Surveillance Draft
- Thread starter Physiocrat
- Start date
Yeah I'd agree with that.
Been picked if memory serves me correctly.
Yeah, picked already. @mazhar13 @Enigma_87 can pick now
I think Tuppet still has some time on the clock and I'm heading off to bed. I've sent to anto our pick so tag him or mazhar when our turn comes.
He made an ineligible pick
Alright Djalminha then. Someone please update the list.
Emil Kostadinov.
Gio - 1. Messi 2. Cafu 3. Cannavaro 4. Gerrard 5. Makelele 6. Brian Laudrup 7. Prosinečki 8. Claudio Lopez 9. Filipe Luís 10. Naybet 11. Oscar Cordoba 12. Kluivert 13. Garcia Aspe
Sir Scholes - 1. Cristiano Ronaldo 2. Batistuta 3. Iniesta 4. Mauro Silva 5. Sagnol 6. Popescu 7. Terry 8. McManaman 9. Jarni 10. Abbondanzieri 11. Pirlo 12. Okocha 13. Solskjaer
OneNil - 1. Maldini 2. Ferdinand 3. Henry 4. Mendieta 5. Mascherano 6. S. Ramos 7. Marchisio 8. Caniggia 9. Maicon 10. Litmanen 11. Salas 12. Graeme Le Saux 13. V.Baia
DavidG - 1. Ronaldo 2. Godin 3. Bergkamp 4. Evra 5. Veron 6. Conte 7. Ledley King 8. Albelda 9. Mostovoi 10. Escobar 11. Ivanovic 12. Salihamidzic 13. Jardel
Raees/Invictus 1. Nesta 2. Davids 3. Scholes 4. Ribery 5. Chiellini 6. Essien 7. W Samuel 8. Jens Lehmann 9. L Guily 10. D Suker 11. Zamorano 12. JC Valeron 13. Ziege
Bleezy 1. Sammer 2. R. Carlos 3. D. Alves 4. Torres 5. Ballack 6. Del Piero 7. Petit 8. Sneijder 9. Couto 10.Falcao 11. Radebe 12. Zabaleta 13. Aimar
Skizzo/Annah 1. Ronaldinho 2. Lizarazu 3. Robben 4. G. Neville 5. Guardiola 6. Simeone 7. Gamarra 8. Baraja 9. Buffon 10. Miranda 11. Cavani 12. J. Heinrich 13. Cazorla
Mazhar/Enigma 1. Desailly 2. Zanetti 3. Giggs 4. Vidal 5. Shevchenko 6. Raúl 7. David Silva 8. Wörns 9. Pessotto 10. Klos 11. Mark van Bommel 12. P.Cocu 13. T. Linke 14. Djalminha
Tuppet 1. Zidane 2. Schweinsteiger 3. Stam 4. Ibrahimovic 5. Luis Enrique 6. Forlan 7. Panucci 8. Kompany 9. Cech 10. Ince 11. Leonardo 12. Bonucci 13. Francisco Arce 14. Emil Kostadinov
VivaJanuzaj/EAP 1. P Lahm 2. L. Suarez 3. Effenberg 4. Shearer 5. Overmars 6. Pires 7. Abidal 8. Hyypia 9. Senna 10. Sergi 11. Cambiasso 12. Pepe 13. Peruzzi 14. Valencia
Physiocrat 1. Thuram 2. Modric 3. T.Silva 4. van Nistelrooy 5. Sol Campbell 6. G. Signori 7. Serginho 8. Kanchelskis 9. O.Kahn 10. De Rossi 11. Riquelme 12. Geremi 13. Baines 14. Jorgenson
Downcast 1. R. Baggio 2. Kaka 3. Etoo 4. Ayala 5. Maniche 6. Xabi Alonso 7. Candela 8. F. De Boer 9. Camoranesi 10.Barthez 11. Bierhoff 12. C. Bravo 13. Brolin 14. Ferrer
P-Nut 1. R. Keane 2. Vieira 3. Drogba 4. Rui Costa 5. Puyol 6. Barzagli 7. Carrick 8. Ginola 9. Garay 10. Handanovic 11. Basler 12. Robinho 13. Gattuso 14. Carragher
Aldo/prath92 1. Totti 2. Rivaldo 3. Vidic 4. Hierro 5. P. Montero 6. Z. Boban 7. Deco 8. Ljungberg 9. Julio Cesar 10. Juan Pablo Sorin 11. Babbel 12. Klose 13. Sousa 14. Srna
