Surveillance Draft

@Downcast

There's no injuries before R1. They will only occur during matches but if you're injured in Round 1 you're injured in the Quarters but will be available for the Semis.
 
antohan said:
There's my ball-playing defender. He is the one I was wondering about earlier as most had completed their defences. Thought Pat might have gone for him and otherwise he would be a sub.

I reckon he is better than many of those picked to be starters, or have I been watching the wrong player?
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That one game for Inter in 2005 :( :(
 
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We pick CL winner Jörg Heinrich from the great Dortmund side of 94-97.

"The best thing about him is that he can play almost everywhere. Sweeper, left wing-back, right wing-back, defensive midfielder,
He scored quite a lot of goals even when he was a defensive midfielder in Dortmund last season."

Gio - 1. Messi 2. Cafu 3. Cannavaro 4. Gerrard 5. Makelele 6. Brian Laudrup 7. Prosinečki 8. Claudio Lopez 9. Filipe Luís 10. Naybet 11. Oscar Cordoba

Sir Scholes - 1. Cristiano Ronaldo 2. Batistuta 3. Iniesta 4. Mauro Silva 5. Sagnol 6. Popescu 7. Terry 8. McManaman 9. Jarni 10. Abbondanzieri 11. Pirlo

OneNil - 1. Maldini 2. Ferdinand 3. Henry 4. Mendieta 5. Mascherano 6. S. Ramos 7. Marchisio 8. Caniggia 9. Maicon 10. Litmanen 11. Salas

DavidG - 1. Ronaldo 2. Godin 3. Bergkamp 4. Evra 5. Veron 6. Conte 7. Ledley King 8. Albelda 9. Mostovoi 10. Escobar 11. Ivanovic

Raees/Invictus 1. Nesta 2. Davids 3. Scholes 4. Ribery 5. Chiellini 6. Essien 7. W Samuel 8. Jens Lehmann 9. L Guily 10. D Suker 11. Zamorano

Bleezy 1. Sammer 2. R. Carlos 3. D. Alves 4. Torres 5. Ballack 6. Del Piero 7. Petit 8. Sneijder 9. Couto 10. Falcao 11. Radebe

Skizzo/Annah 1. Ronaldinho 2. Lizarazu 3. Robben 4. G. Neville 5. Guardiola 6. Simeone 7. Gamarra 8. Baraja 9. Buffon 10. Miranda 11. Cavani 12. J. Heinrich

Mazhar/Enigma 1. Desailly 2. Zanetti 3. Giggs 4. Vidal 5. Shevchenko 6. Raúl 7. David Silva 8. Wörns 9. Pessotto 10. Klos 11. Mark van Bommel 12. Busquets

Tuppet 1. Zidane 2. Schweinsteiger 3. Stam 4. Ibrahimovic 5. Luis Enrique 6. Forlan 7. Panucci 8. Kompany 9. Cech 10. Ince 11. Leonardo 12. Bonucci

VivaJanuzaj/EAP 1. P Lahm 2. L. Suarez 3. Effenberg 4. Shearer 5. Overmars 6. Pires 7. Abidal 8. Hyypia 9. Senna 10. Sergi 11. Cambiasso 12. Pepe

Physiocrat 1. Thuram 2. Modric 3. T.Silva 4. van Nistelrooy 5. Sol Campbell 6. G. Signori 7. Serginho 8. Kanchelskis 9. O.Kahn 10. De Rossi 11. Riquelme 12. Geremi

Downcast 1. R. Baggio 2. Kaka 3. Etoo 4. Ayala 5. Maniche 6. Xabi Alonso 7. Candela 8. F. De Boer 9. Camoranesi 10.Barthez 11. Bierhoff 12. C. Bravo

P-Nut 1. R. Keane 2. Vieira 3. Drogba 4. Rui Costa 5. Puyol 6. Barzagli 7. Carrick 8. Ginola 9. Garay 10. Handanovic 11. Basler 12. Robinho

