Nadal be doing kumbaya right now.
Tennis 2017
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It really depends on what sort of Dolgo comes though. Nadal often has these sort of players who have the absolute matches of their lives against him when everything comes off. Obviously Nadal will be favorite but I'm always of him coming up against these unpredictable lot.
If Dimitrov goes out then Nadal won't even have to get out of first gear to get through that quarter. Might leave him undercooked for when he finally comes up against a good player or might mean he's fresh as feck for the semis, who knows. 2013 would suggest the latter but then it's a different Rafa these days.
Dimitrov down a break in set 3.
This is over methinks.
This is over methinks.
2 games in and Youzhny already looked like he doesnt want to be there.
2 DFs to give away the game. Fed up a break.
Probably an easy one.
2 DFs to give away the game. Fed up a break.
Probably an easy one.
Think Youzhny's taken about three sets off Federer in their 16 previous matches. All eyes on the back and his movement instead of the actual match.
Looks like Dimitrov is toast.
Another bottle for Dimitrov's collection.
His shots looked tame to me, seems like he doesnt want to overexert himself.
Dimitrov out.
The most uninspiring match I've see Dimitrov play lately.
Nadal's quarter looks cakewalk.
Nadal's quarter looks cakewalk.
Dimitrov 
Dimi, Nick and Zverev all can't make it past R2. Yeah, I'm not expecting anything from these guys next year either.
Dimi, Nick and Zverev all can't make it past R2. Yeah, I'm not expecting anything from these guys next year either.
That drop shot is pure sex.
Dolgo/Troicki next and then probably Monfils/Goffin and if he makes it through those, then the defeat to Fed
Just switched it on. WTF is Fed wearing
Must have seen that United's tweet.
We've been waiting for this "top talent" to come through for ages. Where is it? Dimitrov/Raonic/Tomic etc? They failed. The current lot of Zverev/Thiem/Nick seems promising enough but not good enough to beat even the ageing Top 4. You just don't get players mentally or physically strong enough these days imo.
It's Day 4 of the Slam and Zverev, Nick and Dimi are all already out.
Goffin is a clown at the USO. By far his worst slam, think he has negative w/l there.Dolgo/Troicki next and then probably Monfils/Goffin and if he makes it through those, then the defeat to Fed
Think he'll be out against Pella(lost the first set), let alone get to Nadal.One dressed like a gay Barbie and the other did his best to give the impression of a corset on his shirt.
6-1.
Why do you keep bringing up the current slam ? Rather than fixating on how player X or Y are doing in the current tournament, you have to take the long view. We know that Federer and Nadal are on the wane and Djokovic and Murray are not exactly improving these days. You take a young player like Shapovlov and give him another couple of years to develop, and its pretty easy to see how he and his young contemporaries will be running the show in a couple of years. Or conversely you can continue believing that Federer and Nadal will be dominant in 2025 because "there are no good young players coming through".
None of Goffin/Thiem etc seem to do as well on the hards as compared to the clay. Think Dolgo will be Nadal's toughest test before the SF.Goffin is a clown at the USO. By far his worst slam, think he has negative w/l there.
In a couple of years when Fed is 38, Nadal and co at 33-34? Sure maybe then but like I said earlier, I just don't see these guys winning even next year. Unless something drastic changes for them over the end of season and unless Fedal suddenly forget how to play tennis, there's still going to be a big gap. Also I really think Djoko and Murray are going to come back pretty strong next season after half a season of rest. I can see these kids win maybe 2-3 seasons from now but not before that.
They are on the wane like 3-4 years now? Then 2017 comes and they sweep the big titles and are ranked 1 and 2 in the world.
You're just going in circles.
Nah, Dolgo is pretty inconsistent and especially in his serve game - the main thing that can trouble Nadal.
Thiem I'd expect to lose to Mannarino if they both go through.
They are on the wane like 3-4 years now? Then 2017 comes and they sweep the big titles and are ranked 1 and 2 in the world.
I said earlier that this year was a one off where red sea parted favorably for both Federer and Nadal by way of Djokovic and Murray being non factors and the aforementioend two playing very well. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that this is an unsustainable short term blip and not the new norm.
Youhny broke. FedError mode on.
There's no power in his shot. Wonder if the back issue is still there.
There's no power in his shot. Wonder if the back issue is still there.
Fed lost focus after the easy first set. Ton of UE's and 0-2.
Federer's performance this year is an extreme outlier. You can't presume that others like Nadal and Djokovic are going to magically improve as they hit their mid 30s when a vast majority of players decline and decline rapidly at that age. That's what makes Federer the GOAT. He's doing things that other Tennis players can't.
Broke back.
Brilliant at the break point.
Barring injuries I think the prime(not peak) level of tennis players will increase significantly. We already have the signs - most guys at the top are 30ish and seeing the young guys - unlikely to change soon.
Even a guy like Wawrinka who was a journeyman in his supposed peak bloomed a lot later after he tuned up his game.
Djoko is a big question mark if he has gassed out or has some left in the tank, but I guess we will see that next year.
This is actually getting more fun.
So languid.
Fedratov.
Sorry
Fedratov.
Sorry
Nadal at 31 this year has had his best year in the last 2-3. Murray and Djoko are both a further year younger. Also these 3, other than when they're injured, are still fitter players than most on tour in game.
Yeah I agree Nadal and Fed have gotten lucky with the injuries to those two but that's the thing, Novak and Murray will be back, refreshed and injury free next season. These 4 even at 60% of their highest standards are enough to beat the rest.
If he gets his motivation back, he's going to be back challenging next year and I hope he does because no one wants to see tournaments like RG, Wimbledon and probably USO as well where there just has been very little quality.
That's only because we are dealing with 3 of the 4 great players in Tennis during this recent period. If for example, the likes of Sampras, Agassi, etc happened to be coming up in the past 5 years you can bet that it would've cut the Federer/Nadal/Djokovic success in half.
Younger players will always be better at Tennis - speed, agility, power, hormone levels, etc are all far superior with young players. The only thing that isn't is the mental game (in most instances at least).
Could be, but Sampras/Agassi/Nadal/Federer/Djokovic - they are once in a long while players. It's unrealistic to expect every 5 years a player like that to come out.
Younger players doesn't have the wear and tear true, but with poly strings, bigger rackets the gap isn't as it was like 20 years ago. Homogenizing the surfaces also made it easier for players to cover the court, but also balls and rackets still make the ball pop and adding the experience it's hard to have young players breaking in.
The problem I see today is like the WTA a decade ago(and on going) - you don't have versatile players anymore, or typical all courters. Most of the guys suck at the net and generally go there to shake hands. There's no point construction just mindless ball bashing. Rarely you see players mix it up and when they come up against a old Federer who has the ability to mix it up - slice, come at the net, mask his serve, solid ground game and net game, movement, point construction and abundance of experience - they naturally struggle.
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