I wouldn't say boring but it's actually quite like Succession in that there are episodes where nothing really happens but you're just vibing off the characters and their interactions.
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Rectify, on the other hand. Now that's boring. It's possibly very good, but it's still boring.
it’s a tremendous show. Doesn’t come across as boring because the acting is so good.
For me succession is at number 3 behind the leftovers and Mr robot, both shows that more people should watch. I think it's a little bit ahead of the wire and the sopranos both of which had weaker periods but succession hasn't really had that as long as it sticks the landing
Breaking Bad is so overrated
I agree to some extent, but still have it over Succession by a decent margin.
Nah not for me personally.
Mr Robot, Succession and Mad Men are the top tier for me.
What a great episode. Arguably the best of the season so far for me. Alexander Skarsgård plays that character so well, in that you never quite know what he's going to do or say. He seems like he's a borderline sociopath who has you on edge the entire time he's on screen. Incredible acting and writing. That whole scene with him, Ken, and Rom when they first discuss the deal was masterfully done. Such a weird energy.
Also loved Roman's outburst. Matsson is such a fecking douche that it felt strangely cathartic to hear, and going back to what I said about his capriciousness, I had no idea whether Matsson was going to beat the shit out of Roman for talking to him like that, or laugh and shake his hand and treat it as some negotiating foreplay. Presumably, the offer he gave them at the end is nonsense and he's not going to actually buy it. We'll see.
Also, this odd relationship he has going with Shiv is a strange one. I assume he's playing her like a fiddle, and because she's easy to manipulate she falls for it. Because despite the fact she thinks she's always the smartest person in the room, she's actually quite malleable and easily influenced.
Also loved Roman's outburst. Matsson is such a fecking douche that it felt strangely cathartic to hear, and going back to what I said about his capriciousness, I had no idea whether Matsson was going to beat the shit out of Roman for talking to him like that, or laugh and shake his hand and treat it as some negotiating foreplay. Presumably, the offer he gave them at the end is nonsense and he's not going to actually buy it. We'll see.
Also, this odd relationship he has going with Shiv is a strange one. I assume he's playing her like a fiddle, and because she's easy to manipulate she falls for it. Because despite the fact she thinks she's always the smartest person in the room, she's actually quite malleable and easily influenced.
Sopranos' opening song takes U-2 overflights of those that are mentioned.
Even went as far as to remove the side mirror reflection clip of the WTCs so as not to offend anyone after 9.11. That's class.
Theme songs list
1. white lotus
2. Succession
3. Big little lies
1. white lotus
2. Succession
3. Big little lies
GOAT TV show should have been GOT and I'll die on that hill.
Never undestand having debating on greatest shows ever. Most of the ones in the running are all totally different. Succession is a top tier show I have no idea if I prefer it to other top tier shows. Most of them were fecking years ago anyways
A mini-series is just a TV series with one season, I don't see the difference. Chernobyl, Band of Brothers, Watchmen, Wolf Hall occupy the same space in my head as The Wire, The Leftovers, etc. Not to say that they're all equally good, but they're the same kind of thing.
Sopranos is overrated(but still great)
Wash your mouth out.
Show wars , shoow wars
Anyway, take it to another thread.
Someone mentioned it earlier and I think it's spot on, the writers really dont know what to do with greg now. That whole scene with him and the swedes could easily have been cut and wouldnt have changed anything.
Can someone explain to be the point of Greg, as a character?
He doesn’t have a redemption arc, or a ‘fall from grace’ arc. He doesn’t do anything productive & is always just hanging in the corner trying to get in on action.
I saw a piece saying how he is the audience, but if that’s the case then the show runners have a VERY low opinion of us.
So…what’s his purpose in the show?
He doesn’t have a redemption arc, or a ‘fall from grace’ arc. He doesn’t do anything productive & is always just hanging in the corner trying to get in on action.
I saw a piece saying how he is the audience, but if that’s the case then the show runners have a VERY low opinion of us.
So…what’s his purpose in the show?
To highlight nepotism ? He would probably not get a serious job if he wasn't a relative of Logan. He is similar to Tom who at least had to work his way into the family. No wonder they got together as the two outsiders.
He's comic relief. Particularly together with Tom, who also plays that role sometimes but also has more serious parts.
I reckon he has a role to play in the endgame, ewan has a board seat and a decent amount of waystar stock, and whatever issue they had Greg is his grandson, and Greg's mum is his daughter, and I'm sure it'll come into play before the end of the season. But for now, he does seem a bit lost as a character, he's just kind of there.
Its also important to note the original plan, I believe, was to kill off Logan within season 1, so the roles the characters occupy are probably different from the roles they were intended to originally
I think the main point of Greg is/was to show us an outsider, who was thrown into the system, watch him turn into as big a piece of shit as the rest of them. Having such a wide eyed outsider present also means they can just direct a lot of the explanations for the viewer at him, all the "mentoring" Tom does with him is really a direct pipeline of information from the writers to the viewers.
As someone else said it also highlights the nepotism and I think he's been quite important to fully flesh out Tom's character. I guess even now he's serving a purpose, because they are trying to show us how similar Tom actually looks to Greg, once they took away the support of Shiv / Logan.
As someone else said it also highlights the nepotism and I think he's been quite important to fully flesh out Tom's character. I guess even now he's serving a purpose, because they are trying to show us how similar Tom actually looks to Greg, once they took away the support of Shiv / Logan.
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what relation is gregs mum to logan?
She's his brother's daughter, so his niece?!
“are there any Easter eggs you didn’t get first time round?”
“the spelling was different”
absolute gold.
It's almost Office like.
Don't get Mad Men and Succession comparison at all. Succession is much more of a dark comedy which allows it to be a hang-out show for characters and excuses some of the repetitive nature of the plot. Mad Men had its humous moment but was very much a straight drama series. It was very strong for me till Season 5 but then the cyclic plot lines became grating.
Yep. Succession is more a kin to The Office.
Can't beat that finale though
Sopranos is overrated
Agreed. Loved it but ....
If the last season hadn't been so weak and particualrly if they hadn't totally bottled the ending, I'd have liked it far more
She seems to have forgotten this opinion, so we are now 4 or 5 epiodes into S1. Enjoying it enough but hopefully it gets batter. as has been suggested it does in here.
I get the feeling whatever Tom does, Greg does. So while Tom was climbing the ranks and maneuvering for what power he could grab, Greg was supposed to latch on. It made Greg quite relatable in that sense because nobody took him seriously and if it wasn't for his Grandpa he would be cast aside like all the other "normal" people.
But, now that Tom has been pushed out by Shiv he has lost what power he had which has made Greg scramble to find another way through the mess and get some relevancy and power himself.
He had by far and away the best line of the season though. I think it was Episode 2. When he's watching Logan survey the news room floor and he says to Tom "it's like if Santa Claus was a hitman." I lost it at that.
Really? I’d not have it in the top 10 or anywhere near first.
I think it's a great show that I would strongly recommend to anyone, but I'll always be much more impressed that can tell a compelling story without having to rely on comedy or suspense. Because I think it takes a lot more skill create.
Will be interesting to see if it has any replay value once it's done.
It's very good but will be hard to rate it top 5 or top 10 if I have no desire to watch it again.
For me it’s just a solid show with lots of meme/quotable content.
I can’t imagine watching it again. Most of its fun lives in the uncertainty. Take that away and that doesn’t leave much.
It will have terrible replay value - as others have said the entertainment is purely not knowing what will happen. This isn't like Mad Men which often had good stories within a single episode.