He is a good option indeed, don't get me wrong. I just have him more as a left wingback over anything else. Let's put it this way: at left wingback he could produce 8/10 games, everywhere else he would be a solid 5-6 (6 I'd say, but what many journos call a 5 I call a 6).
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He is a good option indeed, don't get me wrong. I just have him more as a left wingback over anything else. Let's put it this way: at left wingback he could produce 8/10 games, everywhere else he would be a solid 5-6 (6 I'd say, but what many journos call a 5 I call a 6).
If memory serves me correct Zanetti played on the left in the CL against none other than Messi and did pretty well
As a defensive fullback, yes, would you say he could own the left flank the way he owned the right flank? Not a chance.
I hope this doesn't mean you are even remotely considering doing that. It's nuts.
That's mainly because he's like a God among humans.If memory serves me correct Zanetti played on the left in the CL against none other than Messi and did pretty well
As a starting LB in a draft like this it doesn't make sense I agree. However depending on opposition and injury it's a very good option to have even as a defensive full back.
You sacrifice his attacking game but will have a solid LB if the duty calls. For example in the last draft if Dani Alves was sent off I'd had to put Maldini as a RB as there were no other options. He has played across the back (and started as a RB, but obviously not his best position) so that's always useful.
aye one of my favs as well at RB position. Really unique player.
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The sheer authority the man established on the pitch - try your luck against those pipes at the risk of getting shattered into the ground!
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Pfffft... we've all been there before. I even called the police in Spain looking for Weastie while at a brother-in-law's wedding.
"Hello, I'm a random chap from South America enquiring about the status of a search for a missing Englishman I know from a football blog on the internet" with the missus yapping in my ear.
^^^ 
what a beautiful memory is that.
what a beautiful memory is that.so the flow is gone again?
It's not gone, it's just glacial.
2 picks to finish this I'd love to be finished tonight but can't see it happening. I've currently got no one lined up for subs so will be completely winging it and hoping I don't get an injury.
I'm confused about this injury thing. Can there be a situation where one team gets 2 injury and another gets none?
I think so.
Because that never happens in real-life football.
It does but this isn't real life. It's a huge disadvantage through no fault of the person (I know 2 vs 0 is a long shot but still).
The best thing you can do is reinforce with 3 versatile players that cover multiple positions. In case of two injuries you can bring like for like replacements.
Agreed, it needs to be spelled out that draft games are not real life games. If your 2 key players are injured, it wouldn't matter how well you have drafted or whatever, you are not going to win. I didn't realize that one team can get 2 injuries and other none as well !! Especially in this draft which require so much effort going out to dumb luck would be ridiculous.
Say if I'm winning the vote, and then lose the players to injury, would i sub and change formation as though I'm protecting the lead? Or would the vote score not matter, and people continue to vote on which system they like better?
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Still there are limits. As tuppet said you can't expect the quality of team to remain the same if you end up having to replace say your first team player with a sub. If instead of Maldini you have to put a makeshift LB (who is probably someone like Rojo as in a CB who could fill in at LB) you can't expect the team quality to be same
To operate within the theme of injuries effecting an ongoing match I would operate as you would in a normal game. I would though ask you refrain from revealing the score explicitly. Something like I'm clearly ahead so am shutting up shop
yeah of course, but again it depends you have the same chance of having an injured player as the other team so that's a level field. The opposition might as well get two injuries to 0 for you.
Yeah! This is pure fantasy! Shaw got his leg broken, Moreno no red, it wasn't anyone's fault at United.
Shit happens.
It's a toughie because ultimately it's about how aware of the rules and mishaps the voters are. I'd personally end up voting considering the totality of the game, but have always been told I live in draftopia.
That's why I dodn't update the teamsheets on the op in the last draft. Scanvoters vote teamsheets and regulars/thread readers can find out about injuries and would be expected to make better assessments.
That said, the number of regulars complaining it's unfair and they will definitely lose makes you wonder...
No, probably not, that's why I picked all my subs while still not having a complete side. To avoid that as much as possible.
At the beginning I was even looking at getting an extra midfielder as early as R5 both for adaptability to rival and midfield awesomeness insurance.
The actual scoreline is out of bounds. The move is relative to the likely impact on the game and those voting should assess how THEY think the game would have been before and after and the 9verall resulting outcome. What OTHERS voted doesn't matter.
I agree. All I meant was that the manager could say I definitely would be two up by now so I'm shutting up shop
It is abit of a mad rule but I don't mind it. It was stated at the start of the draft so everyone has been aware throughout. People will have drafted better than others according to it.
I am struggling with it and will probably be banking on a maximum of 1 injury and it not being in a key position. If it is I'll do my best but if I lose so be it.
I am struggling with it and will probably be banking on a maximum of 1 injury and it not being in a key position. If it is I'll do my best but if I lose so be it.
Yep that's something you can do in the drafting process. Even with three subs you still can have 4-5 versatile players at the very minimum in your first 11 that can swap positions and be close to their natural game.
Worst case you can change formation and still fit your best players in a balanced team if you know in advance.
Yeah, that sort of line of argument, although it never worked all that well when making subs to close out the game.
That's why I wouldn't update the OP.
I've gone a step further, if I have both a defender and midfielder injured I have to finish the game with 10. Can't bring on both the midfield and defence subs and RVP is blocked by RVN.
All for reinforcement flexibility, which has a greater chance of being relevant.
Exactly! Everyone had 14 picks to make sure they can navigate the events. If your team can't possibly survive the loss of a key player, well... you've done something wrong.
The OP will never be updated so scan voters base their vote based on the starting line-up. I will though threadmark changes.
Yeah there is no way I'm going to be able to make 2 subs unless it falls perfectly on 2 out of 3 players being injured.