Aldo/prath92 1. Totti 2. Rivaldo 3. Vidic 4. Hierro 5. P. Montero 6. Z. Boban 7. Deco 8. Ljunberg 9. Julio Cesar 10. Juan Pablo Sorin 11. Babbel 12. Klose

Pat Mustard/Sjor Bepo 1. Redondo 2. Figo 3. A. Cole 4. Ferrara 5. Gascoigne 6. Villa 7. Petrescu 8. Boli 9. Larsson 10. Lloris 11. Tugay 12. Yaya Toure

Joga Bonito 1. Xavi 2. Nedved 3. Seedorf 4. Carvalho 5. Deschamps 6. Lucio 7. Benarrivo 8. Neuer 9. van Persie 10. Möller 11. Grosso 12. Park

@bleezy
 
Aldo said:
No that's the default feeling you are supposed to get everytime you pick a player in a draft. :D
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Too true :lol: I'm just a bit baffled I have got all my first choices since turn 3 or so. It's only Luis Enrique as a hiccup, but I hadn't even settled on including him as he was too good to last and blocked too much of the depth in backup options to bring him forward. He was lingering as the player I wanted, could only really look into if Moller got picked, and by then would be long gone. Probably a good thing that @Tuppet put me out of my misery.

Dunno about who other starters are but I ain't trading Hierro for this guy.
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Of course not. I would have very happily picked Hierro, but had my eyes on McManaman and when I looked at the R3 possible reinforcement options Thiago Silva stood out so chose to ride that role hard instead.

I usually try to stay away from this Juve team of the past 4-5 years and the Inter team before that. Ever since the scandal the league has been a joke and it's incredibly tough to judge some of the players.
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To be honest, I only catch 4-5 of their league games every year, plus CL games (typically post first round) so there's every chance I had missed some fundamental flaw. But I haven't formed an opinion of him based on battering small Serie A sides, it has typically been very solid and impressive performances in more evenly matched games.
 
Aldo said:
Or we can give him an option to swap one player given he did us a favour of taking over a team and the scouser can feck off. :)
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Agree with that. He has already complained his new manager has emptied his locker and sent him to train with the reserves. He says he much prefers his shadow self and teammates.

But then, this is a guy who was happy to play for Liverpool and City... not sure I take that as a compliment.
 
Gio - 1. Messi 2. Cafu 3. Cannavaro 4. Gerrard 5. Makelele 6. Brian Laudrup 7. Prosinečki 8. Claudio Lopez 9. Filipe Luís 10. Naybet 11. Oscar Cordoba

Sir Scholes - 1. Cristiano Ronaldo 2. Batistuta 3. Iniesta 4. Mauro Silva 5. Sagnol 6. Popescu 7. Terry 8. McManaman 9. Jarni 10. Abbondanzieri 11. Pirlo

OneNil - 1. Maldini 2. Ferdinand 3. Henry 4. Mendieta 5. Mascherano 6. S. Ramos 7. Marchisio 8. Caniggia 9. Maicon 10. Litmanen 11. Salas

DavidG - 1. Ronaldo 2. Godin 3. Bergkamp 4. Evra 5. Veron 6. Conte 7. Ledley King 8. Albelda 9. Mostovoi 10. Escobar 11. Ivanovic

Raees/Invictus 1. Nesta 2. Davids 3. Scholes 4. Ribery 5. Chiellini 6. Essien 7. W Samuel 8. Jens Lehmann 9. L Guily 10. D Suker 11. Zamorano

Bleezy 1. Sammer 2. R. Carlos 3. D. Alves 4. Torres 5. Ballack 6. Del Piero 7. Petit 8. Sneijder 9. Couto 10. Falcao 11. Radebe

Skizzo/Annah 1. Ronaldinho 2. Lizarazu 3. Robben 4. G. Neville 5. Guardiola 6. Simeone 7. Gamarra 8. Baraja 9. Buffon 10. Miranda 11. Cavani 12. J. Heinrich

Mazhar/Enigma 1. Desailly 2. Zanetti 3. Giggs 4. Vidal 5. Shevchenko 6. Raúl 7. David Silva 8. Wörns 9. Pessotto 10. Klos 11. Mark van Bommel 12. P.Cocu

