Film Star Wars: Episode VIII

Saw it this morning. I thought the plot was meh. Didn't see the point of Maz's involvement. At least Rey's "family" and "background" wasn't as predictable as it might have been, the way they set it up.
 
Rey goes to the island to look for help but when did she get magical powers?I only remember a scene with her "training" with the sword and later suddenly she can move rocks. Did It happen in the previous movie?maybe I didn't watch It too carefully.
The same with Leia being in the outer space.I thought that she was human,not able to guide her body back to the starship.
Not the biggest fan but I liked it.,more than the VII.I like the characters of the pilot and Ren.
The scenes in the island were a bit boring and spent too many minutes in the ship.
I would add more secondary stories (as the Planet with the casino) and although probably its inherent to the saga I am a bit tired of Jedis,the force,Luke and fights with laser swords.
:lol: Sorry my man but that's like watching a Western movie and saying I am tired of all the shooting and cowboy's & Indians in these movies. In my opinion the whole Casino storyline with Finn and the girl was the worst part of the movie as it felt completely out of place.

Anyway my thoughts on the film.

It is certainly a very different Star Wars movie, in fact, the tone of the movie reminded me of Rogue One. The Leia in space scene was just downright ridiculous, killing Snoke without any background story was equally dumb. Kylo Ren being the main villain now for the next one just doesn't inspire me with confidence. A major disappointment Luke is gone as well as Han but I'll get over that. Plot was quite interesting although the Casino storyline felt very misplaced. Still many unanswered questions which hopefully will be clarified in the final Episode. The main issue however, is the fact TFA is almost entirely dismissed.



Overall I still had a good time, some very touching moments throughout the movie, probably more so than usual in Star Wars. Thought the dialogue was excellent, humour was a bit unnecessary at times but it didn't distract me from the overall plot. The opening action scene was superb I do have to admit. Some very rememberable scenes but felt it lacked some action compared to the Force Awakens.

That scene where Kylo Ren stops that blast midair and Rey using the force to snatch that lightsaber from Kylo was just feckin amazing!

I hope the final chapter brings back some more badass lightsaber scenes which I did miss In the last Jedi :D:D:D

7/10
 
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Finally watched it. Better than I expected it to be after reading the internet.

The only thing I didn't like is that they killed the wrong Skywalker. They should have just killed Leia instead considering that she won't be in the new movie anyway. I think that Luke was underpowered, despite his badass moment in the end of the movie.

My Snoke = Darth Plagueis and Rey = Luke or Leia's daughter predictions were totally wrong, though I like how Ren killed Snoke. The moment Snoke started giving his speech I knew what was going to happen. With Darth Plagueis music in the Snoke throne scene, we could probably assume that he is Plagueis, but I don't think that it will ever be relieved. Poor guy though, being betrayed and 'killed' from someone as powerful and wise as Palpatine is okayish, but being killed from a punk like Kylo Ren...

Anyway, it sucks to see Luke being killed, but otherwise it was a good movie. Saying that, the entire trilogy doesn't make much sense in the context of the Star Wars lore. It pretty much dismisses everything happening in the original trilogy.
 
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Snoke had to go just like Luke did.

It's a rebirth to make way for a new generation of greener jedi's which brings the franchise to some unchartered territory. I think its a good direction, anything else would feel like a broken record.
 
Finally watched it. Better than I expected it to be after reading the internet.

The only thing I didn't like is that they killed the wrong Skywalker. They should have just killed Leia instead considering that she won't be in the new movie anyway. I think that Luke was underpowered, despite his badass moment in the end of the movie.

My Snoke = Darth Plagueis and Rey = Luke or Leia's daughter predictions were totally wrong, though I like how Ren killed Snoke. The moment Snoke started giving his speech I knew what was going to happen.

Anyway, it sucks to see Luke being killed, but otherwise it was a good movie. Saying that, the entire trilogy doesn't make much sense in the context of the Star Wars lore. It pretty much dismisses everything happening in the original trilogy.

Tbf that theory could still technically be true, this film just happened to have zero interest in it.
 
Tbf that theory could still technically be true, this film just happened to have zero interest in it.
Yeah, I guess they will finally decide to make a book showing that Snoke is Darth Plagueis. Unless Johnon was really trolling with the Plagueis music, and with his interview. Sure, he said in the end 'that he isn't saying that Snoke is Plagueis' after he said 'that if Sonke gave a 30 second speech that he is Plagueis, Rey would have said 'who'.'
 
Anyway, my ordering of the movies from best to worst would be:

1) The Empire Strikes Back
2) A New Hope

3) Revenge of the Sith

4) Rogue One
5) Return of the Jedi
6) The Lost Jedi
7) The Force Awakens

8) The Phantom Menace
9) The Sand in the Clones

The new trilogy is slightly better than the prequel one, but is less Star Wars, at parts being total fan fiction. I think that I am going to rewatch the prequels decades from now, but most likely I will forget about this trilogy when is done. Good movies, but they don't have too much place in Star Wars lore.
 
