That's bollocks though really, if Liverpool have any ambition at all then they don't want to strengthen last years fourth place team, seems obvious to me.
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That's bollocks though really, if Liverpool have any ambition at all then they don't want to strengthen last years fourth place team, seems obvious to me.
The last bit was tongue in cheek. In reference to my actual point of them being more willing to sell a player for a lower price to RM than a domestic rival, I stand by it.
Villa?
Yeah you know, similar kits to WHU? Villa? (not the player)
The team that nearly went down last year? You taking the mick or what!
Apparently it's tounge in cheek.
Dunno I struggle to tell with some people, maybe it's me.
You're boring.
I was only playing about the last comment mate, my serious point was regarding the RM/Domestic rival....
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...-his-attachment-to-higher-values-8730929.html
Excellent article on this situation.
Excellent article on this situation.
I don't know, I agree with it to an extent but I don't see how Wenger "abandoning" his transfer policies is a bad thing really, they've been trophyless for the best part of a decade and clearly he feels it's time to move past that policy in order to end that bad run.
People often underestimate just good brilliant a manager Wenger is, he obviously knows what he's doing.
Wenger criticized for penny pinching and "lacking ambition". And now criticized for spending big (maybe). Can't win.
Meh that's bullshit, they haven't won anything in years and have seen some of their best players sold. It's about time they re-invested in some quality players, you can't blame them for that. The 'old Arsenal' wouldn't have been able to compete with the billionaire brigade that is now running football, it's a changing game either spend or get the feck out the way.
Does he know what he is doing? Haven't Arsenal been selling their best players the past few years and not supposedly investing the available funds in talent they have badly needed to challenge for the title again?
...or merely signs of desperation coming through?
...or merely signs of desperation coming through?
Eh?
He's more criticized for spending that sum on Suarez.
He's more criticized for spending that sum on Suarez.
I know, I actually read it, hence "to an extent"
Still, I think my point still stands, Wenger clearly knows what he's doing (the article almost implies that he's completely lost the plot) and now that he finally has money to spend the fans should be glad that he's using it.
EDIT: Also, I'm not sure what's "desperate" about it. Spending big bucks on a top class striker that will improve his team to no end? Sounds like us and Fabregas only Suarez actually wants to go to Arsenal.
I know, I actually read it, hence "to an extent"
Still, I think my point still stands, Wenger clearly knows what he's doing (the article almost implies that he's completely lost the plot) and now that he finally has money to spend the fans should be glad that he's using it.
Hasn't he always had that money though and been reluctant to spend big in favour of youth? - admirable but it's hardly worked.
He has but I thought it was fairly widely accepted that he actually hadn't the funds. I believe there were articles and such this year that stated Arsenal are in a far better situation financially now than previous years and actually do have money available.
I always had the asumption he had the money to spend but didn't want to, but fair enough if that's incorrect.
Wenger used to say he had money to spend, but apart from The Russian flop, he never really spent much. A lot of people thought he was bluffing, and he probably was when you think about who he replaced all those captains with.
No. Wenger has been in the league the longest after Fergie and has won the league a few times. It doesn't make sense that a manager like him would have money and choose not to spend it just for the sake of playing cheap and preferring youth. The logic just doesn't compute. We can make an argument for him making a few questionable signings since 2006 but I hardly agree with premise that he chose to not spend money when he had it.
John Aldridge has come out and said that Suarez should show some loyalty to all the people who stood by him and treated him like a son. He likened Suarez's actions to throwing a custard pie in the faces of the club and its fans. Suarez does not want to go to Arsenal - he is just trying to goad the club into selling him abroad.
That's a rubbish article to be honest. He's been criticized for not spending and selling his best players. He now has the money to buy a proven and quality player to add to his team (without sugar daddy money) and it's now a problem he's spending it? Damned if you do, damned if you don't is what that article implies.
Aldo is just a fan at heart, stating what a lot of fans are thinking.
People get way too emotionally attached to football players these days. Suarez doesn't owe Liverpool nor it's supporters anything.
Still baffles me how clueless people are about Arsenal's finances.
There are genuinely still loads of people who say things like 'they should never have sold Fabregas' and 'why didn't they get Suarez before he went to Liverpool?' and just assume we've had £100m sitting there without us doing anything.
There are genuinely still loads of people who say things like 'they should never have sold Fabregas' and 'why didn't they get Suarez before he went to Liverpool?' and just assume we've had £100m sitting there without us doing anything.
He doesn't deserve criticism for spending the money but more for his hypocrisy on it. Whines for years about teams spending big money but now happy to do so when he can.
There's a nuance between spending big money and spending money you haven't earned/don't have.
That article KM posted and thought was excellent(
) was just pure rubbish.You're not as informed as you think you are. He's always criticized the financial doping of sugar daddies and clubs not spending the money the make. If you make $100 and you can comfortably spend $50 on a player then that's fine. If you make the same $100 and need your sugar daddy to give you an extra $25 to spend on a player then the playing field is obviously not lever nor fair there.
I don't think it's fair to spend money a club haven't earned but when you whine endlessly about money and then spend when you can you show yourself up a bit.There's a nuance between spending big money and spending money you haven't earned/don't have.
That article KM posted and thought was excellent(
He might be getting around 10 million back for Gervinho.
No, you're not accepting the difference.
If you noticed, Wenger has never criticised United, for example. Why? They've earned the money, and thus fair enough. He's criticised the sugar daddy clubs, rightly or wrongly.
He's more than entitled to spend money we've earned and not be labelled a hypocrite.
It still feels a bit grubby having all that scrillah and flashing it about.
What a ridiculously dramatic article that is. Sophomoric writing.
I'll never ever understand why it is okay and "deserved" to get money from a sponsor but not from, say, an oil tycoon. In both cases, businessmen decide to invest money in football clubs.
Well it's because you earn the sponsorship money but you just hit the jackpot when some rich cnut throws money at you.
I can see it from both sides. I'm not all that against the oil clubs because they've at least created some competition for United in the league recently.
Are you fecking daft! They are mostly what fecked us over and put us in the position we've been in for the last 8 years.
There's a nuance between spending big money and spending money you haven't earned/don't have.
That article KM posted and thought was excellent(
Glad you found it funny mate.
Used cancer to have cheap digs at United lately or was that an one time thing?
They're the reason you're battling it out with Spurs, Everton, Newcastle and Liverpool for fourth place instead of challenging United for the title every year.
Not at all, in my view.
I'm not encouraging it, but seriously, we would still have had no money in the last eight years. United would have cherry-picked even more of the top players with no real competition, and we'd have won similar amounts.
It's now that they're going to be a problem for us, because we've got to catch up on 3 teams, not just one. Their impact over the last 8 years hasn't been huge though.
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