Tuppet 1. Zidane 2. Schweinsteiger 3. Stam 4. Ibrahimovic 5. Luis Enrique 6. Forlan 7. Panucci 8. Kompany 9. Cech 10. Ince 11. Leonardo 12. Bonucci

VivaJanuzaj/EAP 1. P Lahm 2. L. Suarez 3. Effenberg 4. Shearer 5. Overmars 6. Pires 7. Abidal 8. Hyypia 9. Senna 10. Sergi 11. Cambiasso 12. Pepe

Physiocrat 1. Thuram 2. Modric 3. T.Silva 4. van Nistelrooy 5. Sol Campbell 6. G. Signori 7. Serginho 8. Kanchelskis 9. O.Kahn 10. De Rossi 11. Riquelme 12. Geremi

Downcast 1. R. Baggio 2. Kaka 3. Etoo 4. Ayala 5. Maniche 6. Xabi Alonso 7. Candela 8. F. De Boer 9. Camoranesi 10.Barthez 11. Bierhoff 12. C. Bravo

P-Nut 1. R. Keane 2. Vieira 3. Drogba 4. Rui Costa 5. Puyol 6. Barzagli 7. Carrick 8. Ginola 9. Garay 10. Handanovic 11. Basler 12. Robinho

Aldo/prath92 1. Totti 2. Rivaldo 3. Vidic 4. Hierro 5. P. Montero 6. Z. Boban 7. Deco 8. Ljunberg 9. Julio Cesar 10. Juan Pablo Sorin 11. Babbel 12. Klose

Pat Mustard/Sjor Bepo 1. Redondo 2. Figo 3. A. Cole 4. Ferrara 5. Gascoigne 6. Villa 7. Petrescu 8. Boli 9. Larsson 10. Lloris 11. Tugay 12. Yaya Toure

Joga Bonito 1. Xavi 2. Nedved 3. Seedorf 4. Carvalho 5. Deschamps 6. Lucio 7. Benarrivo 8. Neuer 9. van Persie 10. Möller 11. Grosso 12. Park

@bleezy use this list
 
Downcast said:
The big day has arrived ;) There is also another impressive player on the air (much taller) still unpicked.
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I think I know who you are on about. Him and Bierhoff with two good crossers out wide would beat Messi any day. ;)
 
Annahnomoss said:
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We pick CL winner Jörg Heinrich from the great Dortmund side of 94-97.

"The best thing about him is that he can play almost everywhere. Sweeper, left wing-back, right wing-back, defensive midfielder,
He scored quite a lot of goals even when he was a defensive midfielder in Dortmund last season."
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Is that a quote from a CM2 player?
 
antohan said:
The last time I changed my plans was after Mauro Silva got picked. I had a squad in mind then and so far so good with two picks to go. I only changed order in the last round realising my subs were in more danger than my starters.

I've no idea how that is even possible with some of them, such very very obvious picks which work brilliantly with the mechanics of this.

Or maybe I've lost the plot?
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I usually always list options by positions and use that to judge on the next picks and whichever comes shorter (and also depending on the quality) that's the next pick.

However there are sometimes issues like the last one(just realized I've included some players that are under the 87 DoB age) which was Busquets for example. :D
 
antohan said:
Part of the price to pay for van Nistelrooy. Top 10 of the resulting blocks I noticed and cursed.
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aye, surprised no one picked him so far - he's pretty versatile and complete midfielder.

Him or Busquets were really enticing choices (Busquets for blocking only Barca and Spanish players most of them already picked). After realizing the latter is outside the DoB cut it was an easy choice. Doesn't block anybody for us as well at this point(apart from MvB of course).
 
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Part of the price to pay for van Nistelrooy. Top 10 of the resulting blocks I noticed and cursed.
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Yep, cracking pick at this stage especially given his versatility. Rivaldo blocked him for us, else you know that I never overlook him.

