Stars and Reserves Draft - Winner: Gio
- Thread starter Don Alfredo
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Ahhh I only discovered Dalglish wasn't on the blocklist just yesterday, then fell in love with the idea of him being my false 9 
knew he would be added to Ecstatic's English league team...
Was keen to see how people would react to it. Dalglish as a false 9 with a quick direct creator on one side and a quick direct goalscorer on the other - ideal or a stretch too far? I thought people might get caught up on the lack of the big man, little man partnership in spite of Dalglish's versatile skillset.
knew he would be added to Ecstatic's English league team...Was keen to see how people would react to it. Dalglish as a false 9 with a quick direct creator on one side and a quick direct goalscorer on the other - ideal or a stretch too far? I thought people might get caught up on the lack of the big man, little man partnership in spite of Dalglish's versatile skillset.
Isn't Mbappe ineligible as per the OP?
Edit: my bad, read the rule again.
Edit: my bad, read the rule again.
Lovely.. I honestly thought he would go earlier
I think he'd be beautiful there. Was gagging to try it in the pre-Premier League draft we did a few months ago, but kept on being handed strikers in the reinforcements.Ahhh I only discovered Dalglish wasn't on the blocklist just yesterday, then fell in love with the idea of him being my false 9
Was keen to see how people would react to it. Dalglish as a false 9 with a quick direct creator on one side and a quick direct goalscorer on the other - ideal or a stretch too far? I thought people might get caught up on the lack of the big man, little man partnership in spite of Dalglish's versatile skillset.
just saw thisbtw great pick in Kenny, one of the standout names in the pool.
Cheers. Some haven't picked a single star player and some will revolutionize their teams by the end of this draft.
Ahhh I only discovered Dalglish wasn't on the blocklist just yesterday, then fell in love with the idea of him being my false 9
Was keen to see how people would react to it. Dalglish as a false 9 with a quick direct creator on one side and a quick direct goalscorer on the other - ideal or a stretch too far? I thought people might get caught up on the lack of the big man, little man partnership in spite of Dalglish's versatile skillset.
Sorry.
Regarding the false 9 position, I think you could have sold very well this story but you already have a great potential false 9 like Laudrup. After picking 3 times Michael, it's up to others to enjoy him!!
The risk for a false 9 is to be isolated, so to avoid this risk there are 3 main typical options a) you have wing-forward who would join the penalty area like M'bappé with PSG b) a very close support in the central area, say Pele c) many box-to-box players
Thought you'd agree!
Yeah that's where Salah came in, for me. Spends half the game playing as a striker so Dalglish would never be isolated, and with Laudrup and Modric providing the creative support and adding numbers going forward when necessary, he'd have the freedom to be both a goalscorer and a creator as needed.
He played a very similar role to Firmino, with the exception that their strike partners operated in different spaces due to broader trends, and Firmino obviously was a bigger contributor to the defensive phase (though Dalglish was no slouch!).
On the Laudrup point, I thought the same - is more creativity really needed? But then a false nine that isn't very creative will just be a productive workhorse, which works beautifully tactically but looks underwhelming in a draft line up. Most players who could play that position to an elite level were a bit more individualistic.
One thing's for sure, there's no arguing with the Dalglish & Greaves partnership!
@Ecstatic would be interesting who will warm the bench for this round. All four are one of the best in their respective positions considering the pool.
Anyone who can leave my pick with?
Ecstatic seems to be the go to guy. I can keep it too in case he isn't around.
Send it to me as well.
Sent my pick to @Enigma_87 @GodShaveTheQueen
He is not a 'difference maker' like some other stars available. And there are enough CMs in reserves to not need Modric that highly.
I will send now my pick to Don Alfredo/Enigma/GodShavetheQueen
Funnily enough, Luka Modric was probably the player closest to being put on the block list (with Laudrup and Dzajic, who just got away).
I have him down as being marginally better or at least equal to Schweinsteiger and loads of other people have the same opinion, as can be seen by the insanely close poll in EAP's thread https://www.redcafe.net/threads/modric-vs-schweinsteiger.443317/
However, in this rather small draft community, Schweinsteiger is much more likely to win you votes and there is also the backlash from people who didn't like his Ballon D'Or win (Messi fans, Ronaldo fans and other people), as has been pointed out.