Pat Mustard/Sjor Bepo 1. Redondo 2. Figo 3. A. Cole 4. Ferrara 5. Gascoigne 6. Villa 7. Petrescu 8. Boli 9. Larsson 10. Lloris 11. Tugay 12. Yaya Toure 13. Nani 14. Kuffour
Joga Bonito 1. Xavi 2. Nedved 3. Seedorf 4. Carvalho 5. Deschamps 6. Lucio 7. Benarrivo 8. Neuer 9. van Persie 10. Möller 11. Grosso 12. Park 13. Rooney 14. W.Brown
Sir Scholes - 1. Cristiano Ronaldo 2. Batistuta 3. Iniesta 4. Mauro Silva 5. Sagnol 6. Popescu 7. Terry 8. McManaman 9. Jarni 10. Abbondanzieri 11. Pirlo 12. Okocha 13. Solskjaer
OneNil - 1. Maldini 2. Ferdinand 3. Henry 4. Mendieta 5. Mascherano 6. S. Ramos 7. Marchisio 8. Caniggia 9. Maicon 10. Litmanen 11. Salas 12. Graeme Le Saux 13. V.Baia
DavidG - 1. Ronaldo 2. Godin 3. Bergkamp 4. Evra 5. Veron 6. Conte 7. Ledley King 8. Albelda 9. Mostovoi 10. Escobar 11. Ivanovic 12. Salihamidzic 13. Jardel
Raees/Invictus 1. Nesta 2. Davids 3. Scholes 4. Ribery 5. Chiellini 6. Essien 7. W Samuel 8. Jens Lehmann 9. L Guily 10. D Suker 11. Zamorano 12. JC Valeron 13. Ziege
Bleezy 1. Sammer 2. R. Carlos 3. D. Alves 4. Torres 5. Ballack 6. Del Piero 7. Petit 8. Sneijder 9. Couto 10.Falcao 11. Radebe 12. Zabaleta 13. Aimar
Skizzo/Annah 1. Ronaldinho 2. Lizarazu 3. Robben 4. G. Neville 5. Guardiola 6. Simeone 7. Gamarra 8. Baraja 9. Buffon 10. Miranda 11. Cavani 12. J. Heinrich 13. Cazorla
Mazhar/Enigma 1. Desailly 2. Zanetti 3. Giggs 4. Vidal 5. Shevchenko 6. Raúl 7. David Silva 8. Wörns 9. Pessotto 10. Klos 11. Mark van Bommel 12. P.Cocu 13. T. Linke 14. Djalminha
Tuppet 1. Zidane 2. Schweinsteiger 3. Stam 4. Ibrahimovic 5. Luis Enrique 6. Forlan 7. Panucci 8. Kompany 9. Cech 10. Ince 11. Leonardo 12. Bonucci 13. Francisco Arce 14. Emil Kostadinov
VivaJanuzaj/EAP 1. P Lahm 2. L. Suarez 3. Effenberg 4. Shearer 5. Overmars 6. Pires 7. Abidal 8. Hyypia 9. Senna 10. Sergi 11. Cambiasso 12. Pepe 13. Peruzzi 14. Valencia
Physiocrat 1. Thuram 2. Modric 3. T.Silva 4. van Nistelrooy 5. Sol Campbell 6. G. Signori 7. Serginho 8. Kanchelskis 9. O.Kahn 10. De Rossi 11. Riquelme 12. Geremi 13. Baines 14. Jorgenson
Downcast 1. R. Baggio 2. Kaka 3. Etoo 4. Ayala 5. Maniche 6. Xabi Alonso 7. Candela 8. F. De Boer 9. Camoranesi 10.Barthez 11. Bierhoff 12. C. Bravo 13. Brolin 14. Ferrer
P-Nut 1. R. Keane 2. Vieira 3. Drogba 4. Rui Costa 5. Puyol 6. Barzagli 7. Carrick 8. Ginola 9. Garay 10. Handanovic 11. Basler 12. Robinho 13. Gattuso 14. Carragher
Aldo/prath92 1. Totti 2. Rivaldo 3. Vidic 4. Hierro 5. P. Montero 6. Z. Boban 7. Deco 8. Ljungberg 9. Julio Cesar 10. Juan Pablo Sorin 11. Babbel 12. Klose 13. Sousa 14. Srna
Pat Mustard/Sjor Bepo 1. Redondo 2. Figo 3. A. Cole 4. Ferrara 5. Gascoigne 6. Villa 7. Petrescu 8. Boli 9. Larsson 10. Lloris 11. Tugay 12. Yaya Toure 13. Nani 14. Kuffour
Joga Bonito 1. Xavi 2. Nedved 3. Seedorf 4. Carvalho 5. Deschamps 6. Lucio 7. Benarrivo 8. Neuer 9. van Persie 10. Möller 11. Grosso 12. Park 13. Rooney 14. W.Brown
