Yeah that last set was fantastic entertainment.
Tennis 2017
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Yeah we are free to discuss anything. Hence why I can discuss that people boasting about bets is incredibly boring.
The kid simply can't keep his fingers out 
Is Roger really going to take another 6 months off or was he just joking?
Certainly so, he can beat anyone outside the Top 4 all day long, on the rare exception of Stanimal on his day, it's his losing H2H record against his main rivals notably peak Djokovic in recent years or he could have won #20 by now.
Not the best way to put it, but I mentioned in the other thread, his consistency is like no other, and that can't be knocked. His game is less vulnerable as he's a great server, but that's a skill in itself that any player would love to have.
Greatest of all. To come back and win two grand slams is remarkable.
During his time, he has mixed it with and beaten the likes of Sampras, Roddick, Phillipouses, Del Potro, Nadal, Djokovic, Murray & countless others who I can't list.
During his time, he has held the World No.1 position for the most time.
Put simply, he is the GOAT.
There is no debate. He is the GOAT. Anybody who knows anything about tennis will tell you this.
The bitterness of some here just makes this even sweeter. It must really hurt. Hopefully Federer can keep winning.
Fair enough but it also goes to show how small-minded and resentful some people can be. Cheers.
Ali is a strange one. He is the greatest sportsman of all time without being the best sportsman at his sport (that would be Sugar Ray). But his off the field influence is totally unmatched.
What a great guy he is. If he ever does a Tiger Woods I'll be devastated. Absolute gentleman.
And YOU my friend are the epitome of a Federer glory-hunting fan.
How many points are defending Murray and Nadal in the US? Can Fed really make it as No.1? That would be totally amazing.
Going down, Murray.
I feel a bit sorry for them really. In their hatred and bitterness they fail to appreciate one of the greatest sportsman of all time and all his finesses. It's like those Messi v Ronaldo fanboys. Why can't you just watch the sport and savour it?
Cilic NEVER surrendered a match in his entire career. 2:1 first set when he fell at the net he fecked up his knee. He burst to tears because he knew he has no chance.
If it was Djokovic, the match would end right there.
Murray 360, Nadal 180.
Still think I'd give Rafa a slight edge tbh, think I saw Federer will play Shanghai which might change things but Rafa's presumably heavier schedule should swing it in his favour (assuming it doesn't backfire on him).@Giggsy92 How do you feel now about race to No.1?
Nail on the head. I like Roger winning but I dont go into blind rage when his rivals win or try to belittle their achievements. Its just the mature thing to do.
Yep. Ali's stature is off the charts and will never be matched.
Federer would have battered both Nadal and Djokovic had they made it through in this tournament. The difference is that Federer still makes it through when he's not at his best.
Ali transcends sport in a way the likes of Fed never will (and I'm a big Fed fan). He's called the greatest for his whole life, not just boxing.
I hoped that they are going to defend more. It makes chances slim for Federer, unless both of them crash early and Federer wins it.
Man you must be really sad tonight as federer won. Anyways atleast the greatest of all made you some money.
Murray had a ridiculous 2nd half of last year though, he's almost guaranteed to lose his spot.
900 between Nadal and Fed, knowing how the former does usually in the indoor season and tour final you'd have to bet on Roger to catch up.
That was exactly my point (although you said it better). He isn't recognized as the best boxer of all time, but he is undoubtedly the greatest sportsman of all time (and the most famous one).
Makes no sense. He's saying there's no debate. Maybe he doesn't care for contrary opinions or is convinced of his own. But it has little to do with glory hunting. Illogical post.
Federer should be #1 post the US Open if he does better than Nadal on the American hardcourts.
I think Federer should play either Shanghai or Paris, not both. FWIW, I think he has appeared at Paris more regularly over the years than he has at Shanghai. He's definitely going to play the Tour Finals though; playing both of Shanghai and Paris before London might eradicate his freshness.
Federer would have battered both Nadal and Djokovic had they made it through in this tournament. The difference is that Federer still makes it through when he's not at his best.
Yea, I phrased the bolded part badly.
Your other point, though, is the point I am making. Nadal and Djokovic would've been battered but they've gone off. When they were at their best, they had Federer's number. Federer's slam win rate has a disproportionate swing either side of their peak.
I am not bitter about it like some on here are claiming. I don't watch tennis with any regularity except the slams and do not support any player.
There's little debate about Federer's status as GOAT. If there was prior to this year, its been obliterated with aplomb over the past six months.
If he's going to play one I imagine it'd be Shanghai, Paris isn't a great one for him although I guess the location is preferable. Personally expecting him to just play Cincinnati, USO, Basel and the Tour Finals, anything else would be a bonus.
Why cant we argue that they won too when he wasnt at his peak?
when Djokovic beats him, Federer is too old and the rest of the bunch are crap so it's only natural that he's dominating.
two years later, when even Djoko and Murray are shit, beating the same those players (who were called crap all the time) is amazing achievement.
so what it is in the end; is poor competition good for tennis or bad? because this is the worst I remember it.
two years later, when even Djoko and Murray are shit, beating the same those players (who were called crap all the time) is amazing achievement.
so what it is in the end; is poor competition good for tennis or bad? because this is the worst I remember it.
How do you know based on what he said? That's not any indication of how genuine or informed his support of Federer is.
It's not surprising coming from someone whose response to "why do you hate a fan base that comprises of people all over the world, the vast majority you don't know" was "well I actually know a lot of them"
How many do you know? 50? 100? Drop in the ocean whatever it is.
At least you bet smart, so it can give you some comfort in this challenging time for you.
Shame about the match, but I am still elated. The greatest Comeback in tennis history continues
Djokovic never had Federer's number apart from when the latter was past 30. That Federer made it to those finals and all is itself an accomplishment. Djokovic seems to be disintegrating before he's reached that phase of his career.
Nadal had a hold over Federer but interestingly Federer appears to have a hold over him since his backhand improvement. Wonder how it would have gone had Federer improved that aspect sooner. Also a lot of their matches early on came on clay and it clearly affected Federer mentally (aside from Nadal s game suiting him badly).
Peak is an interesting thing. When was Federer's peak? When he was losing to Djokovic during the Serbians peak, was his backhand genuinely as superb as it is now? Nope. I'm sure Federer wishes this improvement happened earlier but it's certainly happened and it has nothing to do with Djokovic.
Federer would have battered both Nadal and Djokovic had they made it through in this tournament. The difference is that Federer still makes it through when he's not at his best.
That's such an arrogant and extreme statement to make. So Federer would have battered Nadal whom he just narrowly won against in 5 sets in the Australian Open and Djokovic whom he've lost the past 4 grand slam finals? Granted, Djokovic isn't the same player he was but before he retired against Berdych, he seemed to have find his self-belief back and he's blitzed past all his opponents 3 sets to nil. Let's not forget that Federer also pussied out of the French Open because he probably know he has no chance of winning it.
at least Nadal is man enough to play on his weakest surface, respect to him. The fact that sunama said there's no debate 'yada yada Federer is the GOAT, best blah blah no one can touch him" is the point that I'm trying to make across. Perhaps glory-hunting isn't the right word but yes you get my drift. Birds of the same feather flock together I guess.See this is what I meant by the precious Federer fanbase. I wanted Federer to lose just to see their melt-down but unfortunately, they have come out of their closet and its no coincidence that we have Federer's fans from countries like India who only support the legends/giants of the sports.Man you must be really sad tonight as federer won. Anyways atleast the greatest of all made you some money.
The salty posts make me thirsty.
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