I foresee plenty of hollywood long balls and wayward shots from 25 yards.
Steven Gerrard
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I foresee plenty of hollywood long balls and wayward shots from 25 yards.
lol
Because half the England squad consists of Liverpool players and Steven Gerrard captaining them, I want them to get humiliated. I can't stand to see Stevie M lift a trophy or Sturridge do another one of his stupid dances.
Then you don't support England, that's your choice.
I prefer to be loyal to one club and one country but the choice is yours if you prefer to chop and change.
I'm not English and my country aren't in the World cup so I'm not exactly "chopping or changing".
Your comment about United fans having to get behind England and Gerrard out of obligation was just a tad bit nuts tbh.
Then why did you respond to a post directed at England fans of which you are clearly not.
Because you fail to separate United fans from England fans, believing that the former should feel obligated to support the latter by default. Its a ridiculous notion.
Im english and feel no connection to our national team whatsoever, I enjoy international tournaments to just see some great football regardless of who the team is and slowly fall into supporting teams from liking how they play. It's a nice change from die hard supporting your team in the domestic league.
As I say the post was directed at fans of England and United of which you are clearly not. Feel free to hate our country and wish us the worst, that's your right.
Best of luck to your country in the WC, whoever they are.
I really don't think I would, I feel no connection towards England football team at all and its nothing to do with their results.
Personally I think the article is putting a lot of unneeded sensationalism into the end of the season Liverpool had.
Fact is, they weren't good enough as a whole team to win the league and that's pretty much it. Steven Gerrard's slip was part bad luck and part example of why they weren't good enough. His determination to be the 'hero' after that was not helpful either.
Most Liverpool supporters I speak to don't think he's still a 'great' player, nor agree with him getting the 2nd place in PFA Player of the Year. They know the team usually plays better without Gerrard. But then again, I don't talk to RAWK-like Liverpool supporters.
To clarify, I never really rated Gerrard massively at anytime so I'm not his biggest fan either. I think he's been atrocious for England especially and one of their worst performing 'big players' over the last 10 years.
Fact is, they weren't good enough as a whole team to win the league and that's pretty much it. Steven Gerrard's slip was part bad luck and part example of why they weren't good enough. His determination to be the 'hero' after that was not helpful either.
Most Liverpool supporters I speak to don't think he's still a 'great' player, nor agree with him getting the 2nd place in PFA Player of the Year. They know the team usually plays better without Gerrard. But then again, I don't talk to RAWK-like Liverpool supporters.
To clarify, I never really rated Gerrard massively at anytime so I'm not his biggest fan either. I think he's been atrocious for England especially and one of their worst performing 'big players' over the last 10 years.
I will have to take your word for it but I am sceptical.
If England played great football and were competing at the sharp end of tournament football then I am sure that we would see a lot more of the 'Republik of Mancunia/Liverpool' types getting on board.
The T-shirts will be at the printers as we speak.
It depends on the type of football they were playing, I like to watch and wish success on most international teams if they play exciting, good football. If England happened to be one of those teams then I'd happily see them do well but in the same sense I like to see any international team to well, not just because they're England, I certainly wouldn't be garbed in their shirts proclaiming my love for the national team.
I've supported Cheltenham Town as well as United for years and years through thick and thin (a lot of thick), so I don't have much trouble supporting a team not doing well if there is a connection there.
You're right though, if they were doing well you would see plenty more supporters for sure.
I'd be delighted if Gerrard slips in the final and the goal we concede from his mistake loses England the World Cup.
He still is a very good player. Are you another one of those lads that makes up the fact that he has Liverpool supporting mates? No one thinks we play better without Gerrard.
Gerrard has been one of the better players for England. Not good enough for them, but last tournament he carried us out the groups.
That's an embarrassing article. All the rhetorical flourish of a 15 year old with a thesaurus. RAWKish
Really?
The point about playing for the cameras is very true. That huddle after Norwich was William Gallas stuff. Also makes a good point about him getting second place in FWA when there were other players far more deserving of it.
Unless my brother and ones I play five a side with are imaginary people (I do drink a stupid amount of caffeine so perhaps a possibility) then no. My brother loves Gerrard by the way but acknowledges the player he is right now. And I'm pretty sure there have been seasons in recent history (if I'm making this up I apologise) that statistically you played better (or picked up more points or something) without him.
The rest of your post is clearly just your opinion and that's fine, no issue with that.
The article is over the top sensationalism, and it's not particularly well written. It's a shame, because there are some good points raised.
I get the feeling that with the English sports media, there's no middle ground, it's like there's a necessity to polarize opinion one way or another. This isn't limited to Gerrard either, I have the impression it's the same all across football. Not that the French sports media is much better though.
The only accurate part was that Gerrard shouldn't be player of the year. Hardly incisive analysis. The rest is just masturbatory nonsense. The editor who let that be published should be drawn and quartered.
The part about his performances this year being overated can be debated, but at least he has the merit of talking about it. I'd say the criticism of his leadership towards the end of the season is justified, also. And I think the part about his rapport with the media and how he uses it, might be in part true. I do feel that he likes being at the centre of everyone's attention, so that's very subjective (which I guess you call masturbatory nonsense, but I don't mind a journalist having an opinion about something, especially given on that aspect there's some evidence that points towards it).
I liked the 'half man, half folk ballad' line.
As for the editor... don't think it's especially worse or better than most of the drivel that is printed nowadays, so unless you quarter them all...
