Kyrgios looks like the love child of Vidal and Nani
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John Milman, what a legend 
Was Kyrgios truly injured, or did he feel a bit of pain and then just chuck it? Shame.
I don't believe his "injury". Seems to happen to him all the time. He was whacking it with crazy power even in the 4th set but his head just never seems to be in the right place. He had such an easy draw till the Fed match as well.
Kyrgios 'throwing' the game because he knows he's not gonna win is the classic defence mechanism he has. He probably just can't handle the fact he's not consistently good enough.
Big test for Shapovalov later today. If he can get through this then who knows where he will go.
It's frustrating because of how good he can be. He was so clearly the better player than Millman and even if he put in 5% more hard work this was his game.
Kyrios is an absolute clown. His attitude won't let him achieve anything significant in his career.
I'd say bad influence and heaps of pressure. Australia has been crying out for a tennis star and after Tomic flopped, all eyes were on him to make a big impression after Wimbledon 2014. Living in here you can really see the critics out in droves after he had a bad performance. He was labeled a problem child even before he was one.
Not saying that his attitude on court has been acceptable, but there are mitigating reasons. I really hope he can put his problems behind him, yet he seems set to become another Tomic. At this rate, the best he can hope to be maybe another Safin.
Good riddance. I can't stand his blatantly non-sportsmanship behavior. He is the only one the behaves like an absolute bellend , and insists on doing so. I guess he maybe not completely right in the head .
Yeah, don't like him either. He's talented, but also the perfect example of someone who doesn't have the mental strength to fulfill his potential.
Kyrgios looked pretty injured to me but maybe I'm just gullible. Good news for Federer anyway, third round will still be tricky (even Youzhny will be if Fed plays like he did last night) but otherwise a nice run to hopefully play himself into some kind of form for the second week. Rafa's draw getting easier as well with Fognini going out.
Nadal's issues are going to be Berydch and then Dimitrov. If he somehow makes it through that, there's Fed. So yeah, not very good
The quality in this Sharapova match is so poor. Double faults and errors, that's all that's happening.
Wouldn't be surprised if Babos loses this. Don't think there's a mentally weaker player than her. She's always capable of throwing it away from winning positions.
Good thing I put some money on Sharapova to turn it around when I wrote the previous post.
Sharapova turned it around and she ought to but holding serve is always such a struggle for her. Really ought to have fixed it over the years.
Pouille is such a bottler.
Great match between Coric and Zverev so far.
What are their draws like? Goffin in one of their sections?Nadal's issues are going to be Berydch and then Dimitrov. If he somehow makes it through that, there's Fed. So yeah, not very good
Scratch that, it's not a great match - it's fecking brilliant!
Zverev 2-1 down now..
After multiple chances to break in this set he goes on to lose in a tie break.. And doesn't even win one point on his serve
Zverev eliminated. What a performance by Coric though! He was absolutely brilliant and defenitely deserved to win.
Think Zverev could do with some rest. He's looked a bit tired since his win over Federer.
Think Zverev could do with some rest. He's looked a bit tired since his win over Federer.
So the two biggest young talents knocked out at the first hurdle.
Shapovalov is doing it. Kid can shine this tournament.
This kid will be number one within a couple of years.
You keep making these statements just like with Zverev. Zverevs been a flop in most of the grand slams. This was his best chance to get in a semi final. Nadal and Federer will be delighted with these exits as less big hitters.
Tsonga just isn't the same play he was maybe a few years back. Seems to suffer a early loss in every tournament.
Now with Sascha out, Cilic will look downright incompetent if he doesn't make the final.
I doubt anyone other than Fed from the top half is capable of beating him on form after going through all those tough matches. Rafa on clay form might do it but he's played progressively worse ever since FO. On current form he might not even beat Dimitrov, who nearly beat him at AO.
I doubt anyone other than Fed from the top half is capable of beating him on form after going through all those tough matches. Rafa on clay form might do it but he's played progressively worse ever since FO. On current form he might not even beat Dimitrov, who nearly beat him at AO.