Gio - 1. Messi 2. Cafu 3. Cannavaro 4. Gerrard 5. Makelele 6. Brian Laudrup 7. Prosinečki 8. Claudio Lopez 9. Filipe Luís 10. Naybet 11. Oscar Cordoba 12. Kluivert 13. Garcia Aspe
Sir Scholes - 1. Cristiano Ronaldo 2. Batistuta 3. Iniesta 4. Mauro Silva 5. Sagnol 6. Popescu 7. Terry 8. McManaman 9. Jarni 10. Abbondanzieri 11. Pirlo 12. Okocha 13. Solskjaer
OneNil - 1. Maldini 2. Ferdinand 3. Henry 4. Mendieta 5. Mascherano 6. S. Ramos 7. Marchisio 8. Caniggia 9. Maicon 10. Litmanen 11. Salas 12. Graeme Le Saux 13. V.Baia
DavidG - 1. Ronaldo 2. Godin 3. Bergkamp 4. Evra 5. Veron 6. Conte 7. Ledley King 8. Albelda 9. Mostovoi 10. Escobar 11. Ivanovic 12. Salihamidzic 13. Jardel
Raees/Invictus 1. Nesta 2. Davids 3. Scholes 4. Ribery 5. Chiellini 6. Essien 7. W Samuel 8. Jens Lehmann 9. L Guily 10. D Suker 11. Zamorano 12. JC Valeron 13. Ziege
Bleezy 1. Sammer 2. R. Carlos 3. D. Alves 4. Torres 5. Ballack 6. Del Piero 7. Petit 8. Sneijder 9. Couto 10.Falcao 11. Radebe 12. Zabaleta 13. Aimar
Skizzo/Annah 1. Ronaldinho 2. Lizarazu 3. Robben 4. G. Neville 5. Guardiola 6. Simeone 7. Gamarra 8. Baraja 9. Buffon 10. Miranda 11. Cavani 12. J. Heinrich 13. Cazorla 14. Elber
Mazhar/Enigma 1. Desailly 2. Zanetti 3. Giggs 4. Vidal 5. Shevchenko 6. Raúl 7. David Silva 8. Wörns 9. Pessotto 10. Klos 11. Mark van Bommel 12. P.Cocu 13. T. Linke 14. Djalminha
Tuppet 1. Zidane 2. Schweinsteiger 3. Stam 4. Ibrahimovic 5. Luis Enrique 6. Forlan 7. Panucci 8. Kompany 9. Cech 10. Ince 11. Leonardo 12. Bonucci 13. Francisco Arce 14. Emil Kostadinov
VivaJanuzaj/EAP 1. P Lahm 2. L. Suarez 3. Effenberg 4. Shearer 5. Overmars 6. Pires 7. Abidal 8. Hyypia 9. Senna 10. Sergi 11. Cambiasso 12. Pepe 13. Peruzzi 14. Valencia
Physiocrat 1. Thuram 2. Modric 3. T.Silva 4. van Nistelrooy 5. Sol Campbell 6. G. Signori 7. Serginho 8. Kanchelskis 9. O.Kahn 10. De Rossi 11. Riquelme 12. Geremi 13. Baines 14. Jorgenson
Downcast 1. R. Baggio 2. Kaka 3. Etoo 4. Ayala 5. Maniche 6. Xabi Alonso 7. Candela 8. F. De Boer 9. Camoranesi 10.Barthez 11. Bierhoff 12. C. Bravo 13. Brolin 14. Ferrer
P-Nut 1. R. Keane 2. Vieira 3. Drogba 4. Rui Costa 5. Puyol 6. Barzagli 7. Carrick 8. Ginola 9. Garay 10. Handanovic 11. Basler 12. Robinho 13. Gattuso 14. Carragher
Aldo/prath92 1. Totti 2. Rivaldo 3. Vidic 4. Hierro 5. P. Montero 6. Z. Boban 7. Deco 8. Ljungberg 9. Julio Cesar 10. Juan Pablo Sorin 11. Babbel 12. Klose 13. Sousa 14. Srna
Pat Mustard/Sjor Bepo 1. Redondo 2. Figo 3. A. Cole 4. Ferrara 5. Gascoigne 6. Villa 7. Petrescu 8. Boli 9. Larsson 10. Lloris 11. Tugay 12. Yaya Toure 13. Nani 14. Kuffour
Joga Bonito 1. Xavi 2. Nedved 3. Seedorf 4. Carvalho 5. Deschamps 6. Lucio 7. Benarrivo 8. Neuer 9. van Persie 10. Möller 11. Grosso 12. Park 13. Rooney 14. W.Brown