I believe Schweinsteiger would have been picked at the beginning of the draft, even if CMs are rarely prioritized.
Today it is hurting him, but in a few years the Ballon D'Or is gonna greatly enhance his legacy, as it is with other players who are among the very few CMs and Defenders to win it: Cannavaro, Masopust, Sammer, even Luis Suarez Miramontes. Matthaus and Beckenbauer are the only two defenders and midfielders (CM/DM) who didn't need the Ballon D'Or win one bit to raise their standing.
I have him down as being marginally better or at least equal to Schweinsteiger and loads of other people have the same opinion, as can be seen by the insanely close poll in EAP's thread https://www.redcafe.net/threads/modric-vs-schweinsteiger.443317/
However, in this rather small draft community, Schweinsteiger is much more likely to win you votes and there is also the backlash from people who didn't like his Ballon D'Or win (Messi fans, Ronaldo fans and other people), as has been pointed out.
I believe Schweinsteiger would have been picked at the beginning of the draft, even if CMs are rarely prioritized.
Today it is hurting him, but in a few years the Ballon D'Or is gonna greatly enhance his legacy, as it is with other players who are among the very few CMs and Defenders to win it: Cannavaro, Masopust, Sammer, even Luis Suarez Miramontes. Matthaus and Beckenbauer are the only two defenders and midfielders (CM/DM) who didn't need the Ballon D'Or win one bit to raise their standing.
1. GodShaveTheQueen - 1) *D. Dzajic 2) *K. Hamrin 3) O. Sivori 4) I. Netto 5) R. Bonhof
2. Brwned - 1) *M. Laudrup 2) M. Salah 3) ^L. Sane 4) R. Varane 5) *L. Modric
3. Michaelf7777777/cubemine - 1) R. Bochini 2) G. Bulgarelli 3. R. Benetti 4) Germano (POR) 5) R. Gordillo
4. Šjor Bepo/Pat_Mustard - 1) N. Liedholm 2) *O. Blokhin 3) E. Francescoli 4) A. Bennarivo 5) K. De Bruyne
5. EAP/Indy/OneNil - 1) *U. Seeler 2) W. Sagnol 3) *B. Lizarazu 4) D. Blanchflower 5) L. Brady
6. Jim Beam/Invictus - 1) *H. Stoichkov 2) F. Albert 3) *J. Bozsik 4) D. Villa 5) M. Silva
7. Don Alfredo - 1) *P. Nedved 2) C. Vieri 3) J. Heynckes 4) P. Evra 5) V. van Dijk
8. P-Nut0712/Arbitrium - 1) Neymar 2) ^J. Kimmich 3) J. Veron 4) *K-H Schnellinger 5) C. Puyol
9. Moby - 1) *Jairzinho 2) *Rivelino 3) *B. Schuster 4) ^L. Hernandez 5) R. Bratseth
10. green_smiley -1) K. Keegan 2) A. Simonsen 3) F. Ribery 4) H-G Schwarzenbeck 5) *E. Gerets
11. Gio - 1) *F. Gento 2) D. Savicevic 3) H. Sanchez 4) W. Schulz 5) B. Bremner
