has only once beaten Fed on grass in a 5 setter (London 2012). For whatever reason, Novak seems to have Fed number. Now I know the fear is a bit irrational and strictly by current level Fed should win, still...
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Yeah I know that Murray is Fed's pigeon in terms of GS matches (or YET for that matter), but Federer is different player this year compared to last one and the one before. Obviously Joker as well. It would be an easier match for him due to Murray/Djoker net game. Murray excels there whilst Djoker is a bit underwhelming. Considering his form I don't think he'll cause him problems if Fed is in the zone.

I'd expect Federer to beat them both, but have issues with someone like Kyrgios.
 
Kyrgios seems to be battling some nagging injuries. He hasn't been able to recapture his IW and Miami form at all.

Had to work sunday shift today so I couldn't see the match. Thank god for replays
 
What in the blue world makes someone think Djokovic is Feds kryptonite? At his ruthless peak, Djokvoic still couldn't fend off Federer, a person 5 years his senior as easily as he should have, arguably his comfortable of big wins still went to 4 in the Aussie last year. Theres no odd winning streaks, or brutal dominations like Nadal had over Federer....just age and different peaks.

I'm not entirely sure what's behind Feds odd dominance of Murray mind you, if you are speaking of kryptonite, Federer is all over Murrays mental state....but they haven't played in 18+ months, so it may not matter.
 
Zen said:
What in the blue world makes someone think Djokovic is Feds kryptonite? At his ruthless peak, Djokvoic still couldn't fend off Federer, a person 5 years his senior as easily as he should have, arguably his comfortable of big wins still went to 4 in the Aussie last year. Theres no odd winning streaks, or brutal dominations like Nadal had over Federer....just age and different peaks.

I'm not entirely sure what's behind Feds odd dominance of Murray mind you, if you are speaking of kryptonite, Federer is all over Murrays mental state....but they haven't played in 18+ months, so it may not matter.
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To be fair it's five years since Federer beat Djokovic in a BO5, that might be a bit of a mental block. I agree though, logically if a post-prime Fed could run prime Djokovic so close then based on this year Federer would be the favourite.
 
Giggsy92 said:
To be fair it's five years since Federer beat Djokovic in a BO5, that might be a bit of a mental block. I agree though, logically if a post-prime Fed could run prime Djokovic so close then based on this year Federer would be the favourite.
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And probably closest to see Federer play close to his peak (those five years ago). Resultwise 13-16 is pretty poor time for Federer. He still made it to the later stages of top tournaments, but by no means close to his top level(or consistency).
 
Enigma_87 said:
And probably closest to see Federer play close to his peak (those five years ago). Resultwise 13-16 is pretty poor time for Federer. He still made it to the later stages of top tournaments, but by no means close to his top level(or consistency).
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The Federer of Wimbledon 2012 would have won quite comfortably in 2014 or 2015 I think. Weird how at the time that tournament felt a bit like a last hurrah.
 
Didn't realise Kvitova had won Birmingham, some achievement that. Would be a hell of a story if she won Wimbledon.
 
Giggsy92 said:
The Federer of Wimbledon 2012 would have won quite comfortably in 2014 or 2015 I think. Weird how at the time that tournament felt a bit like a last hurrah.
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Indeed. Wonder what would happened in 2003/2004, etc at Wimbey if Sampras didn't retire.
 
Hernandez - BFA said:
Not sure how this one will pan out.
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Those outside of the sport who know of Serena will probably cry sexism a bit, but for any who has even a rudimentary knowledge of tennis would acknowledge the truth of the statement.

In fact, 700 is quite generous. I think she'd be hard pressed against 1000 or below.
 
Serenas best weapon is her power. That's not going to get far in the men's game as we seen with a lot of power players. Then you add in with the inconsistency of the other women and you can see why she easily dominates.
 
Bojan11 said:
Serenas best weapon is her power. That's not going to get far in the men's game as we seen with a lot of power players. Then you add in with the inconsistency of the other women and you can see why she easily dominates.
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Or she's simply better than everyone else.
 
The womens game would be a lot more interesting with smaller courts. The entertainment would match the mens game, because then they'd have to worry about a little more than trying to hit the ball as hard as they can.
 
InfiniteBoredom said:
Those outside of the sport who know of Serena will probably cry sexism a bit, but for any who has even a rudimentary knowledge of tennis would acknowledge the truth of the statement.

In fact, 700 is quite generous. I think she'd be hard pressed against 1000 or below.
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Yep, Dimi Tursanov is currently 700 in the world - he was once a pretty good player and is only 34. I'd fancy him to win very comfortably.
 
Hernandez - BFA said:
How does one apply for tickets for the Wimbers Final?
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Ticketmaster 9am the day beforehand they put up like 300 tickets. Tickets understandably go quicker than the time it took for you to write that question.

I'm only going to try if Nadal makes the final.
 
saivet said:
Ticketmaster 9am the day beforehand they put up like 300 tickets. Tickets understandably go quicker than the time it took for you to write that question.

I'm only going to try if Nadal makes the final.
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I see. No other way no?

Many thanks.
 
Hernandez - BFA said:
I see. No other way no?

Many thanks.
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Either touts, having someone who is well connected or you can pay for a debenture ticket. With the later you'll have no problem finding them online but starting price for mens final tickets is around £3k.
 
saivet said:
Either touts, having someone who is well connected or you can pay for a debenture ticket. With the later you'll have no problem finding them online but starting price for mens final tickets is around £3k.
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Cheers boss.
 
The McEnroe comments is just spun out of control by the papers. He said Serena was the greatest women's player of all time, was then pressed as to why he said "women's" and that's why he responded as such. And it's completely true.
 
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