@bleezy
Sir Scholes - 1. Cristiano Ronaldo 2. Batistuta 3. Iniesta 4. Mauro Silva 5. Sagnol 6. Popescu 7. Terry 8. McManaman 9. Jarni 10. Abbondanzieri 11. Pirlo 12. Okocha 13. Solskjaer
OneNil - 1. Maldini 2. Ferdinand 3. Henry 4. Mendieta 5. Mascherano 6. S. Ramos 7. Marchisio 8. Caniggia 9. Maicon 10. Litmanen 11. Salas 12. Graeme Le Saux 13. V.Baia
DavidG - 1. Ronaldo 2. Godin 3. Bergkamp 4. Evra 5. Veron 6. Conte 7. Ledley King 8. Albelda 9. Mostovoi 10. Escobar 11. Ivanovic 12. Salihamidzic 13. Jardel
Raees/Invictus 1. Nesta 2. Davids 3. Scholes 4. Ribery 5. Chiellini 6. Essien 7. W Samuel 8. Jens Lehmann 9. L Guily 10. D Suker 11. Zamorano 12. JC Valeron 13. Ziege
Bleezy 1. Sammer 2. R. Carlos 3. D. Alves 4. Torres 5. Ballack 6. Del Piero 7. Petit 8. Sneijder 9. Couto 10.Falcao 11. Radebe 12. Zabaleta 13. Aimar
Skizzo/Annah 1. Ronaldinho 2. Lizarazu 3. Robben 4. G. Neville 5. Guardiola 6. Simeone 7. Gamarra 8. Baraja 9. Buffon 10. Miranda 11. Cavani 12. J. Heinrich 13. Cazorla 14. Elber
Mazhar/Enigma 1. Desailly 2. Zanetti 3. Giggs 4. Vidal 5. Shevchenko 6. Raúl 7. David Silva 8. Wörns 9. Pessotto 10. Klos 11. Mark van Bommel 12. P.Cocu 13. T. Linke 14. Djalminha
Tuppet 1. Zidane 2. Schweinsteiger 3. Stam 4. Ibrahimovic 5. Luis Enrique 6. Forlan 7. Panucci 8. Kompany 9. Cech 10. Ince 11. Leonardo 12. Bonucci 13. Francisco Arce 14. Emil Kostadinov
VivaJanuzaj/EAP 1. P Lahm 2. L. Suarez 3. Effenberg 4. Shearer 5. Overmars 6. Pires 7. Abidal 8. Hyypia 9. Senna 10. Sergi 11. Cambiasso 12. Pepe 13. Peruzzi 14. Valencia
Physiocrat 1. Thuram 2. Modric 3. T.Silva 4. van Nistelrooy 5. Sol Campbell 6. G. Signori 7. Serginho 8. Kanchelskis 9. O.Kahn 10. De Rossi 11. Riquelme 12. Geremi 13. Baines 14. Jorgenson
Downcast 1. R. Baggio 2. Kaka 3. Etoo 4. Ayala 5. Maniche 6. Xabi Alonso 7. Candela 8. F. De Boer 9. Camoranesi 10.Barthez 11. Bierhoff 12. C. Bravo 13. Brolin 14. Ferrer
P-Nut 1. R. Keane 2. Vieira 3. Drogba 4. Rui Costa 5. Puyol 6. Barzagli 7. Carrick 8. Ginola 9. Garay 10. Handanovic 11. Basler 12. Robinho 13. Gattuso 14. Carragher
Aldo/prath92 1. Totti 2. Rivaldo 3. Vidic 4. Hierro 5. P. Montero 6. Z. Boban 7. Deco 8. Ljungberg 9. Julio Cesar 10. Juan Pablo Sorin 11. Babbel 12. Klose 13. Sousa 14. Srna
Pat Mustard/Sjor Bepo 1. Redondo 2. Figo 3. A. Cole 4. Ferrara 5. Gascoigne 6. Villa 7. Petrescu 8. Boli 9. Larsson 10. Lloris 11. Tugay 12. Yaya Toure 13. Nani 14. Kuffour
Joga Bonito 1. Xavi 2. Nedved 3. Seedorf 4. Carvalho 5. Deschamps 6. Lucio 7. Benarrivo 8. Neuer 9. van Persie 10. Möller 11. Grosso 12. Park 13. Rooney 14. W.Brown
@bleezy
Yeah he is a very dependable player very good with crosses. He should have moved to a better club (was linked with us under LvG and is still linked to Barca). But then again, loyalty isn't something to be discarded either I guess.