12. Physiocrat - 1) *T. Finney 2) J. Barnes 3) M. Olsen 4) *W. Overath 5. M. Tassotti
13. MJJ - 1) N. Kante 2) P. Pogba 3) W. Rooney 4) *Marcelo 5) K. M'bappé
14. Ecstatic - 1) *J. Greaves 2) *D. Beckham 3) *R. Giggs 4) *P. Vieira 5) K. Dalglish
15. Skizzo - 1) E. Cantona 2) A. Shearer 3) A. Hansen 4) D. Irwin 5) R. Donadoni
16. Himannv/2mufc0 - 1) *R. Kopa 2) A. Costacurta 3) E. Hazard 4) S. Aguero 5) S. Effenburg 6) G. Bale
@Skizzo
2. Brwned - 1) *M. Laudrup 2) M. Salah 3) ^L. Sane 4) R. Varane 5) *L. Modric
3. Michaelf7777777/cubemine - 1) R. Bochini 2) G. Bulgarelli 3. R. Benetti 4) Germano (POR) 5) R. Gordillo
4. Šjor Bepo/Pat_Mustard - 1) N. Liedholm 2) *O. Blokhin 3) E. Francescoli 4) A. Bennarivo 5) K. De Bruyne
5. EAP/Indy/OneNil - 1) *U. Seeler 2) W. Sagnol 3) *B. Lizarazu 4) D. Blanchflower 5) L. Brady
6. Jim Beam/Invictus - 1) *H. Stoichkov 2) F. Albert 3) *J. Bozsik 4) D. Villa 5) M. Silva
7. Don Alfredo - 1) *P. Nedved 2) C. Vieri 3) J. Heynckes 4) P. Evra 5) V. van Dijk
8. P-Nut0712/Arbitrium - 1) Neymar 2) ^J. Kimmich 3) J. Veron 4) *K-H Schnellinger 5) C. Puyol
9. Moby - 1) *Jairzinho 2) *Rivelino 3) *B. Schuster 4) ^L. Hernandez 5) R. Bratseth
10. green_smiley -1) K. Keegan 2) A. Simonsen 3) F. Ribery 4) H-G Schwarzenbeck 5) *E. Gerets
11. Gio - 1) *F. Gento 2) D. Savicevic 3) H. Sanchez 4) W. Schulz 5) B. Bremner
12. Physiocrat - 1) *T. Finney 2) J. Barnes 3) M. Olsen 4) *W. Overath 5. M. Tassotti
13. MJJ - 1) N. Kante 2) P. Pogba 3) W. Rooney 4) *Marcelo 5) K. M'bappé
14. Ecstatic - 1) *J. Greaves 2) *D. Beckham 3) *R. Giggs 4) *P. Vieira 5) K. Dalglish
15. Skizzo - 1) E. Cantona 2) A. Shearer 3) A. Hansen 4) D. Irwin 5) R. Donadoni
16. Himannv/2mufc0 - 1) *R. Kopa 2) A. Costacurta 3) E. Hazard 4) S. Aguero 5) S. Effenburg 6) G. Bale
@Skizzo
Sir Alex Ferguson said:
1. GodShaveTheQueen - 1) *D. Dzajic 2) *K. Hamrin 3) O. Sivori 4) I. Netto 5) R. Bonhof
2. Brwned - 1) *M. Laudrup 2) M. Salah 3) ^L. Sane 4) R. Varane 5) *L. Modric
3. Michaelf7777777/cubemine - 1) R. Bochini 2) G. Bulgarelli 3. R. Benetti 4) Germano (POR) 5) R. Gordillo
4. Šjor Bepo/Pat_Mustard - 1) N. Liedholm 2) *O. Blokhin 3) E. Francescoli 4) A. Bennarivo 5) K. De Bruyne
5. EAP/Indy/OneNil - 1) *U. Seeler 2) W. Sagnol 3) *B. Lizarazu 4) D. Blanchflower 5) L. Brady
6. Jim Beam/Invictus - 1) *H. Stoichkov 2) F. Albert 3) *J. Bozsik 4) D. Villa 5) M. Silva
7. Don Alfredo - 1) *P. Nedved 2) C. Vieri 3) J. Heynckes 4) P. Evra 5) V. van Dijk