What an incredibly underrated chap. Even those who rate him mainly remember what he did for that national team and Barca but even for PSV he was immense, in that CL run where they reached the semi and almost knocked out THAT Milan team, with him being amazing against THAT midfield. I was rooting for PSV all that while, was sick of Milan being so unbeatable in Europe, only for it to be crushed by a late second leg goal. :(
 
Enigma_87 said:
I usually always list options by positions and use that to judge on the next picks and whichever comes shorter (and also depending on the quality) that's the next pick.
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Oh, don't get me wrong, I have had to rearrange the picking order. A couple of turns ago in particular when I realised my ideal subs were at greater risk than my first team options. The point was I have picked exactly the players I set out to pick in turn 3 (i.e. top of each of those position piles) and that's not how this should work. No fecking drama.

Is it me or the mechanics sending people in different directions? That's what I'm wondering.

BTW, I have picked all three subs already with two picks to go :lol: That injury rule clearly works, even if they never happen.
 
antohan said:
Oh, don't get me wrong, I have had to rearrange the picking order. A couple of turns ago in particular when I realised my ideal subs were at greater risk than my first team options. The point was I have picked exactly the players I set out to pick in turn 3 (i.e. top of each of those position piles) and that's not how this should work. No fecking drama.

Is it me or the mechanics sending people in different directions? That's what I'm wondering.

BTW, I have picked all three subs already with two picks to go :lol: That injury rule clearly works, even if they never happen.
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Yeah in formats like these is easier to pick in advance IMO as you pretty much expect who can others pick and who they are blocking so you can delay a pick for someone else. For example we delayed Raul, Sheva and MvB since most had already strikers or couldn't pick them in the middle of the draft due to blocks.

Of course that can backfire if EAP/Viva pick them without realizing they block couple of their players. :D
 
Aldo said:
People can still pick subs even if they are blocked by the first team. :p
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I know, that's why I brought forward RVP. Different logic to Joga's obviously. For him he is a starter, for me he is the ideal RVN backup: quality and a good fit to the setup, and both block pretty much the same pool of Dutch and United players (i.e. the ones I care about).

I suppose there's two ways to look at it:

1) get a sub who blocks different players so when reinforcing you can adjust. I don't care for that because I'm committed to Nedved-RVN.

2) get a sub who largely blocks the same pool so that you aren't introducing new constraints to the squad.

I've gone with 2, even went with subs that block each other despite the -minimal- danger of double injuries. But I will have most top countries and clubs wide open for reinforcements really.
 
Enigma_87 said:
Yeah in formats like these is easier to pick in advance IMO as you pretty much expect who can others pick and who they are blocking so you can delay a pick for someone else. For example we delayed Raul, Sheva and MvB since most had already strikers or couldn't pick them in the middle of the draft due to blocks.

Of course that can backfire if EAP/Viva pick them without realizing they block couple of their players. :D
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:lol: Separated at birth NOT
 
Aldo said:
Yep, cracking pick at this stage especially given his versatility. Rivaldo blocked him for us, else you know that I never overlook him.

What an incredibly underrated chap. Even those who rate him mainly remember what he did for that national team and Barca but even for PSV he was immense, in that CL run where they reached the semi and almost knocked out THAT Milan team, with him being amazing against THAT midfield. I was rooting for PSV all that while, was sick of Milan being so unbeatable in Europe, only for it to be crushed by a late second leg goal. :(
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The thing is most would have seen a lot more of him at Barca. He was excellent, but in more restrained philosophical roles and there was always the comparisons with previous Barca midfield setups (high standards).

At PSV he was allowed, and they needed him in, beast mode. And yes, he was a boss.
 