To be fair, filming concluded before Carrie Fisher died, and you can't just write her out of it in post. Plus, the moment between Leia and Luke at the end was great.

I'm totally on board with Luke's death to be honest (I very much wasn't whilst sat in the cinema :lol:), it was as heroic an end as possible whilst preventing it from turning into his story or fan fiction. I also love that the coda shows it already slipping into legend.

Mockers mentioned this guy earlier as someone who isn't a (complete) shill so checked him out and I agree with much of this (and he calls out the Mary Sue bullshit which earns extra points)

 
Snoke had to go just like Luke did.

It's a rebirth to make way for a new generation of greener jedi's which brings the franchise to some unchartered territory. I think its a good direction, anything else would feel like a broken record.
Snoke was only introduced in the last film, so why did he 'have to go'?
 
feck Disney. They should change title to Diversity Wars instead
 
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Snoke was only introduced in the last film, so why did he 'have to go'?
Probably from the perspective that the story is about Rey & Ren, and that they want to make a more expanded universe outside of the skywalkers at a later time.
 
For the record, I had no issues with diversity in this movie.
Rebels were supposed to be from all parts of the galaxy, having some diversity in their humans doesn't 'not make sense' for me.
I did, as I mentioned, not like the casino part either. More because I wanted to see more of Rey and Luke than looking at some people look for a guy at a earth-like place.
 
To be fair, filming concluded before Carrie Fisher died, and you can't just write her out of it in post. Plus, the moment between Leia and Luke at the end was great.

I'm totally on board with Luke's death to be honest (I very much wasn't whilst sat in the cinema :lol:), it was as heroic an end as possible whilst preventing it from turning into his story or fan fiction. I also love that the coda shows it already slipping into legend.

Mockers mentioned this guy earlier as someone who isn't a (complete) shill so checked him out and I agree with much of this (and he calls out the Mary Sue bullshit which earns extra points)


I had seen online that the movie was a bit of a lefty film, might give it a watch after this review.
 
What the feck are you on about :lol:
I thought he was making an Infinity War pun for a minute, then I realised that the Marvel movies are the place to go if you only want to see white men having the bulk of the power. Bloody Disney! BE CLEAR WITH YOUR POLITICAL AGENDA IN FILMS DAMMIT.
 
What the feck are you on about :lol:

Finn, Poe, Rose, I have no idea why they had so many screen time. Their subplots were pointless are it gets.
Admiral Holdo, Captain Phasma also were just there because of feminism.

Lucas' SWs were always about Skywalkers. I don't mind Disney expand the universe for new generation but this is just dumb.
 
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I thought he was making an Infinity War pun for a minute, then I realised that the Marvel movies are the place to go if you only want to see white men having the bulk of the power. Bloody Disney! BE CLEAR WITH YOUR POLITICAL AGENDA IN FILMS DAMMIT.

Weird aliens - no worries
The force, basically magic - all good fam
Foreign people - NO THATS MENTAL FUK U DIZNEE
 
Finn, Poe, Rose, I have no idea why they have so many screen time. Their subplots are pointless are it gets.
Admiral Holdo, Captain Phasma also are just there because of feminism.

Lucas' SWs were always about Skywalkers. I don't mind Disney expand the universe for new audiences but this is just dumb.

Why would it be any different if the characters were white or the women were men? It doesn’t impact their characters in any way.

Admiral Holdo is the absolute best anyway.
 
Finn, Poe, Rose, I have no idea why they had so many screen time. Their subplots were pointless are it gets.
Admiral Holdo, Captain Phasma also were just there because of feminism.

Lucas' SWs were always about Skywalkers. I don't mind Disney expand the universe for new generation but this is just dumb.
Finn's was about finding something to fight for, rather than run away from. Becoming a rebel, in short. Rose was the person that got him there. Culminating in the scene with Phasma, tying back into the first film.
Poe's was about moving beyond flyboy heroics and becoming a leader. Holdo (and Leia) got him there. Culminating in the scene of Leia telling the last rebels to follow him, not her.

Now I didn't like every choice made in those subplots, occasionally too on the nose and occasionally dropping into very bad, awkward CGI. But they aren't pointless by any definition, they're putting the characters in the position they need to be for the final episode in the trilogy.
 
Now I didn't like every choice made in those subplots, occasionally too on the nose and occasionally dropping into very bad, awkward CGI. But they aren't pointless by any definition, they're putting the characters in the position they need to be for the final episode in the trilogy.
Sure they said that in TFA too, how did it turn out?
Johnson isn't going to direct the final episode, JJ Abram is. Both of them had different visions and you could clearly tell there were some disconnections between TFA and TLJ.