Which one?
Shapovalov.
Try thinking beyond the tip of your own nose. Both Shapuvalov and Zverev will improve immensely over the next few years at a time when the oldies are fading rapidly. These two will still be going at it a decade from now.
Zverev had the perfect chance this tournament. It wasn't a oldie who knocked him out. 5 of the top 8 players missing and he couldn't make it past the second round. Which is pretty poor. Would have boosted his confidence if he managed a semi final run this tournament.
Well obviously these two are going to go at it in a decades time. But it's far too early to make judgments like he's gonna be a world number one in the future. Tomic and Kyrgios had that handle too and it's not quite working out for them. The future world number one could be in the juniors. It's far too early to make assessments on what they'd do in the future. You were hyping up Zverev for the US open a month ago to me.
Zverev for all his brilliance has only made the second week of a grandslam once this year. Which is pretty poor given the form of a lot of the top players. Murray and Djokovic won't be this poor next season. We can make excuses about his age. But Murray, Djokovic, Nadal and Del Potro at his age were making semi finals or finals of slams. Del Potro and Djokovic at 20 won their first slam.
It's impossible to correctly predict a player's trajectory. Prior to 2014, very few thought Stan would ever amount to anything more than a top 10 player looking in. No one thought Fed would have a year such as this ever again either.
The next gen are all at a similar level, with their own pros and cons. Maybe Thiem finally improves his game outside of clay, maybe Nick put his problem behind him, maybe Dimitrov shakes off his inconsistencies. Shapovalov is having a fine time breaking through, but there's no guarantee his head won't go with the newfound level of attention, adulation and pressure.
For all we know, the current young guns might perpetually live under the shadows of the oldies, and it'll be the generation after them coming from juniors who set themselves at the top.
The next gen are all at a similar level, with their own pros and cons. Maybe Thiem finally improves his game outside of clay, maybe Nick put his problem behind him, maybe Dimitrov shakes off his inconsistencies. Shapovalov is having a fine time breaking through, but there's no guarantee his head won't go with the newfound level of attention, adulation and pressure.
For all we know, the current young guns might perpetually live under the shadows of the oldies, and it'll be the generation after them coming from juniors who set themselves at the top.
Zverev going out isn't even surprising. The guy still hasn't beaten a Top 50 player at any Slam. I just don't see any of the current generation with a good mix of talent, charisma and the mentality and balls to be top players. Zverev had the easiest possible path to a Slam final and cant make it to R3.
Nadal and Murray have the charisma of a log, so was Sampras. Fed before he started winning regularly was hardly charming himself.
Winning breeds confidence, which translates sometimes to charisma. It's not a requisite for success.
Federer was Long thought of as a loser and bottler because until Sampras at Wimbledon 2001 he'd shown lots of promise but made no real impressions at Majors and even in 2002 he fell flat on his nose. Zverev CLEARLY demonstrated that he has the Talent and mentality with 2 Masters under his belt and the Kind of Tennis he has produced over long stretches this year. Time will tell, of course, but him and Shapovalov clearly have everything needed to get to the top.
The kid is 20 years old in an age where Players seem to Peak much later than before given the physical demands of the game today. The result is a huge disappointment, but it's not like Coric is a matchup everybody dreams about in round 2.
I think you're being unfair to Nadal. He didn't enter the tour bilingual and I usually enjoy listening to him. He can be surprisingly funny.
Murray is a personality black hole.
Anyone can be funny at times, charisma is different from humour. Nadal would be as regular a bloke as can be if he couldn't hit a tennis ball as well as he does. For that matter, neither was Fed in his teens-early 20s.
It's no shame, they are adored because of their sporting prowess.
I'm not sure what 'charisma' we're talking about. What's relevant is the mentality you have. Both Nadal and Federer have plenty on the court where it matters. They're mentally stronger and hence have stronger personalities than almost anyone. Charisma is different. Balotelli has charisma. Being a colorful personality has little to do with sporting success. It's character that matters.
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