Darijo srna Croatian captain. Plays Right back and RW
Yeah but to be fair Maicon is an excellent RB. He was in our shortlist initially but Cesar blocked him out.
In terms of absolute peak I'd take Maicon ahead of Dani Alves. He was a force of nature.
Indeed. I really love Maicon, but for this draft, Maicon blocked several injury/reinforcement strategies for me while Srna blocks almost no one at all especially in case of reinforcements.
When I think about this draft, I'm actually surprised Srna wasn't taken much earlier.
When I think about this draft, I'm actually surprised Srna wasn't taken much earlier.
You have taken my central midfielder so I've decided to take your RB. Fair reward
*There is an African RB who could do the job for you or a South-American RB successul with his country in the last decade.
* This post is not a 'threat'
You have taken my central midfielder so I've decided to take your RB. Fair reward
There is an African RB who could do the job for you or a South-American RB successul with his country in the last decade.
* This post is not a 'threat'
destined to be drawn together now..Gio - 1. Messi 2. Cafu 3. Cannavaro 4. Gerrard 5. Makelele 6. Brian Laudrup 7. Prosinečki 8. Claudio Lopez 9. Filipe Luís 10. Naybet 11. Oscar Cordoba 12. Kluivert 13. Garcia Aspe
Sir Scholes - 1. Cristiano Ronaldo 2. Batistuta 3. Iniesta 4. Mauro Silva 5. Sagnol 6. Popescu 7. Terry 8. McManaman 9. Jarni 10. Abbondanzieri 11. Pirlo 12. Okocha 13. Solskjaer
OneNil - 1. Maldini 2. Ferdinand 3. Henry 4. Mendieta 5. Mascherano 6. S. Ramos 7. Marchisio 8. Caniggia 9. Maicon 10. Litmanen 11. Salas 12. Graeme Le Saux 13. V.Baia
DavidG - 1. Ronaldo 2. Godin 3. Bergkamp 4. Evra 5. Veron 6. Conte 7. Ledley King 8. Albelda 9. Mostovoi 10. Escobar 11. Ivanovic 12. Salihamidzic 13. Jardel
Raees/Invictus 1. Nesta 2. Davids 3. Scholes 4. Ribery 5. Chiellini 6. Essien 7. W Samuel 8. Jens Lehmann 9. L Guily 10. D Suker 11. Zamorano 12. JC Valeron 13. Ziege
Bleezy 1. Sammer 2. R. Carlos 3. D. Alves 4. Torres 5. Ballack 6. Del Piero 7. Petit 8. Sneijder 9. Couto 10.Falcao 11. Radebe 12. Zabaleta 13. Aimar 14. Friedel
Skizzo/Annah 1. Ronaldinho 2. Lizarazu 3. Robben 4. G. Neville 5. Guardiola 6. Simeone 7. Gamarra 8. Baraja 9. Buffon 10. Miranda 11. Cavani 12. J. Heinrich 13. Cazorla 14. Elber
Mazhar/Enigma 1. Desailly 2. Zanetti 3. Giggs 4. Vidal 5. Shevchenko 6. Raúl 7. David Silva 8. Wörns 9. Pessotto 10. Klos 11. Mark van Bommel 12. P.Cocu 13. T. Linke 14. Djalminha
Tuppet 1. Zidane 2. Schweinsteiger 3. Stam 4. Ibrahimovic 5. Luis Enrique 6. Forlan 7. Panucci 8. Kompany 9. Cech 10. Ince 11. Leonardo 12. Bonucci 13. Francisco Arce 14. Emil Kostadinov
VivaJanuzaj/EAP 1. P Lahm 2. L. Suarez 3. Effenberg 4. Shearer 5. Overmars 6. Pires 7. Abidal 8. Hyypia 9. Senna 10. Sergi 11. Cambiasso 12. Pepe 13. Peruzzi 14. Valencia