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Gio - 1. Messi 2. Cafu 3. Cannavaro 4. Gerrard 5. Makelele 6. Brian Laudrup 7. Prosinečki 8. Claudio Lopez 9. Filipe Luís 10. Naybet 11. Oscar Cordoba

Sir Scholes - 1. Cristiano Ronaldo 2. Batistuta 3. Iniesta 4. Mauro Silva 5. Sagnol 6. Popescu 7. Terry 8. McManaman 9. Jarni 10. Abbondanzieri 11. Pirlo

OneNil - 1. Maldini 2. Ferdinand 3. Henry 4. Mendieta 5. Mascherano 6. S. Ramos 7. Marchisio 8. Caniggia 9. Maicon 10. Litmanen 11. Salas

DavidG - 1. Ronaldo 2. Godin 3. Bergkamp 4. Evra 5. Veron 6. Conte 7. Ledley King 8. Albelda 9. Mostovoi 10. Escobar 11. Ivanovic

Raees/Invictus 1. Nesta 2. Davids 3. Scholes 4. Ribery 5. Chiellini 6. Essien 7. W Samuel 8. Jens Lehmann 9. L Guily 10. D Suker 11. Zamorano

Bleezy 1. Sammer 2. R. Carlos 3. D. Alves 4. Torres 5. Ballack 6. Del Piero 7. Petit 8. Sneijder 9. Couto 10. Falcao 11. Radebe 12. Zabaleta

Skizzo/Annah 1. Ronaldinho 2. Lizarazu 3. Robben 4. G. Neville 5. Guardiola 6. Simeone 7. Gamarra 8. Baraja 9. Buffon 10. Miranda 11. Cavani 12. J. Heinrich

Mazhar/Enigma 1. Desailly 2. Zanetti 3. Giggs 4. Vidal 5. Shevchenko 6. Raúl 7. David Silva 8. Wörns 9. Pessotto 10. Klos 11. Mark van Bommel 12. P.Cocu

Tuppet 1. Zidane 2. Schweinsteiger 3. Stam 4. Ibrahimovic 5. Luis Enrique 6. Forlan 7. Panucci 8. Kompany 9. Cech 10. Ince 11. Leonardo 12. Bonucci

VivaJanuzaj/EAP 1. P Lahm 2. L. Suarez 3. Effenberg 4. Shearer 5. Overmars 6. Pires 7. Abidal 8. Hyypia 9. Senna 10. Sergi 11. Cambiasso 12. Pepe

Physiocrat 1. Thuram 2. Modric 3. T.Silva 4. van Nistelrooy 5. Sol Campbell 6. G. Signori 7. Serginho 8. Kanchelskis 9. O.Kahn 10. De Rossi 11. Riquelme 12. Geremi

Downcast 1. R. Baggio 2. Kaka 3. Etoo 4. Ayala 5. Maniche 6. Xabi Alonso 7. Candela 8. F. De Boer 9. Camoranesi 10.Barthez 11. Bierhoff 12. C. Bravo

P-Nut 1. R. Keane 2. Vieira 3. Drogba 4. Rui Costa 5. Puyol 6. Barzagli 7. Carrick 8. Ginola 9. Garay 10. Handanovic 11. Basler 12. Robinho

Aldo/prath92 1. Totti 2. Rivaldo 3. Vidic 4. Hierro 5. P. Montero 6. Z. Boban 7. Deco 8. Ljunberg 9. Julio Cesar 10. Juan Pablo Sorin 11. Babbel 12. Klose

Pat Mustard/Sjor Bepo 1. Redondo 2. Figo 3. A. Cole 4. Ferrara 5. Gascoigne 6. Villa 7. Petrescu 8. Boli 9. Larsson 10. Lloris 11. Tugay 12. Yaya Toure

Joga Bonito 1. Xavi 2. Nedved 3. Seedorf 4. Carvalho 5. Deschamps 6. Lucio 7. Benarrivo 8. Neuer 9. van Persie 10. Möller 11. Grosso 12. Park

@Raees @Invictus
 
antohan said:
Is that a quote from a CM2 player?
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15 days ago on French TV, Guy Roux (former coach of A.J. Auxerre that played against Dortmund in the 90s) was asked about the 3-5-2 system and answered Dortmund was fantastic and he was particularly impressed by Heinrich who owned all the left flank

More than 60 goals for a defensive player, not so bad.
 
