This is true. I really wanted to see Luke chop some people down with a lightsaber.
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This is true. I really wanted to see Luke chop some people down with a lightsaber.
Oh Star Wars what have you done. This trilogy is fecked.
It could have been so easy. All we wanted to see was Luke train the next generation of Jedi, the rebuilding of the new republic with Leia as leader, etc etc.
This is why you didn’t like the film. It isn’t allowed to do something different
Interesting. Without having seen the new film (until Wednesday)
my ranking would probably be:
1. The Empire Strikes Back
2. Star Wars
3/4. Return of the Jedi/The Force Awakens
5/6. Rogue 1/Revenge of the Sith
...
...
7/8. The Phantom Menace/Attack of the Clones
So that makes me look forward to Wednesday all the more.
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I think the whole thing would be received better if the new characters really were interesting enough to take over.
Killing Snoke was a stupid idea, showing Leia like that was too (couldn't they have just used battle meditation or something? 1000x more believable). It just isn't going to develop Ren having him kill a master that we don't care about and having Luke just end up emo like his old man then having a far lesser redemption than deserved all over a situation we still don't really understand.
Unless (and these are mild theories, but spoiled just incase):
I didn't hate it, it's all just very meh. I completely don't buy this "oh it's different" line either, there are loads of ways they could have gone. If it's a middle film and it all makes sense with further twists, then that's all well and good. But then this film will literally just be filler plus some cool scenes, and is that really enough?
Killing Snoke was a stupid idea, showing Leia like that was too (couldn't they have just used battle meditation or something? 1000x more believable). It just isn't going to develop Ren having him kill a master that we don't care about and having Luke just end up emo like his old man then having a far lesser redemption than deserved all over a situation we still don't really understand.
Unless (and these are mild theories, but spoiled just incase):
Snoke really is a form of Plagueis and comes back in the third, there literally is no point to any of Ren has done and nothing for him to achieve. I don't buy the whole Rey parentage stuff either.
I didn't hate it, it's all just very meh. I completely don't buy this "oh it's different" line either, there are loads of ways they could have gone. If it's a middle film and it all makes sense with further twists, then that's all well and good. But then this film will literally just be filler plus some cool scenes, and is that really enough?
“Mmm it’s salt”
I haven't even seen it, doubt I'll bother. Didn't like TFA though, so just read the spoilers for this instead. Now I don't have to.
Just watched it. Loved it. Better than the last one, for sure.
Unsurprisingly, estimated to be on course for the second biggest opening weekend ever in the US (behind TFA).
You're laughing at a movie you haven't even seen....seems fair.
I'm laughing at what apparently happens in it, yeah.
Even if TFA isn't wholly original, it is probably for me - a better film. Maybe, maybe not...TLJ clearly takes more risks, but theres just so much frustration with it, and I spent half of it thinking about how annoyed I was, which I didn't with TFA as much. Although Rogue One wins that one so far - a pure shower that film.
I like that both Isaac and Driver were mostly allowed to shine, because they are the talent on board. There was some decent development in places for the characters, but pointless forced Disney issues like comedy that wasn't really needed, and the endless need for to pad new merchandise and then endless Blockbuster tropes just got a bit tiring.
I like that both Isaac and Driver were mostly allowed to shine, because they are the talent on board. There was some decent development in places for the characters, but pointless forced Disney issues like comedy that wasn't really needed, and the endless need for to pad new merchandise and then endless Blockbuster tropes just got a bit tiring.