I'm talking about standalone movie, their subplots are pointless and raise a few question marks when you actually think about it... You could erase them from TLJ and things wouldn't change much.
 
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Yea sure they said that in TFA too, how it turned out?
Johnson isn't going to direct the final episode, JJ Abram is. Both of them had different visions and you could clearly see there were some disconnections between TFA and TLJ.

I'm talking about standalone movie, their subplots are pointless and raise a few question marks when you actually think about it... You could erase them from TLJ and things wouldn't change much.

Not every plotline has to be materially essential to one particular through line to add value to the film.

For example, in Finn's storyline we saw one of the trilogy's central characters complete an arc from stormtrooper > deserter > self proclaimed rebel. That particular plotline also underlined the "failure is a great teacher" theme that was so prominent in the film anyway. Amazingly, some filmakers tend to think things like themes and character arcs are important in good storytelling. If the film's most irrelevant subplot does that whilst also setting up potentially important characters and plotpoints for the future then it isn't all that irrelevant.
 
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Sure they said that in TFA too, how did it turn out?
Johnson isn't going to direct the final episode, JJ Abram is. Both of them had different visions and you could clearly tell there were some disconnections between TFA and TLJ.

I'm talking about standalone movie, their subplots are pointless and raise a few question marks when you actually think about it... You could erase them from TLJ and things wouldn't change much.
They did? Poe had zero development and not a lot of screentime in TFA. Finn becomes besotted with Rey, did you think that was the extent of his character progression?

Well for one, this isn't a standalone movie, this is the eighth film in a series and second in a trilogy. Empire doesn't make sense as a standalone movie, which is fine because it isn't one. For two, stuff happens in both subplots that progress the story, develop character and express themes. Again, not all execution was perfect by any means (I bloody hate that CGI leprechaun for one) but they have a reason to be there and connect to the rest of the film.
 
feck Disney. They should change title to Diversity Wars instead

Finn, Poe, Rose, I have no idea why they had so many screen time. Their subplots were pointless are it gets.
Admiral Holdo, Captain Phasma also were just there because of feminism.

Lucas' SWs were always about Skywalkers. I don't mind Disney expand the universe for new generation but this is just dumb.

Bloody Disney. First non-white people, then women in the army. Next they'll be treating gay people as if they actually exist.
 
20 minutes of deleted scenes from a 2 and a half hour movie? Did he think he was making episode 9 alongside it or something?
 
Finn, Poe, Rose, I have no idea why they had so many screen time. Their subplots were pointless are it gets.
Admiral Holdo, Captain Phasma also were just there because of feminism.

Lucas' SWs were always about Skywalkers. I don't mind Disney expand the universe for new generation but this is just dumb.

Something is definitely dumb.
 
Finn, Poe, Rose, I have no idea why they had so many screen time. Their subplots were pointless are it gets.
Admiral Holdo, Captain Phasma also were just there because of feminism.

Lucas' SWs were always about Skywalkers. I don't mind Disney expand the universe for new generation but this is just dumb.

Rose and the Chinese empire staff early on are just so thst they can enter Chinese market.

The government there really loves it when they put a few chinese faces there.
 
Rose and the Chinese empire staff early on are just so thst they can enter Chinese market.

The government there really loves it when they put a few chinese faces there.

Kelly Tan (The actress playing Rose) was born of Vietnamese immigrants who went to the US after the war there.
 
Kelly Tan (The actress playing Rose) was born of Vietnamese immigrants who went to the US after the war there.

Unfortunately, most of the folks who only want to see white people in movies aren't bothered by facts.
 
Yeah, I guess they will finally decide to make a book showing that Snoke is Darth Plagueis. Unless Johnon was really trolling with the Plagueis music, and with his interview. Sure, he said in the end 'that he isn't saying that Snoke is Plagueis' after he said 'that if Sonke gave a 30 second speech that he is Plagueis, Rey would have said 'who'.'

Isn't he the one could resurrect himself? I've never read any of the books, I think there is one on Plagueis. Wouldn't just be the characters the audience would be just as confused unless you've read that book most people watching would think, who?

I don't know how you come back from being chopped in half. The way Rian Johnson brings it up sounds like it might have been the plan or could still be.
 
Isn't he the one could resurrect himself? I've never read any of the books, I think there is one on Plagueis. Wouldn't just be the characters the audience would be just as confused unless you've read that book most people watching would think, who?

I don't know how you come back from being chopped in half. The way Rian Johnson brings it up sounds like it might have been the plan or could still be.
Not resurrect himself, more like finding a cure to aging and by extension death.

Book goes into background of his story, but his ability to cheat death was mentioned by Palpatine in Revenge of the Sith. Palps gives hints to Anakin that he killed Plagueis (later confirmed on the book) and got his secrets so he could help Anakin to save Padme (which obviously wasn't ever on Palps plans).