Television Succession

GloryHunter07 said:
I find the portrayals of the hugely damaged siblings the best bit about the show, im less bothered by the corporate drama now. Great acting. When will they realise that they are being played like puppets every time by daddy?

A nice companion piece here:

I’m a therapist to the super-rich: they are as miserable as Succession makes out

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/nov/22/therapist-super-rich-succession-billionaires
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Nice full page advert by Clay :lol:
 
They’re really making Kendall completely pathetic at this point aren’t they :lol:
 
It's getting a bit like the Sopranos in that every episode is quality and worth watching but afterwards when you think about it nothing really happened to move the plot forward that much.

Compared to a show like the Wire where all the pieces matter and leads to an apt conclusion sometimes it's easy to think about Succession that's it's really not going anywhere
 
His Kendell is on point.

Didn't realise there's only nine episodes this season, so two left. Feels like nothing has fecking happened.
 
acnumber9 said:
Has Succession ever had much by way of plot?
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Yes: the succession.

The setup is that Logan refuses to give the company to Kendall, the first season is primarily about Kendall trying to take it for himself anyway, the second is him being under Logan's thumb after failing. In both the first and second season, a series of health and political issues suggest that Logan will not be able to hold on. Second season ends with Kendall breaking off in a very serious way.

This season does feel like a lot of momentum has been lost and these stories haven't gone where expected, or anywhere really.
 
Apparently there was a special screening of the Eight episode for the critics on Wednesday and since then there's been a flurry of tweets by them encouraging people to watch the episode as it airs or else avoid Twitter at all costs till you've seen it.

Also, HBO mistakenly posted the promo for the final episode of the season on their YouTube channel ( since taken down) and a certain someone was nowhere to be seen in the trailer. Make of all this what you will. :nervous:
 
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Just saw it, can’t believe everybody was suckered into thinking the big news was a death and we get Roman
 
cyberman said:
Just saw it, can’t believe everybody was suckered into thinking the big news was a death and we get Roman
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I don't think Roman was the big news here.
We all knew he was gonna go down a rung, though the manner in which it happened was unexpectedly hilarious. :lol:

I think the big news is the last shot of the episode.
 
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King7Eric said:
I don't think Roman was the big news here. We all knew he was gonna go down a rung, though the manner in which it happened was unexpectedly hilarious. :lol:

I think the big news is the last shot of the episode.
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Warning since 1 point is a definite spoiler for finale
Apparently earlier promo and trailers have Ken at the wedding and the theory goes he’s testing how long the waiter had to breathe after Logan asked him at the meeting in that last scene
 
cyberman said:
Warning since 1 point is a definite spoiler for finale
Apparently earlier promo and trailers have Ken at the wedding and the theory goes he’s testing how long the waiter had to breathe after Logan asked him at the meeting in that last scene
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Oh I don't think he's dead and yes, I thought he was doing the same after being triggered by Logan's comment regarding the waiter. But the point is after his cathartic high in the first few episodes, the last 2 episodes have been a massive reality check for him. He realized in the previous episode that his siblings don't care about him, no one in his family does and the only way to salvage his life is to get out. But this episode, Logan pretty much refused to let him leave. So he has essentially nowhere to go now, and he's just drowning in guilt and self pity. So either he does kill himself in the finale or he confesses to what happened with the waiter (that podcast was mentioned so could be one medium of doing it), goes to prison and takes Logan down with him as he was complicit in the cover up.
 
Amazing episode. The Roman dick pick sequence was one of the best pieces of comedy the show has done in its run. This episode reminded me of S2 finale and in how many great convos we got between characters. Logan-Ken dinner, Shiv and her mom, Shiv Tom "dirty talk" and Logan - Roman.
 