Went last night. First film I have been to watch this year in the cinema, which shows how important Star Wars is in my life as a kid growing up in the 80's
Some good bits, Luke was decent in this film. Absolutely cant stand the actress who plays Ray. Like a wooden spoon. The actress in Rogue One was much much better
Not gonna give any spoilers away. Give it 7/10
Some good bits, Luke was decent in this film. Absolutely cant stand the actress who plays Ray. Like a wooden spoon. The actress in Rogue One was much much better
Not gonna give any spoilers away. Give it 7/10
Same for me. But I am not a Star wars fan to be honest, Empire strikes back is the only Star wars movie I would rate more than 7/10. TFA, I found to be worse than this movie, a complete rehash of ANH and an exercise in allowing fans to indulge in nostalgia porn. But I do believe they have a villain problem -
Snoke was a terrible villain to begin with. Kylo Ren could have been great but they had Rey beat him (albeit when he was somewhat injured) without any training whatsoever. Army commander has been made to look like a joke. I think they overpowered Rey way too much. Just compare it to ESB where Vader schools Luke to establish himself as a great villain going into the final movie. Currently, given we have already seen Rey beat and at worst match Kylo, it is hard to take him as any kind of serious threat, Resurrecting Snoke would be even worse IMO.
For me.....
1 - The Empire Strikes Back
2 - Return Of The Jedi
3 - New Hope
4 - Rogue One
5- Pantom Menace
6 - The rest shit
1 - The Empire Strikes Back
2 - Return Of The Jedi
3 - New Hope
4 - Rogue One
5- Pantom Menace
6 - The rest shit
I just went and did the exact same thing and feel the same way
I also hated TFA, although I did really like Rogue 1 last year.
The movie was great dont know what the feck you lot are moaning about
Really liked it, largely because I thought it followed it's own "let the past die" ethos.
It also helps that (apparently unlike some here) I generally find the characters to be very likeable. Plus more Oscar Isaacs is no bad thing.
In particular, having Rey's parents be nobodies (as opposed to all the talk of her "obviously" being a Skywalker) and treating Snoke as a nobody by dispatching him and have Ren take centre stage were both refreshing moves.
In general, I thought that this was happy to be it's own film rather than try to ape the originals in the way TFA did. I rather took against Rogue One (probably unfairly) as I couldn't get past the idea that it was fan service, with moments like Vader's appearance at the end basically giving fanboys exactly what they wanted from the movie. Whereas this film seemed happy to do what it wanted with the characters, even if it wasn't what fanboys might expect. Luke immediately tossing away the lightsabre that took a whole movie to get to him sort of typified the films attitude. I also think this is partly why the film has divided people so much. In some ways it's probably the least Star Wars-y Star Wars film.
In general, I thought that this was happy to be it's own film rather than try to ape the originals in the way TFA did. I rather took against Rogue One (probably unfairly) as I couldn't get past the idea that it was fan service, with moments like Vader's appearance at the end basically giving fanboys exactly what they wanted from the movie. Whereas this film seemed happy to do what it wanted with the characters, even if it wasn't what fanboys might expect. Luke immediately tossing away the lightsabre that took a whole movie to get to him sort of typified the films attitude. I also think this is partly why the film has divided people so much. In some ways it's probably the least Star Wars-y Star Wars film.
It also helps that (apparently unlike some here) I generally find the characters to be very likeable. Plus more Oscar Isaacs is no bad thing.
Had a look on Reddit there is a thread getting the users to divebomb the audience score.
Mockney said it a few pages back (I know point was on youtube reviews) but these guys tend either be too positive or too negative. 20% are 0/10 scores. Even if you don't like the film you can't say its that score.
Cinemascore (like an official polling system, verifies voters have seen the movie and how they enjoyed it), has just published the audience. It gets an "A" audience rating.
Cinemascore gave Daddy's Home 2 an A-. Can't trust anyone
I'm a bit disappointed as well, but the hate the movie seems to be receiving is certainly weird. It's ott.
I would go as far to say the Leia moment was the worst thing I’ve ever seen in a Star Wars movie
I can’t get over how bad it looked and why they did it at all.
It was that and how bad some of the jokes where, and how pointless some of the new characters were and those fecking caretakers in Luke’s island.... also really disliked the casino place too
I do want to see it again though. Was left with such a bad taste I want to force myself to like the movie
I can’t get over how bad it looked and why they did it at all.
It was that and how bad some of the jokes where, and how pointless some of the new characters were and those fecking caretakers in Luke’s island.... also really disliked the casino place too
I do want to see it again though. Was left with such a bad taste I want to force myself to like the movie
More or less sums up my own feelings about it. I enjoyed (almost) every minute. All the main characters were well acted and thoroughly watchable. Cracking effects and banging set-pieces. Just a classic popcorn blockbuster. With enough retro nudges and winks to keep an old man happy. Genuinely surprised at any negativity. On here, or anywhere else.