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Downcast said:
15 days ago on French TV, Guy Roux (former coach of A.J. Auxerre that played against Dortmund in the 90s) was asked about the 3-5-2 system and answered Dortmund was fantastic and he was particularly impressed by Heinrich who owned all the left flank

More than 60 goals for a defensive player, not so bad.
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I was joking. He did own that left flank, very impressive.

Edit: but you have Candela, is he meant to be a sub for multiple positions?
 
Gio - 1. Messi 2. Cafu 3. Cannavaro 4. Gerrard 5. Makelele 6. Brian Laudrup 7. Prosinečki 8. Claudio Lopez 9. Filipe Luís 10. Naybet 11. Oscar Cordoba

Sir Scholes - 1. Cristiano Ronaldo 2. Batistuta 3. Iniesta 4. Mauro Silva 5. Sagnol 6. Popescu 7. Terry 8. McManaman 9. Jarni 10. Abbondanzieri 11. Pirlo

OneNil - 1. Maldini 2. Ferdinand 3. Henry 4. Mendieta 5. Mascherano 6. S. Ramos 7. Marchisio 8. Caniggia 9. Maicon 10. Litmanen 11. Salas

DavidG - 1. Ronaldo 2. Godin 3. Bergkamp 4. Evra 5. Veron 6. Conte 7. Ledley King 8. Albelda 9. Mostovoi 10. Escobar 11. Ivanovic

Raees/Invictus 1. Nesta 2. Davids 3. Scholes 4. Ribery 5. Chiellini 6. Essien 7. W Samuel 8. Jens Lehmann 9. L Guily 10. D Suker 11. Zamorano 12. JC Valeron

Bleezy 1. Sammer 2. R. Carlos 3. D. Alves 4. Torres 5. Ballack 6. Del Piero 7. Petit 8. Sneijder 9. Couto 10. Falcao 11. Radebe 12. Zabaleta

Skizzo/Annah 1. Ronaldinho 2. Lizarazu 3. Robben 4. G. Neville 5. Guardiola 6. Simeone 7. Gamarra 8. Baraja 9. Buffon 10. Miranda 11. Cavani 12. J. Heinrich

Mazhar/Enigma 1. Desailly 2. Zanetti 3. Giggs 4. Vidal 5. Shevchenko 6. Raúl 7. David Silva 8. Wörns 9. Pessotto 10. Klos 11. Mark van Bommel 12. P.Cocu

Tuppet 1. Zidane 2. Schweinsteiger 3. Stam 4. Ibrahimovic 5. Luis Enrique 6. Forlan 7. Panucci 8. Kompany 9. Cech 10. Ince 11. Leonardo 12. Bonucci

VivaJanuzaj/EAP 1. P Lahm 2. L. Suarez 3. Effenberg 4. Shearer 5. Overmars 6. Pires 7. Abidal 8. Hyypia 9. Senna 10. Sergi 11. Cambiasso 12. Pepe

Physiocrat 1. Thuram 2. Modric 3. T.Silva 4. van Nistelrooy 5. Sol Campbell 6. G. Signori 7. Serginho 8. Kanchelskis 9. O.Kahn 10. De Rossi 11. Riquelme 12. Geremi

Downcast 1. R. Baggio 2. Kaka 3. Etoo 4. Ayala 5. Maniche 6. Xabi Alonso 7. Candela 8. F. De Boer 9. Camoranesi 10.Barthez 11. Bierhoff 12. C. Bravo

P-Nut 1. R. Keane 2. Vieira 3. Drogba 4. Rui Costa 5. Puyol 6. Barzagli 7. Carrick 8. Ginola 9. Garay 10. Handanovic 11. Basler 12. Robinho

Aldo/prath92 1. Totti 2. Rivaldo 3. Vidic 4. Hierro 5. P. Montero 6. Z. Boban 7. Deco 8. Ljunberg 9. Julio Cesar 10. Juan Pablo Sorin 11. Babbel 12. Klose

Pat Mustard/Sjor Bepo 1. Redondo 2. Figo 3. A. Cole 4. Ferrara 5. Gascoigne 6. Villa 7. Petrescu 8. Boli 9. Larsson 10. Lloris 11. Tugay 12. Yaya Toure

Joga Bonito 1. Xavi 2. Nedved 3. Seedorf 4. Carvalho 5. Deschamps 6. Lucio 7. Benarrivo 8. Neuer 9. van Persie 10. Möller 11. Grosso 12. Park

@DavidG
 
antohan said:
There's my ball-playing defender. He is the one I was wondering about earlier as most had completed their defences. Thought Pat might have gone for him and otherwise he would be a sub.