Blubbering snobs
Purple Heart
Tear stained chest
Peerless touchstone
Midfield portfolio
Ravenous hunger
Soldiers of destiny
Vision of disorganized chaos
Brightest stars in this season's constellation
The eagles landed three killer blows
Saccharine-induced nostalgia
Triumph of mush
The greatest fable since the days of Aesop
Comically inept
Bullet ridden Bambi
Impertinence from the underclass
Public utterances
Merely dissolved
Hint of a proletariat uprising
Helter skeltet contest
Ambushed by injury
Fist pumping rally cries
Smitten innocent-in-love badge kissing
Turning on the tear taps
Mortifying gladiator speech
Fearless superintendent
Upholder of standards
The man who will keep the darkness at bay
When night fell for Liverpool supporters
Can you even believe the metric feckton of absolute bullshit he comes out with? What a pseud. Alastair is right, if this is the kind of shit that gets churned out by liberal arts wankers, it's time to close it down entirely. If the end of subsistence farming has led to this article, it's not worth it. Reading that article made me wish I was illiterate.
Purple Heart
Tear stained chest
Peerless touchstone
Midfield portfolio
Ravenous hunger
Soldiers of destiny
Vision of disorganized chaos
Brightest stars in this season's constellation
The eagles landed three killer blows
Saccharine-induced nostalgia
Triumph of mush
The greatest fable since the days of Aesop
Comically inept
Bullet ridden Bambi
Impertinence from the underclass
Public utterances
Merely dissolved
Hint of a proletariat uprising
Helter skeltet contest
Ambushed by injury
Fist pumping rally cries
Smitten innocent-in-love badge kissing
Turning on the tear taps
Mortifying gladiator speech
Fearless superintendent
Upholder of standards
The man who will keep the darkness at bay
When night fell for Liverpool supporters
Can you even believe the metric feckton of absolute bullshit he comes out with? What a pseud. Alastair is right, if this is the kind of shit that gets churned out by liberal arts wankers, it's time to close it down entirely. If the end of subsistence farming has led to this article, it's not worth it. Reading that article made me wish I was illiterate.
I would call it self indulgent but even that implies some redeeming value. It's a thousand word wankathon filled with cultural references (gladiator), obvious hyperbole (biggest fable since the days of Aesop), unnecessary adjectives (disorganized chaos, as opposed to organized chaos?) and an attempt to set the world record for most ways to say that someone cried in one article (at least three, I don't dare read it again). I'm going to print out that article, spread it on my lawn and watch it grow green.
I kind of wish he played for United instead of Liverpool. 
It's a parody of Scouse OTT outpourings, see RAWK and so on. Tough to overcook when you've got this sort of stuff to top...
“When we find ourselves in times of trouble, Stevie G runs past me,
Playing the game with wisdom, Stevie G,
And in my home, the Spion Kop, We watch him jog, right in front of me,
Spreading balls with wisdom, Stevie G,
Let it be, let it be, let it be,
Stevie G, The local lad turned hero, Stevie G
And when the jubilant Kopite people, All living in The Park agree,
That we all know the answer, Stevie G,
And although we may all be fooled, There is still a chance that we will see,
The footballing phenomenon, Stevie G,
Let it be, let it be, let it be,
Stevie G, Spreading balls with wisdom, Stevie G
And when the night is cloudy, There is still a man that we all see,
A young, committed Kopite, Stevie G,
Playing to the sound of music, Stevie G runs past me,
Playing the game with wisdom, Stevie G,
Let it be, let it be, let it be, Stevie G,
For we all know the answer, his name is Stevie G”
When you put it like that!
Though al is one to talk, that's how he posts when he speaks about Arsenal. Though at least I guess he isn't paid to do so.
The article exaggerates and is poorly written, but has quite a few valid arguments. The english media gave Gerrard the image of being the perfect player; good old hardworking pal, sacrificing himself for the team, great leadership, big emphasis on fair-play, decent, humble with incredible skill to win games single-handedly. The truth is, that he was a very good player and is still a good player, but all this mystifying bullshit is completely ignoring the reality. The english media coverage about him is so ridiculously one-sided and biased, that every article who doesnt idolize him is refreshing.
Gerrard seem to like his public image and pushes it whenever he can. That makes it pretty hard to like him. To be fair, he is not the only british player, that is getting overrated by english media. It happens a lot, but its worst with him. Thats also the reason why the media is always incredible surprised when the national side is not playing particularly well in Cups.
Gerrard seem to like his public image and pushes it whenever he can. That makes it pretty hard to like him. To be fair, he is not the only british player, that is getting overrated by english media. It happens a lot, but its worst with him. Thats also the reason why the media is always incredible surprised when the national side is not playing particularly well in Cups.
'Kin hell, it's not meant to be exceptional prose, it's just a bit of fun. And it's very true.
Picture from the Rovers/Liverpool friendly in Landsdowne Rd yesterday
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...ws/manchester-united-fans-fly-another-7124415
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...ws/manchester-united-fans-fly-another-7124415
I'm English and I do not support England, especially Gerrard, no way am I going to do that after so many United based England Captains/players have been abused by you opposition fans. Well I presume you are one anyway. I am under no obligation whatsoever to support that man and that turd of a team.
That'd be gold@Olly couldn't get the gerrard and kompany faces on this could you?
Paddy Power seriously need to shut the feck up or feck the feck off
Picture from the Rovers/Liverpool friendly in Landsdowne Rd yesterday
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...ws/manchester-united-fans-fly-another-7124415
This plane shit is embarrassing.