Basically this.
I suspect that's just because it's fresh in your mind. In all honesty, would you still be saying that if this was the film where Jar Jar made his first appearance, for example?
Not much of a retcon though if you think back to a New Hope they made it pretty damn clear that she was there actually looking to contact Obi-wan. I mean the whole message that C3PO was carrying was Leia asking for Obi-wans help.
Are you though? This is the internet. I've seen a comment stating that "feminism has ruined Star Wars," which truly made my day.
Imagine being in a galaxy with a population in probably the 100's of billions and where it seems not everyone knew who Darth Vader really was.....then yeah you probably could hide out under your real name. Especially when Darth thought you were dead and nobody was looking for you at all.
No surprising the message ended up on the same planet since even without Rogue One it should have been obvious she was there looking for Obi-wan.
Don't forget all that PC diversity too.
Not sure but I cringed so badly at that Leia moment. I think it just runined the entire movie for me
Yeah but, he was living in pretty much the same place that mini-Anakin had lived, with someone angsty-Anakin had met. Putting a lot of faith in the old double bluff there. I mean it's a plot contrivance put in before Lucas had come up with the fatherhood twist, it doesn't spoil the movie or anything (it makes the setup in the prequels pretty dumb but there you go) - that post was just part of a discussion about TFA not really being out of the ordinary in terms of Star Wars plots and contrivances.
And SO MUCH Disney paranoia. Christ, if you walk out of that thinking the plot was dictated by Disney...
You’re being generous to Phantom Menace. For me Revenge of the Sith was better, although the light sabre battle in episode I was one of the best in the series.
Anakin didn't like sand. Obi-Wan hid him on a planet full of sand. It was genius!
Just got back from the cinema and I really enjoyed it.
Good movie looking forward to the next part.
Good movie looking forward to the next part.
Feck, that completely went over my head! Lucas being way too subtle for me there.
Just got back from the movie and I thoroughly enjoyed it! I am biased because I have loved Star Wars since I was 5 years old watching the original in the theatre.
While I would have done a few things differently and I personally dislike when Disney throws 2017 pop culture references into science fiction movies that take place "a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away" overall it was a very fun Star Wars movie that succeeds with its target audience - families.
I think some old timers like myself have this expectation that Star Wars would grow up with us. But it never will. We aren't going to see a truly dark Rated R wicked intense Star Wars movie (at least not anytime soon). So even if I personally would love if Star Wars was rated R and as gritty as Game of Thrones that would just be an unreasonable expectation on my part.
I also can't take any critics or user review sites seriously especially that silly Rotten Tomoatoes site. I stop visiting that site when I saw how overrated that Fury Road movie was. Only movie I actually walked out of the theatre after paying good money because I felt the plotholes and world building were so flawed and illogical I couldn't stand sitting there finishing that bad movie. But apparently Rotten Tomateoes thought that movie was Citizen Kane level
While I would have done a few things differently and I personally dislike when Disney throws 2017 pop culture references into science fiction movies that take place "a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away" overall it was a very fun Star Wars movie that succeeds with its target audience - families.
I think some old timers like myself have this expectation that Star Wars would grow up with us. But it never will. We aren't going to see a truly dark Rated R wicked intense Star Wars movie (at least not anytime soon). So even if I personally would love if Star Wars was rated R and as gritty as Game of Thrones that would just be an unreasonable expectation on my part.
I also can't take any critics or user review sites seriously especially that silly Rotten Tomoatoes site. I stop visiting that site when I saw how overrated that Fury Road movie was. Only movie I actually walked out of the theatre after paying good money because I felt the plotholes and world building were so flawed and illogical I couldn't stand sitting there finishing that bad movie. But apparently Rotten Tomateoes thought that movie was Citizen Kane level
Obi Wan hid luke, not anikin
Yeah to hide him from Anakin