Physiocrat 1. Thuram 2. Modric 3. T.Silva 4. van Nistelrooy 5. Sol Campbell 6. G. Signori 7. Serginho 8. Kanchelskis 9. O.Kahn 10. De Rossi 11. Riquelme 12. Geremi 13. Baines 14. Jorgenson
Downcast 1. R. Baggio 2. Kaka 3. Etoo 4. Ayala 5. Maniche 6. Xabi Alonso 7. Candela 8. F. De Boer 9. Camoranesi 10.Barthez 11. Bierhoff 12. C. Bravo 13. Brolin 14. Ferrer
P-Nut 1. R. Keane 2. Vieira 3. Drogba 4. Rui Costa 5. Puyol 6. Barzagli 7. Carrick 8. Ginola 9. Garay 10. Handanovic 11. Basler 12. Robinho 13. Gattuso 14. Carragher
Aldo/prath92 1. Totti 2. Rivaldo 3. Vidic 4. Hierro 5. P. Montero 6. Z. Boban 7. Deco 8. Ljungberg 9. Julio Cesar 10. Juan Pablo Sorin 11. Babbel 12. Klose 13. Sousa 14. Srna
Pat Mustard/Sjor Bepo 1. Redondo 2. Figo 3. A. Cole 4. Ferrara 5. Gascoigne 6. Villa 7. Petrescu 8. Boli 9. Larsson 10. Lloris 11. Tugay 12. Yaya Toure 13. Nani 14. Kuffour
Joga Bonito 1. Xavi 2. Nedved 3. Seedorf 4. Carvalho 5. Deschamps 6. Lucio 7. Benarrivo 8. Neuer 9. van Persie10. Möller 11. Grosso 12. Park 13. Rooney 14. W.Brown
@Raees @Invictus
Sir Scholes - 1. Cristiano Ronaldo 2. Batistuta 3. Iniesta 4. Mauro Silva 5. Sagnol 6. Popescu 7. Terry 8. McManaman 9. Jarni 10. Abbondanzieri 11. Pirlo 12. Okocha 13. Solskjaer
OneNil - 1. Maldini 2. Ferdinand 3. Henry 4. Mendieta 5. Mascherano 6. S. Ramos 7. Marchisio 8. Caniggia 9. Maicon 10. Litmanen 11. Salas 12. Graeme Le Saux 13. V.Baia
DavidG - 1. Ronaldo 2. Godin 3. Bergkamp 4. Evra 5. Veron 6. Conte 7. Ledley King 8. Albelda 9. Mostovoi 10. Escobar 11. Ivanovic 12. Salihamidzic 13. Jardel
Raees/Invictus 1. Nesta 2. Davids 3. Scholes 4. Ribery 5. Chiellini 6. Essien 7. W Samuel 8. Jens Lehmann 9. L Guily 10. D Suker 11. Zamorano 12. JC Valeron 13. Ziege
Bleezy 1. Sammer 2. R. Carlos 3. D. Alves 4. Torres 5. Ballack 6. Del Piero 7. Petit 8. Sneijder 9. Couto 10.Falcao 11. Radebe 12. Zabaleta 13. Aimar 14. Friedel
Skizzo/Annah 1. Ronaldinho 2. Lizarazu 3. Robben 4. G. Neville 5. Guardiola 6. Simeone 7. Gamarra 8. Baraja 9. Buffon 10. Miranda 11. Cavani 12. J. Heinrich 13. Cazorla 14. Elber
Mazhar/Enigma 1. Desailly 2. Zanetti 3. Giggs 4. Vidal 5. Shevchenko 6. Raúl 7. David Silva 8. Wörns 9. Pessotto 10. Klos 11. Mark van Bommel 12. P.Cocu 13. T. Linke 14. Djalminha
Tuppet 1. Zidane 2. Schweinsteiger 3. Stam 4. Ibrahimovic 5. Luis Enrique 6. Forlan 7. Panucci 8. Kompany 9. Cech 10. Ince 11. Leonardo 12. Bonucci 13. Francisco Arce 14. Emil Kostadinov
VivaJanuzaj/EAP 1. P Lahm 2. L. Suarez 3. Effenberg 4. Shearer 5. Overmars 6. Pires 7. Abidal 8. Hyypia 9. Senna 10. Sergi 11. Cambiasso 12. Pepe 13. Peruzzi 14. Valencia
Physiocrat 1. Thuram 2. Modric 3. T.Silva 4. van Nistelrooy 5. Sol Campbell 6. G. Signori 7. Serginho 8. Kanchelskis 9. O.Kahn 10. De Rossi 11. Riquelme 12. Geremi 13. Baines 14. Jorgenson
Downcast 1. R. Baggio 2. Kaka 3. Etoo 4. Ayala 5. Maniche 6. Xabi Alonso 7. Candela 8. F. De Boer 9. Camoranesi 10.Barthez 11. Bierhoff 12. C. Bravo 13. Brolin 14. Ferrer
