Sofyan Amrabat | signs for United on loan

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Seems like he's saying similar to Pedulla. Can't translate the tweet @mazhar13 ?


Looks like Salt Bailly took care of the translation itself.

Given how we've played Mainoo against Arsenal, I'm not surprised to see us be linked to Amrabat. The only real obstacle is his preference to play in Spain, so we're likely to lose out on him should one of the big La Liga clubs come calling.
 
His defensive stats really do seem strange. They make him look like Pirlo but he looks all action on the few occassions I've seen him.

I also checked his 21/22 stats in Serie A and he looks worryingly low in interceptions, tackles, clearances and aerial duels.

Maybe its team specific but he doesn't read like a Casemiro alternative on paper.
 
He seems to have similar attributes to Mainoo
 
Will be great to have proper cover for Casemiro, and could even allow Case to go forward more.

For tough away games, a midfield of Amrabat, Casemiro and Bruno/Mount is a much tougher prospect for opponents.
 
The key upside here is that he'd be a big improvement technically on either Fred and McTominay. And whatever about arguments about where, how or with who he'd play, from a squad make-up perspective that's a move in the right direction.
 
Was really impressed with Morocco in last WC. Surprised that clubs with limited budget wouldn't all over their players more.
 
I mean it’s pretty obvious ETH wants us to be a lot more aggressive and in the face of our opposition.

Good signing in that regard. Can rotate with Casemiro, or play as one of the 8s.
Said at the weekend he wants us to be pressing machines.
 
He probably wouldn't be my personal choice for squad optimisation reasons. Would ideally like someone a little younger for succession planning purposes. That being said, he's a very good profile for us in that he's fairly press resistant and is a good high volume forward passer and carrier in midfield. Very different to Casemiro but this midfield may actually be able to retain posession so a Casemiro type won't be needed in all our games. Also, the rise of Mainoo could address the succession issues.
 
The key upside here is that he'd be a big improvement technically on either Fred and McTominay. And whatever about arguments about where, how or with who he'd play, from a squad make-up perspective that's a move in the right direction.
Spot on. For the reported price, this is a low risk high reward type of deal imo.



Tweet below retweeted by Pedulla.



 
Why would you be surprised? Seems quite obvious this one is happening.
Because money and squad numbers. Buying someone without even a soft plan to sell the player they are replacing (McTominay is who is being replaced) is not something we ever do. Latest news on him was that we would let him go for 30-40m which nobody was interested in, so it seemed like he was just staying. I don't think we sign Amrabat if he stays, and given other issues, I don't think we sign another mid while we have Donny and McTominay here (and Fred still) before addressing other issues. I'd imagine CB is next after CF.
 
Back to Mbappe thread…


Isn't the guy reporting this as done dealio more 'tier 1' than Romano, at least when it comes to North African football? Unless it's a case of 'deal done' with the player being conflated with 'deal done with Fiorentina'...
 
Henderson and Elanga pretty much pay for this…Henderson will be gone as soon as we sort out back up keeper. This should be outside of our striker acquisition.

It’s said he prefers to go to Spain, it defo won’t be Real as they are well stacked and Barca have no money. Possibly Athletico but I’d be surprised if we went for someone that hasn’t given the thumbs up to ETH already.

He would be a great addition to the squad and would definitely add some bite.
 
None of those players are first phase players within the positional play principles and should be moved on. So it's very logical that someone like Amrabat is brought in to raise the level in possession in a deeper role. He's comfortable playing the hybrid #6/#8 role and it would raise the technical floor of the collective imo. And his price tag will likely be very reasonable as well.
Agree with all that. We still own these players and we aren't Chelsea where we stockpile players and open a 2nd changing room. Don't think we have the finances to buy players like this and then push all of our current guys out on loan either if we can't sell. Just feels like we are simply stuck with what we have until we actually have a buyer for McTominay, Fred and Van de Beek. We've already replaced Fred without selling him in Mount, I don't think we keep making signings until we sell midfielders.
 
Would be surprised. Only logic I could see is if we actually are selling all of Fred (probably yes), Donny (50/50) AND McTominay (doubtful?).
I think Fred and Donny are gone.

That leaves 4 CMs: Mount, Bruno, Amrabat, Eriksen

And 2 DMs: Casemiro, McTominay

6 players for 3 places is fine. Only thing is that it would mean a loan for Mainoo. I don't think Kobbie is ready for the first team at the moment and Scott is the only other midfielder apart from Case who gives us any steel at DM. So it would make sense to do things that way around.
 
Isn't the guy reporting this as done dealio more 'tier 1' than Romano, at least when it comes to North African football? Unless it's a case of 'deal done' with the player being conflated with 'deal done with Fiorentina'...
The Moroccan reporter seems to have reported the same thing that Pedullà later reported, which is that Amrabat is open to joining Manchester United (albeit in a more hyped-up, extravagant manner). Keep in mind that we aren't his first choice; should a top La Liga club come calling (e.g. Barcelona), Amrabat will choose them over United.
 
Henderson and Elanga pretty much pay for this…Henderson will be gone as soon as we sort out back up keeper. This should be outside of our striker acquisition.

