Are you sure? Then why the best manager in the world hasn't replaced Evra with OShea?
Sunderland bid £12m for O'Shea, Gibson & Brown
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss three 1-1 draws.
The first got us knocked out of the FA Cup, the next puts us in a good position in our Round of 16 Europa League game, and the latest was an actual decent performance against Arsenal at Old Trafford.
All hopes for the season now rest on the Europa League - does Amorim have the squad to win it?
Are you sure? Then why the best manager in the world hasn't replaced Evra with OShea?
And, how would this affect our most important success factor; continuity?
Blimey. An Ekeke post I'm 100% in agreement with.
You've been harking on for the last year about potential mistakes you think SAF has made. It's rich for you to say this now.
Is any of this confirmed or backed up by any quotes at all ?
If there's anything SAF is good at it's identifying young potential, and judging by the fact that Arsenal, Liverpool and Spuds were him for him too you can bet your arse that this boy is a future star, something JOS has never been. I don't WANT to move on O'Shea but that's football sadly, SAF proved with P Nev that squad players will get moved on when he feels it is time.
Still waiting to see if the story is true though.
Don't you think that Vidic, Rio and Evra provide enough experience to teach the kids how to play the United way?
We have a lot of winners in our squad still. They've been there, done that and got the medals to prove it. So the remaining experienced players will become the role models now, and most importantly Fergie and his coaching staff are still here.
So you think that SAF made a mistake in not replacing Evra with OShea am I right?
No which is why I'm hopeful it won't go through. I would be gutted if we let our squad players go, absolutely love O'Shea and Brown!
O Shea still has a part to play, but Brown is finished. Great player but ravaged by injury.
Flip me. How much players do you want us to have. Fergie said about 2 or 3 in, unfortunately some will have to leave.
Just drink a coke and accept it.
That's what I think too, unless OShea wants to leave or United have unearthed another rough gem (bar Jones) that can step in and make a difference.
Evans will become the new O'shea.
I agree. But still a bit curious as to whether too many (individually rational) simultaneous changes is a good thing.
I guess we're gonna find out. I think it's kinda exciting in a way and there's no better manager to guide us through it.
You forgot one, Decotron.
I wouldn't like to see Sheasy go, those pictures above are some fantastic moments. My favourite O'Shea moment is him charging down the left wing against Newcastle, beating about three men and then smacking a shot against the crossbar which scholesy (think it was him) follows up to finish.
Someone said Brucie has confirmed Sunderland have made a bid.
I dont know but it would be better to be safe than sorry. We're already losing multiple big personalities and winners from the dressing room this season, keeping 1 more might make all the difference.
Besides a lot of the squad are younger players now, ideally there would be just as many with lots of experience not just Vidic, Rio and Evra, etc.
still can't understand why sell Sheasy.
Am i the only one who remembers this?
It was only 2 men and it's Giggs that scores from it, I seem to have overhyped O'Shea in my own mind.
It was only 2 men and it's Giggs that scores from it, I seem to have overhyped O'Shea in my own mind.
O'Shea is very under-rated by many United fans
We don´t know if, so it's a bit premature to speculate on why.
Reducing the average age of the squad may be an explanation though.
Or, O´Shea wants to end his career with a contract that secures more playing time.
Whatever happens i guess it'll be for the best. SAF knows what he's doing. I would hope we would keep O'Shea and let the other two go, but if we sell all 3 we just have to have faith in the manager. He gets very little wrong
Well, he is only 30! With Scholesy, Nev and VDS (plus Hargo) gone, we need the experience of the other players, especially if grown at the club. I can understand if they accept Gibson-Wes bid, but not O'shea's. It's just nonsense.
sheasy in 2002/2003 was the dogs bollocks.
had everything. what a player.
he is a cult hero of the last 10 years at united. without question.
i know people will say 95 with ince, sparky, and kankan being dumped....
but if we lose vds, gaz, scholes, o'shea, brown all in one summer...that's a lot of united lads that've been here for quite some time. sheer numbers...feels odd.
this won't be the last of the departures too..a couple more from de laet, diouf, bebe, obertan will also leave....and i think berba is gone too.
major surgery being performed on our squad.
had everything. what a player.
he is a cult hero of the last 10 years at united. without question.
i know people will say 95 with ince, sparky, and kankan being dumped....
but if we lose vds, gaz, scholes, o'shea, brown all in one summer...that's a lot of united lads that've been here for quite some time. sheer numbers...feels odd.
this won't be the last of the departures too..a couple more from de laet, diouf, bebe, obertan will also leave....and i think berba is gone too.
major surgery being performed on our squad.
No-one! O'Shea may not be brilliant in any position, but he plays a few positions to a consistently decent standard and can be trusted at any given time.
Players like that are invaluable and i cannot see Fergie selling him unless he asks to go.
After that season I had him down as our Patrick Vieira. I thought he'd move to the centre and sit deep in midfield and rampage forward.
In that season he would bomb forward and had great tekkers, I can't believe how crap he'd look on the ball in years to come.
Great servant to the club though and I will be sad to see him go.
Bebe won't go anywhere, Obertan will go on loan. Berbatov will stay. He might be unhappy about missing some of the big games but he knows he won't find a better club to be at and Ferguson loves to have him as an option.
I agree, and share your concern with regard to the continuity in our squad. I believe that any sale must be considered in relation to the related replacement. Time will tell how the SAF looks at this, and what decisions he thinks are necessary to ensure future success.
they can have Wes Brown (i love him but ...) Gibbo, but they can feck off with a bid for JOS
hmm i actually want gibson and oshea to stay, they are very useful squad players, and we will need gibson in particular with scholes retiring.
Last chance to get any cash for him and he is only likely to decline now - Fergie will probably give him the choice of staying but tell him he is hardly going to play much. will be up to him if he prefers to play most weeks for the likes of Sunderland or warm our bench - in fact unless we have injuries he wouldnt even be a sub for most matches
I rate O'Shea in terms of the job he does in several positions. He's an unspectacular footballer, but he's solid and does a job in several positions without kicking up a fuss.