P-Nut 1. R. Keane 2. Vieira 3. Drogba 4. Rui Costa 5. Puyol 6. Barzagli 7. Carrick 8. Ginola 9. Garay 10. Handanovic 11. Basler 12. Robinho 13. Gattuso 14. Carragher
Aldo/prath92 1. Totti 2. Rivaldo 3. Vidic 4. Hierro 5. P. Montero 6. Z. Boban 7. Deco 8. Ljungberg 9. Julio Cesar 10. Juan Pablo Sorin 11. Babbel 12. Klose 13. Sousa 14. Srna
Pat Mustard/Sjor Bepo 1. Redondo 2. Figo 3. A. Cole 4. Ferrara 5. Gascoigne 6. Villa 7. Petrescu 8. Boli 9. Larsson 10. Lloris 11. Tugay 12. Yaya Toure 13. Nani 14. Kuffour
Joga Bonito 1. Xavi 2. Nedved 3. Seedorf 4. Carvalho 5. Deschamps 6. Lucio 7. Benarrivo 8. Neuer 9. van Persie10. Möller 11. Grosso 12. Park 13. Rooney 14. W.Brown
@Raees @Invictus
Gio - 1. Messi 2. Cafu 3. Cannavaro 4. Gerrard 5. Makelele 6. Brian Laudrup 7. Prosinečki 8. Claudio Lopez 9. Filipe Luís 10. Naybet 11. Oscar Cordoba 12. Kluivert 13. Garcia Aspe
Sir Scholes - 1. Cristiano Ronaldo 2. Batistuta 3. Iniesta 4. Mauro Silva 5. Sagnol 6. Popescu 7. Terry 8. McManaman 9. Jarni 10. Abbondanzieri 11. Pirlo 12. Okocha 13. Solskjaer
OneNil - 1. Maldini 2. Ferdinand 3. Henry 4. Mendieta 5. Mascherano 6. S. Ramos 7. Marchisio 8. Caniggia 9. Maicon 10. Litmanen 11. Salas 12. Graeme Le Saux 13. V.Baia
DavidG - 1. Ronaldo 2. Godin 3. Bergkamp 4. Evra 5. Veron 6. Conte 7. Ledley King 8. Albelda 9. Mostovoi 10. Escobar 11. Ivanovic 12. Salihamidzic 13. Jardel
Raees/Invictus 1. Nesta 2. Davids 3. Scholes 4. Ribéry 5. Chiellini 6. Essien 7. W Samuel 8. J Lehmann 9. Giuly 10. Šuker 11. Zamorano 12. Valerón 13. Ziege 14. Juanfran
Bleezy 1. Sammer 2. R. Carlos 3. D. Alves 4. Torres 5. Ballack 6. Del Piero 7. Petit 8. Sneijder 9. Couto 10.Falcao 11. Radebe 12. Zabaleta 13. Aimar 14. Friedel
Skizzo/Annah 1. Ronaldinho 2. Lizarazu 3. Robben 4. G. Neville 5. Guardiola 6. Simeone 7. Gamarra 8. Baraja 9. Buffon 10. Miranda 11. Cavani 12. J. Heinrich 13. Cazorla 14. Elber
Mazhar/Enigma 1. Desailly 2. Zanetti 3. Giggs 4. Vidal 5. Shevchenko 6. Raúl 7. David Silva 8. Wörns 9. Pessotto 10. Klos 11. Mark van Bommel 12. P.Cocu 13. T. Linke 14. Djalminha
Tuppet 1. Zidane 2. Schweinsteiger 3. Stam 4. Ibrahimovic 5. Luis Enrique 6. Forlan 7. Panucci 8. Kompany 9. Cech 10. Ince 11. Leonardo 12. Bonucci 13. Francisco Arce 14. Emil Kostadinov
VivaJanuzaj/EAP 1. P Lahm 2. L. Suarez 3. Effenberg 4. Shearer 5. Overmars 6. Pires 7. Abidal 8. Hyypia 9. Senna 10. Sergi 11. Cambiasso 12. Pepe 13. Peruzzi 14. Valencia
Physiocrat 1. Thuram 2. Modric 3. T.Silva 4. van Nistelrooy 5. Sol Campbell 6. G. Signori 7. Serginho 8. Kanchelskis 9. O.Kahn 10. De Rossi 11. Riquelme 12. Geremi 13. Baines 14. Jorgenson
Downcast 1. R. Baggio 2. Kaka 3. Etoo 4. Ayala 5. Maniche 6. Xabi Alonso 7. Candela 8. F. De Boer 9. Camoranesi 10.Barthez 11. Bierhoff 12. C. Bravo 13. Brolin 14. Ferrer
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@DavidG
Smart change
Nah Alves is a level above in the attacking phase and pretty equal defensively IMO. Maicon had some great seasons but I'd always take Dani Alves.