8. P-Nut0712/Arbitrium - 1) Neymar 2) ^J. Kimmich 3) J. Veron 4) *K-H Schnellinger 5) C. Puyol
9. Moby - 1) *Jairzinho 2) *Rivelino 3) *B. Schuster 4) ^L. Hernandez 5) R. Bratseth
10. green_smiley -1) K. Keegan 2) A. Simonsen 3) F. Ribery 4) H-G Schwarzenbeck 5) *E. Gerets
11. Gio - 1) *F. Gento 2) D. Savicevic 3) H. Sanchez 4) W. Schulz 5) B. Bremner
12. Physiocrat - 1) *T. Finney 2) J. Barnes 3) M. Olsen 4) *W. Overath 5. M. Tassotti
13. MJJ - 1) N. Kante 2) P. Pogba 3) W. Rooney 4) *Marcelo 5) K. M'bappé
14. Ecstatic - 1) *J. Greaves 2) *D. Beckham 3) *R. Giggs 4) *P. Vieira 5) K. Dalglish
15. Skizzo - 1) E. Cantona 2) A. Shearer 3) A. Hansen 4) D. Irwin 5) R. Donadoni 6) T. Adams
16. Himannv/2mufc0 - 1) *R. Kopa 2) A. Costacurta 3) E. Hazard 4) S. Aguero 5) S. Effenburg 6) G. Bale
@Ecstatic
2. Brwned - 1) *M. Laudrup 2) M. Salah 3) ^L. Sane 4) R. Varane 5) *L. Modric
3. Michaelf7777777/cubemine - 1) R. Bochini 2) G. Bulgarelli 3. R. Benetti 4) Germano (POR) 5) R. Gordillo
4. Šjor Bepo/Pat_Mustard - 1) N. Liedholm 2) *O. Blokhin 3) E. Francescoli 4) A. Bennarivo 5) K. De Bruyne
5. EAP/Indy/OneNil - 1) *U. Seeler 2) W. Sagnol 3) *B. Lizarazu 4) D. Blanchflower 5) L. Brady
6. Jim Beam/Invictus - 1) *H. Stoichkov 2) F. Albert 3) *J. Bozsik 4) D. Villa 5) M. Silva
7. Don Alfredo - 1) *P. Nedved 2) C. Vieri 3) J. Heynckes 4) P. Evra 5) V. van Dijk
8. P-Nut0712/Arbitrium - 1) Neymar 2) ^J. Kimmich 3) J. Veron 4) *K-H Schnellinger 5) C. Puyol
9. Moby - 1) *Jairzinho 2) *Rivelino 3) *B. Schuster 4) ^L. Hernandez 5) R. Bratseth
10. green_smiley -1) K. Keegan 2) A. Simonsen 3) F. Ribery 4) H-G Schwarzenbeck 5) *E. Gerets
11. Gio - 1) *F. Gento 2) D. Savicevic 3) H. Sanchez 4) W. Schulz 5) B. Bremner
12. Physiocrat - 1) *T. Finney 2) J. Barnes 3) M. Olsen 4) *W. Overath 5. M. Tassotti
13. MJJ - 1) N. Kante 2) P. Pogba 3) W. Rooney 4) *Marcelo 5) K. M'bappé
14. Ecstatic - 1) *J. Greaves 2) *D. Beckham 3) *R. Giggs 4) *P. Vieira 5) K. Dalglish
15. Skizzo - 1) E. Cantona 2) A. Shearer 3) A. Hansen 4) D. Irwin 5) R. Donadoni 6) T. Adams
16. Himannv/2mufc0 - 1) *R. Kopa 2) A. Costacurta 3) E. Hazard 4) S. Aguero 5) S. Effenburg 6) G. Bale
@Ecstatic
@Ecstatic picks the ever present in recent drafts Dave Mackay
https://footballia.net/players/dave-craig-mackay
@MJJ
Dave Mackayhttps://footballia.net/players/dave-craig-mackay
@MJJ
Nothing against Dalglish as a false 9 but I wouldn't prefer Laudrup as a wide playmaker in this formation.