I reckon he is better than many of those picked to be starters, or have I been watching the wrong player?
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We didn't really consider him much. It was basically a straight choice between Naybet and Boli for me, and Boli won out because I wanted a fast, powerful foil for Ferrara. Sjor had his heart set on Tugay at that stage and I was keen too which made it even more important that we had enough powerful, aggressive bastards elsewhere. I wasn't too worried about getting a first-rate ball-player for that second CB role as Ferrara, Petrescu and Cashley are all good in possession and our midfield will be excellent on the ball.

I don't think Boli has ever featured in a draft before either and I get a kick out of introducing new or rarely featured players, at least until the match thread begins and they're treated like lepers :D.
 
Gio - 1. Messi 2. Cafu 3. Cannavaro 4. Gerrard 5. Makelele 6. Brian Laudrup 7. Prosinečki 8. Claudio Lopez 9. Filipe Luís 10. Naybet 11. Oscar Cordoba

Sir Scholes - 1. Cristiano Ronaldo 2. Batistuta 3. Iniesta 4. Mauro Silva 5. Sagnol 6. Popescu 7. Terry 8. McManaman 9. Jarni 10. Abbondanzieri 11. Pirlo

OneNil - 1. Maldini 2. Ferdinand 3. Henry 4. Mendieta 5. Mascherano 6. S. Ramos 7. Marchisio 8. Caniggia 9. Maicon 10. Litmanen 11. Salas

DavidG - 1. Ronaldo 2. Godin 3. Bergkamp 4. Evra 5. Veron 6. Conte 7. Ledley King 8. Albelda 9. Mostovoi 10. Escobar 11. Ivanovic 12. Salihamidzic

Raees/Invictus 1. Nesta 2. Davids 3. Scholes 4. Ribery 5. Chiellini 6. Essien 7. W Samuel 8. Jens Lehmann 9. L Guily 10. D Suker 11. Zamorano 12. JC Valeron

Bleezy 1. Sammer 2. R. Carlos 3. D. Alves 4. Torres 5. Ballack 6. Del Piero 7. Petit 8. Sneijder 9. Couto 10. Falcao 11. Radebe 12. Zabaleta

Skizzo/Annah 1. Ronaldinho 2. Lizarazu 3. Robben 4. G. Neville 5. Guardiola 6. Simeone 7. Gamarra 8. Baraja 9. Buffon 10. Miranda 11. Cavani 12. J. Heinrich

Mazhar/Enigma 1. Desailly 2. Zanetti 3. Giggs 4. Vidal 5. Shevchenko 6. Raúl 7. David Silva 8. Wörns 9. Pessotto 10. Klos 11. Mark van Bommel 12. P.Cocu

Tuppet 1. Zidane 2. Schweinsteiger 3. Stam 4. Ibrahimovic 5. Luis Enrique 6. Forlan 7. Panucci 8. Kompany 9. Cech 10. Ince 11. Leonardo 12. Bonucci

VivaJanuzaj/EAP 1. P Lahm 2. L. Suarez 3. Effenberg 4. Shearer 5. Overmars 6. Pires 7. Abidal 8. Hyypia 9. Senna 10. Sergi 11. Cambiasso 12. Pepe

Physiocrat 1. Thuram 2. Modric 3. T.Silva 4. van Nistelrooy 5. Sol Campbell 6. G. Signori 7. Serginho 8. Kanchelskis 9. O.Kahn 10. De Rossi 11. Riquelme 12. Geremi