I don't think Ken is dead, I think you can still see some air bubbles in the water and unless you're seriously fecked up on drugs or alcohol (which I assume he wasn't at midday around his kids) you can't really drown like that, can you? I guess this was supposed to show us that he hit rock bottom and will now either accept that he's not such a good guy after all and double down on that fact, or he will make a confession about the dead waiter.
I also found it curious that "mother" said something like "whenever he loves something, he has to kick it, to see if it comes back to him", together with the meeting scene between Ken and Logan and the fact that he refused to just buy him out, that felt like they might be foreshadowing yet another return into the fold for Ken or at least showing that not all bridges are burned for him.
In general whole episode was just a string of great dialogues, e.g.
Shiv and Roman in the airplane ("sock puppet girl CEO" vs "ricotta dick")
Shiv and Tom mocking Greg and Greg
Roman harassing Gerri
dick-pick-gate was one of the funniest TV moments for me (that's two, together with the Nirvana scene earlier), the joke wasn't a masterpiece of innovative thinking, but the delivery was perfect
 
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Roman is hilarious :lol:

Not buying the idea they’re trying to plant with that final scene.
 
Jev said:
I'd put that first sentence behind a spoiler warning.
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Why? I'm just going on by what the episode showed. I haven't even watched a trailer for the next one. Is this against the rules?
 
do.ob said:
Why? I'm just going on by what the episode showed. I haven't even watched a trailer for the next one. Is this against the rules?
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No.

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I'm not a radical feminist but you may not want to fire her for getting a dick pic.

If I was drinking water, I'd have spat it out. :lol:
 
I thought the episode was decent but a bit all over the place. Jumping from location to location with various circular plot points. The whole season in general has not really progressed story wise and a lot of the writing is just overly ‘clever’ for the sake of it at the moment. Not sure how to feel
about the dick pic bit. I did laugh but it just felt like the writers wanted to rotate who is in favour with Logan again.
 
Solius said:
I thought the episode was decent but a bit all over the place. Jumping from location to location with various circular plot points. The whole season in general has not really progressed story wise and a lot of the writing is just overly ‘clever’ for the sake of it at the moment. Not sure how to feel
about the dick pic bit. I did laugh but it just felt like the writers wanted to rotate who is in favour with Logan again.
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I'm losing interest. Not enough happening in the main arc for me.
 
Solius said:
I thought the episode was decent but a bit all over the place. Jumping from location to location with various circular plot points. The whole season in general has not really progressed story wise and a lot of the writing is just overly ‘clever’ for the sake of it at the moment. Not sure how to feel
about the dick pic bit. I did laugh but it just felt like the writers wanted to rotate who is in favour with Logan again.
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Roman is the guy, who made his engineers rush a rocket launch, to have "fireworks" for his sisters wedding and then tried to pretend it never happened for as long as he could. As with every sibling it's only a matter of time, before dysfunctional character traits catch up with them.
 
Much better episode than last week. Probably my favourite episode of the season, actually. This season has been much nastier than the previous seasons and was typified by this episode. The siblings always talked to each other like shit, but it mostly felt like "just words". Sticks and stones, type of thing. But there's a serious edge to it this season, where you genuinely think they kind of do hate each other. Or at least, they hate Kendall.

Just some great individual scenes as well. That one with Roman cracked me up, even though I knew it was coming as soon as he picked up his phone. :lol:

Not sure about that ending shot. I'm not buying it at all
I don't see them killing off Kendall like that. I'm not sure whether they will kill him off at all, actually. I just don't see the show going there. I think every one is getting ahead of themselves with all that speculation, to be honest.

Also, Sarah Snook :drool:
 
The Shiv and Tom dirty talk scene was the most uncomfortable scene since the series began. Your man who plays Tom is a hell of an actor.
 
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As funny as the dick pic was, it was really dumb. I mean he got a text off Jerri and replied to it. It’s almost impossible to feck that up and send it to someone else!

great episode but this season really feels like a bunch of cool individual episodes with no real over arching plot or continuation anymore. It’s just been very messy, but still very fun.
 
Also am I the only one disappointed that the season two finale that happened well over two years ago basically amounted to absolutely nothing after all that? So underwhelming.
 
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