1. GodShaveTheQueen - 1) *D. Dzajic 2) *K. Hamrin 3) O. Sivori 4) I. Netto 5) R. Bonhof
2. Brwned - 1) *M. Laudrup 2) M. Salah 3) ^L. Sane 4) R. Varane 5) *L. Modric
3. Michaelf7777777/cubemine - 1) R. Bochini 2) G. Bulgarelli 3. R. Benetti 4) Germano (POR) 5) R. Gordillo
4. Šjor Bepo/Pat_Mustard - 1) N. Liedholm 2) *O. Blokhin 3) E. Francescoli 4) A. Bennarivo 5) K. De Bruyne
5. EAP/Indy/OneNil - 1) *U. Seeler 2) W. Sagnol 3) *B. Lizarazu 4) D. Blanchflower 5) L. Brady
6. Jim Beam/Invictus - 1) *H. Stoichkov 2) F. Albert 3) *J. Bozsik 4) D. Villa 5) M. Silva
7. Don Alfredo - 1) *P. Nedved 2) C. Vieri 3) J. Heynckes 4) P. Evra 5) V. van Dijk
8. P-Nut0712/Arbitrium - 1) Neymar 2) ^J. Kimmich 3) J. Veron 4) *K-H Schnellinger 5) C. Puyol
9. Moby - 1) *Jairzinho 2) *Rivelino 3) *B. Schuster 4) ^L. Hernandez 5) R. Bratseth
10. green_smiley -1) K. Keegan 2) A. Simonsen 3) F. Ribery 4) H-G Schwarzenbeck 5) *E. Gerets
11. Gio - 1) *F. Gento 2) D. Savicevic 3) H. Sanchez 4) W. Schulz 5) B. Bremner
12. Physiocrat - 1) *T. Finney 2) J. Barnes 3) M. Olsen 4) *W. Overath 5. M. Tassotti
13. MJJ - 1) N. Kante 2) P. Pogba 3) W. Rooney 4) *Marcelo 5) K. M'bappé
14. Ecstatic - 1) *J. Greaves 2) *D. Beckham 3) *R. Giggs 4) *P. Vieira 5) K. Dalglish 6) D. Mackay
15. Skizzo - 1) E. Cantona 2) A. Shearer 3) A. Hansen 4) D. Irwin 5) R. Donadoni 6) T. Adams
16. Himannv/2mufc0 - 1) *R. Kopa 2) A. Costacurta 3) E. Hazard 4) S. Aguero 5) S. Effenburg 6) G. Bale
2. Brwned - 1) *M. Laudrup 2) M. Salah 3) ^L. Sane 4) R. Varane 5) *L. Modric
3. Michaelf7777777/cubemine - 1) R. Bochini 2) G. Bulgarelli 3. R. Benetti 4) Germano (POR) 5) R. Gordillo
4. Šjor Bepo/Pat_Mustard - 1) N. Liedholm 2) *O. Blokhin 3) E. Francescoli 4) A. Bennarivo 5) K. De Bruyne
5. EAP/Indy/OneNil - 1) *U. Seeler 2) W. Sagnol 3) *B. Lizarazu 4) D. Blanchflower 5) L. Brady
6. Jim Beam/Invictus - 1) *H. Stoichkov 2) F. Albert 3) *J. Bozsik 4) D. Villa 5) M. Silva
7. Don Alfredo - 1) *P. Nedved 2) C. Vieri 3) J. Heynckes 4) P. Evra 5) V. van Dijk
8. P-Nut0712/Arbitrium - 1) Neymar 2) ^J. Kimmich 3) J. Veron 4) *K-H Schnellinger 5) C. Puyol
9. Moby - 1) *Jairzinho 2) *Rivelino 3) *B. Schuster 4) ^L. Hernandez 5) R. Bratseth
10. green_smiley -1) K. Keegan 2) A. Simonsen 3) F. Ribery 4) H-G Schwarzenbeck 5) *E. Gerets
11. Gio - 1) *F. Gento 2) D. Savicevic 3) H. Sanchez 4) W. Schulz 5) B. Bremner
12. Physiocrat - 1) *T. Finney 2) J. Barnes 3) M. Olsen 4) *W. Overath 5. M. Tassotti
13. MJJ - 1) N. Kante 2) P. Pogba 3) W. Rooney 4) *Marcelo 5) K. M'bappé
14. Ecstatic - 1) *J. Greaves 2) *D. Beckham 3) *R. Giggs 4) *P. Vieira 5) K. Dalglish 6) D. Mackay
15. Skizzo - 1) E. Cantona 2) A. Shearer 3) A. Hansen 4) D. Irwin 5) R. Donadoni 6) T. Adams
16. Himannv/2mufc0 - 1) *R. Kopa 2) A. Costacurta 3) E. Hazard 4) S. Aguero 5) S. Effenburg 6) G. Bale
As tempting as calling your pick invalid when my chance comes and picking him myself to partner Hamrin sounds, I'll let this one pass after your Marcelo feck up
https://footballia.net/players/orvar-bergmark
Will take a couple of hours. In work still and need to think
Someone correct Effenburg, Benarrivo and Mbappe spelling please when you update the list, or others will have problems using the search function (especially with Mbappe)