No way man, at least not at Maicon's peak. He was one of the best defenders of the treble winning Inter team. Alves even at his peak when not playing for Barca was easily humiliated.
Maicon was much better defensively, he was basically a demo version of Cafu.
Alves' array of attacking skills was very impressive though
Like Macon vs Bale the very next season after that treble winning season?
Maicon was great for Inter for couple of seasons. Flopped at City where he was over the hill. Alves won back to back EL titles and hit his peak at Barca which was longer than what Maicon had to offer.
I don't think he ever reached that 09/10 form before or after that season.
Yeah I was just comparing the peakLike Macon vs Bale the very next season after that treble winning season?
Maicon was great for Inter for couple of seasons. Flopped at City where he was over the hill. Alves won back to back EL titles and hit his peak at Barca which was longer than what Maicon had to offer.
I don't think he ever reached that 09/10 form before or after that season.
I disagree. Look at Barca's 10/11 and 11/12 seasons. They conceded less than 30 goals in both seasons in La liga, won CL and 5 other titles. Dani Alves was instrumental on that right wing in both campaigns.
Sure Barca had an impeccable midfield and dominated games but compare the defences. Inter in that treble winning season had Zanetti, Samuel and Lucio at the back shielded by Motta and Cambiasso.
Barca's defence other than Alves was young Pique, makeshift Mascherano, 32 years old Abidal, shielded by Busquets.
And all of them were better defensively than Alves.
I think Inter's tactics (Jose's effect) along with some great defenders and Cambiasso/Motta, elevated his game in that season. Never being able to replicate that form afterwards is also a testimony to that.
There was also puyol.
He was possibly the best 1v1 defender in the team though. The entire Inter team fell apart after that season not just Maicon. Funny you mention dependency on tactics, watch Copa America 2011 to see what happens to Alves when he's taken out of tiki taka.
Me and @Invictus consistently have differences when it comes to the Alves/Maicon debate.
Debatable
No way. Easily Zanetti was better, Lucio as well. I'd rate Samuel too, although playing in a lot different positions that require different skillset. As I said Zanetti contained a peak Messi on the left, whereas Bale tore him a new one twice a year later.
Tiki taka is not an advantage for Alves to showcase his defensive game, on the contrary, especially since that Barca side depended a lot on his attacking output. Yet he's much more likely to get exposed defensively in a system like that, than defending deep with two DM/CM's sitting and covering for his runs.
Alves was pretty solid albeit off his peak at Sevilla. Yes he struggled with Ronnie, but who didn't at the time?
He didn't play regularly and was struggling with knee injuries at the time.
I'd imagine so. What is your take on it?
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Not sure why you keep referring to that when I've been talking about his peak and he was obviously past it then.
2007-10 was his peak and he was the best RB in the world during that time.
I'm on your side put it that way but it does annoy me that Maicon v Bale is overstated.. the guy was not quite what he was by then and pushing 30.
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Well it was like half an year after the best season he had like ever?
I'd consider his peak at 08/10. I don't think he was as good in 07 as in 08 for example despite the Copa. Dani Alves always seems to be underrated in that aspect for me, which is odd given how instrumental he was in a high line attacking side and the space he covered on that right side.
His defensive contribution was minimal. He wasn't awful, like Bobby Carlos wasn't, for example, even if they both are having problems with their reputation, but it never was an outstanding feature in his game. He was the best in the world (by far) at what he did, and he was the most influential fullback in the past decade or so, but it was mostly because of his attacking skills, be it at Sevilla or at Barca. World class (maybe even GOAT level) attacking-wise + not a liability defensively
Maicon was a world-class defender at his peak. Better positionally, better 1 on 1, a complete package. That's why he was the first choice for that Brazil team when they both were on fire.