Downcast 1. R. Baggio 2. Kaka 3. Etoo 4. Ayala 5. Maniche 6. Xabi Alonso 7. Candela 8. F. De Boer 9. Camoranesi 10.Barthez 11. Bierhoff 12. C. Bravo

P-Nut 1. R. Keane 2. Vieira 3. Drogba 4. Rui Costa 5. Puyol 6. Barzagli 7. Carrick 8. Ginola 9. Garay 10. Handanovic 11. Basler 12. Robinho

Aldo/prath92 1. Totti 2. Rivaldo 3. Vidic 4. Hierro 5. P. Montero 6. Z. Boban 7. Deco 8. Ljunberg 9. Julio Cesar 10. Juan Pablo Sorin 11. Babbel 12. Klose

Pat Mustard/Sjor Bepo 1. Redondo 2. Figo 3. A. Cole 4. Ferrara 5. Gascoigne 6. Villa 7. Petrescu 8. Boli 9. Larsson 10. Lloris 11. Tugay 12. Yaya Toure

Joga Bonito 1. Xavi 2. Nedved 3. Seedorf 4. Carvalho 5. Deschamps 6. Lucio 7. Benarrivo 8. Neuer 9. van Persie 10. Möller 11. Grosso 12. Park

@oneniltothearsenal
 
antohan said:
I was joking. He did own that left flank, very impressive.

Edit: but you have Candela, is he meant to be a sub for multiple positions?
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Sorry :)

Candela isn't a versatile player IMO.
 
Pat_Mustard said:
Glad to see him getting picked.
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He always does sooner or later. It's an odd one because everyone rates him, but once the game is on nobody really cares.

Re: Boli, maybe the problem is he played some time ago in rarely watched teams. I have very scant recollections of him in that Marseille side.
 
Downcast said:
Sorry :)

Candela isn't a versatile player IMO.
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I meant that since he isn't and will be on the left, what is Heinrich doing? Right or sub?

I suppose he can play on the right, but to me it's like playing Zanetti on the left (right footedness aside).
 
antohan said:
I meant that since he isn't and will be on the left, what is Heinrich doing? Right or sub?

I suppose he can play on the right, but to me it's like playing Zanetti on the left (right footedness aside).
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Heinrich is mine and Skizzos pick! Heinrich actually played great on both sides and like you say he was a natural right footer, as versatile as they come. Played as a sweeper and even a central midfielder too for an extended period and is one of those who can play a ton of positions without losing his quality.

"Beckham felt like his team had been mugged twice but admitted his direct opponent, Jörg Heinrich, was as difficult as anyone he had played against."
 
antohan said:
I meant that since he isn't and will be on the left, what is Heinrich doing? Right or sub?

I suppose he can play on the right, but to me it's like playing Zanetti on the left (right footedness aside).
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He has Lizarazu so I guess he will be 'super sub' if he has 2 unexpected injuries.
 
Downcast said:
He has Lizarazu so I guess he will be 'super sub' if he has 2 unexpected injuries.
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Yup! He's also a great alternative for us to have on the bench in case we do want to pick a United player ahead of Gary in the next round etc. It is a great draft for the exceptionally versatile players and he basically covers the entire defensive line and the two box to box roles in the central midfield.
 
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Heinrich is mine and Skizzos pick! Heinrich actually played great on both sides and like you say he was a natural right footer, as versatile as they come. Played as a sweeper and even a central midfielder too for an extended period and is one of those who can play a ton of positions without losing his quality.

"Beckham felt like his team had been mugged twice but admitted his direct opponent, Jörg Heinrich, was as difficult as anyone he had played against."
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He was versatile, yes, but like all jack-of-all-trades... well, not like all as they are master of none, but he mastered one over the others and that was on the left. Every single reference/quote brought up alludes to him on the left, there's a reason that is the case.
 
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antohan said:
I meant that since he isn't and will be on the left, what is Heinrich doing? Right or sub?

I suppose he can play on the right, but to me it's like playing Zanetti on the left (right footedness aside).
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If memory serves me correct Zanetti played on the left in the CL against none other than Messi and did pretty well :)
 
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