1. GodShaveTheQueen - 1) *D. Dzajic 2) *K. Hamrin 3) O. Sivori 4) I. Netto 5) R. Bonhof
2. Brwned - 1) *M. Laudrup 2) M. Salah 3) ^L. Sane 4) R. Varane 5) *L. Modric
3. Michaelf7777777/cubemine - 1) R. Bochini 2) G. Bulgarelli 3. R. Benetti 4) Germano (POR) 5) R. Gordillo
4. Šjor Bepo/Pat_Mustard - 1) N. Liedholm 2) *O. Blokhin 3) E. Francescoli 4) A. Benarrivo 5) K. De Bruyne
5. EAP/Indy/OneNil - 1) *U. Seeler 2) W. Sagnol 3) *B. Lizarazu 4) D. Blanchflower 5) L. Brady
6. Jim Beam/Invictus - 1) *H. Stoichkov 2) F. Albert 3) *J. Bozsik 4) D. Villa 5) M. Silva
7. Don Alfredo - 1) *P. Nedved 2) C. Vieri 3) J. Heynckes 4) P. Evra 5) V. van Dijk
8. P-Nut0712/Arbitrium - 1) Neymar 2) ^J. Kimmich 3) J. Veron 4) *K-H Schnellinger 5) C. Puyol
9. Moby - 1) *Jairzinho 2) *Rivelino 3) *B. Schuster 4) ^L. Hernandez 5) R. Bratseth
10. green_smiley -1) K. Keegan 2) A. Simonsen 3) F. Ribery 4) H-G Schwarzenbeck 5) *E. Gerets
11. Gio - 1) *F. Gento 2) D. Savicevic 3) H. Sanchez 4) W. Schulz 5) B. Bremner
12. Physiocrat - 1) *T. Finney 2) J. Barnes 3) M. Olsen 4) *W. Overath 5. M. Tassotti
13. MJJ - 1) N. Kante 2) P. Pogba 3) W. Rooney 4) *Marcelo 5) K. Mbappe
14. Ecstatic - 1) *J. Greaves 2) *D. Beckham 3) *R. Giggs 4) *P. Vieira 5) K. Dalglish 6) D. Mackay
15. Skizzo - 1) E. Cantona 2) A. Shearer 3) A. Hansen 4) D. Irwin 5) R. Donadoni 6) T. Adams
16. Himannv/2mufc0 - 1) *R. Kopa 2) A. Costacurta 3) E. Hazard 4) S. Aguero 5) S. Effenberg 6) G. Bale
@Don Alfredo done
2. Brwned - 1) *M. Laudrup 2) M. Salah 3) ^L. Sane 4) R. Varane 5) *L. Modric
3. Michaelf7777777/cubemine - 1) R. Bochini 2) G. Bulgarelli 3. R. Benetti 4) Germano (POR) 5) R. Gordillo
4. Šjor Bepo/Pat_Mustard - 1) N. Liedholm 2) *O. Blokhin 3) E. Francescoli 4) A. Benarrivo 5) K. De Bruyne
5. EAP/Indy/OneNil - 1) *U. Seeler 2) W. Sagnol 3) *B. Lizarazu 4) D. Blanchflower 5) L. Brady
6. Jim Beam/Invictus - 1) *H. Stoichkov 2) F. Albert 3) *J. Bozsik 4) D. Villa 5) M. Silva
7. Don Alfredo - 1) *P. Nedved 2) C. Vieri 3) J. Heynckes 4) P. Evra 5) V. van Dijk
8. P-Nut0712/Arbitrium - 1) Neymar 2) ^J. Kimmich 3) J. Veron 4) *K-H Schnellinger 5) C. Puyol
9. Moby - 1) *Jairzinho 2) *Rivelino 3) *B. Schuster 4) ^L. Hernandez 5) R. Bratseth
10. green_smiley -1) K. Keegan 2) A. Simonsen 3) F. Ribery 4) H-G Schwarzenbeck 5) *E. Gerets
11. Gio - 1) *F. Gento 2) D. Savicevic 3) H. Sanchez 4) W. Schulz 5) B. Bremner
12. Physiocrat - 1) *T. Finney 2) J. Barnes 3) M. Olsen 4) *W. Overath 5. M. Tassotti
13. MJJ - 1) N. Kante 2) P. Pogba 3) W. Rooney 4) *Marcelo 5) K. Mbappe
14. Ecstatic - 1) *J. Greaves 2) *D. Beckham 3) *R. Giggs 4) *P. Vieira 5) K. Dalglish 6) D. Mackay
15. Skizzo - 1) E. Cantona 2) A. Shearer 3) A. Hansen 4) D. Irwin 5) R. Donadoni 6) T. Adams
16. Himannv/2mufc0 - 1) *R. Kopa 2) A. Costacurta 3) E. Hazard 4) S. Aguero 5) S. Effenberg 6) G. Bale
@Don Alfredo done
I kind of get what you mean but disagree personally. In a tight game where your one key playmaker is facing up to a top DM, a supporting playmaker can tip the scales on terms of control over the game, which is the same thing as being a difference maker. And Modric can do that to an elite level without making the midfield porous.
To me that's a really special quality in this draft that you can't get to remotely the same degree from players outside below the stars tier, and there's maybe only a handful of supporting playmakers worth sacrificing a star pick for.
Oh yeah agreed. He's down the middle. Salah one side, Sane the other. It was just my clunky terminology of describing Sane as a creative, direct attacker that gave any other impression! I just described him in that way as a contrast to Salah, rather than that being the ideal description.
Dalglish was a genius pick in the 5th round. While for the most part I think all drafters individually rate players fairly, I think there is cumulative bias that leads Dalglish to be criminally underrated. Of course I can understand this as that overrated Spuds wanker Mackey keeps getting picked
Dalglish was a genius pick in the 5th round. While for the most part I think all drafters individually rate players fairly, I think there is cumulative bias that leads Dalglish to be criminally underrated. Of course I can understand this as that overrated Spuds wanker Mackey keeps getting picked
I told Enigma before that Dalglish is better than Keegan and he got picked in the first round
Guess I was wrong in how drafters value them, although the pick itself had a pretty good reception.
I told Enigma before that Dalglish is better than Keegan and he got picked in the first round
Guess I was wrong in how drafters value them, although the pick itself had a pretty good reception.
Yeah I agree. I only watched a lot of Dalglish recently when I picked him in the Pre-PL draft and I came away thinking he really deserves to be picked more and spotlighted. He rarely even makes the R1 squad in all-time drafts. Of course if this was on an Arsenal forum you would never see chaff like Davey Mack picked ever in a draft
Haven't watched a lot of Keegan, but most places I read in the past (not pool forums), people seemed to rate Keegan a lot more than Kenny.
That's odd, I've never seen anyone rate one "a lot more" than the other. Usually they are paired close in rankings no matter which is higher like here:
http://glavisted.blogspot.com/2011/04/top-50-de-segundos-delanteros.html
Yeah lot more was bad choice of words. I meant more.
I think it has a lot to do with Ballon D'Ors — as the time goes, more people will see Keegan winning 2 and assume that he was a better player.
Not much to separate them in my book. A bit surprising that he lasted that long, really, especially with the likes of Keegan getting picked in the 1st round. They both aren't fancy enough to compete with attacking midfielders and supporting strikers in our usual all-time drafts, but in drafts like this they should shine. They're not bad, but they understandably lack recognition on United forum and they weren't as easy on the eye as Bergkamp or even Barnes to overcome the prejudice.
I told Enigma before that Dalglish is better than Keegan and he got picked in the first round
Keegan is a weird case. Won the Balon d'Or twice and that's exalted company to be in. But no one seems to really illustrate what he brings to the table in a draft match till now.
I thought that my team that got to Reality-Monopoly draft final was a pretty good use of him. The only one I don't like here is Charles.
I meant what he offers to the team. He has been described as good player but not naturally talented, not a premium dribbler, instinctive goalscorer but not a premium poacher, had speed but not the blistering pace on the first 2 steps. Only thing that really comes out is he was a physically fit player and can't be bulldozed off the ball.
Kinda a better version of K* is what I got from my previous research
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And he was lucky enough to fall in the gap after Beckenbauer/Cruyff and before Kalle/Platini for the Big B awards!
@Edgar Allan Pillow Stop naming unpicked players and stop insulting my heroes
Keegan was 5 ft 8, he was nothing like him
Keegan was 5 ft 8, he was nothing like him