It’s said he prefers to go to Spain, it defo won’t be Real as they are well stacked and Barca have no money. Possibly Athletico but I’d be surprised if we went for someone that hasn’t given the thumbs up to ETH already.

He would be a great addition to the squad and would definitely add some bite.
The Spanish clubs outside of Real are terribly skint and have been the lowest spenders out of the big 5 leagues.

Highly doubt any of them make a move, Barcelona are already quite deep at the position and have their hands tied currently financially.

Think if the fee is reasonable, as it sounds, he won't take much convincing to join up with the man who gave him his senior pro debut at a club like United.

By today's reports he's already made his mind up, just need to come to an agreement on the fee with Fiorentina.
 
The Moroccan reporter seems to have reported the same thing that Pedullà later reported, which is that Amrabat is open to joining Manchester United (albeit in a more hyped-up, extravagant manner). Keep in mind that we aren't his first choice; should a top La Liga club come calling (e.g. Barcelona), Amrabat will choose them over United.
Has this been reported somewhere? I think I've missed it.
 
Agree with all that. We still own these players and we aren't Chelsea where we stockpile players and open a 2nd changing room. Don't think we have the finances to buy players like this and then push all of our current guys out on loan either if we can't sell. Just feels like we are simply stuck with what we have until we actually have a buyer for McTominay, Fred and Van de Beek. We've already replaced Fred without selling him in Mount, I don't think we keep making signings until we sell midfielders.
I agree we need to move players on and hopefully Fred leaving will open up a opportunity to sign someone like Amrabat.
 
I think Fred and Donny are gone.

That leaves 4 CMs: Mount, Bruno, Amrabat, Eriksen

And 2 DMs: Casemiro, McTominay

6 players for 3 places is fine. Only thing is that it would mean a loan for Mainoo. I don't think Kobbie is ready for the first team at the moment and Scott is the only other midfielder apart from Case who gives us any steel at DM. So it would make sense to do things that way around.
Yeah, that would be pretty good. This would probably be our best selection of midfielders since the late 00's.
 
His defensive stats really do seem strange. They make him look like Pirlo but he looks all action on the few occassions I've seen him.

I also checked his 21/22 stats in Serie A and he looks worryingly low in interceptions, tackles, clearances and aerial duels.

Maybe its team specific but he doesn't read like a Casemiro alternative on paper.

Casemiro alternatives don't really exist though, there's a reason the guy is a GOAT level DM. You don't generally find someone that elite at shielding/destroying that's also as techincally gifted as he is. So your options then become someone a bit less destructive off the ball but quality on it, or a pure workhorse defensive mid that's not going to do much other than pass it sideways when he receives possession.
 
I think Fred and Donny are gone.

That leaves 4 CMs: Mount, Bruno, Amrabat, Eriksen

And 2 DMs: Casemiro, McTominay

6 players for 3 places is fine. Only thing is that it would mean a loan for Mainoo. I don't think Kobbie is ready for the first team at the moment and Scott is the only other midfielder apart from Case who gives us any steel at DM. So it would make sense to do things that way around.

Except he's not a DM
 
I’m sorry but I’m not believing that we’re going after this guy before a striker. It’s all nonsense. Hojlund remains our priority and maybe Amrabat if we sell Fred/mctominay. Don’t even know how good Amrabat is or isn’t. Only seen him in a handful of games for Morocco at the World Cup. If we’re getting another midfielder though I’d be tempted to go and get that youngster from Celta Vigo.
 
I think Fred and Donny are gone.

That leaves 4 CMs: Mount, Bruno, Amrabat, Eriksen

And 2 DMs: Casemiro, McTominay

6 players for 3 places is fine. Only thing is that it would mean a loan for Mainoo. I don't think Kobbie is ready for the first team at the moment and Scott is the only other midfielder apart from Case who gives us any steel at DM. So it would make sense to do things that way around.

He's not being loaned, and "steel" is overrated considering McTominay doesn't actually shield the defense well at all.

I'd assume we are selling him and Fred both, and Mainoo becomes the rotational deputy.
 
He's 18 and is a terrific talent who should be a squad option.
Agreed. How old was foden when he got called into the city team? Age doesn’t matter aslong as you have the talent and he bossed a game against a very strong Arsenal team. He’s ready to play a part next season. ETH will do what he did with Garnacho and slowly break him into the first team.
 
I’m sorry but I’m not believing that we’re going after this guy before a striker. It’s all nonsense. Hojlund remains our priority and maybe Amrabat if we sell Fred/mctominay. Don’t even know how good Amrabat is or isn’t. Only seen him in a handful of games for Morocco at the World Cup. If we’re getting another midfielder though I’d be tempted to go and get that youngster from Celta Vigo.
So no backup for Case? Why would you sign Gabri Veiga when we have Mount, Bruno, Eriksen and DvdB in the CM position?
 
Incomings: Amrabat & Mount: £80m
Casemiro / Mainoo / Bruno / Eriksen

Outgoings - Fred, McT and VdB - £55m

£25m net. Very good business if we can pull these deals off.
 
Has this been reported somewhere? I think I've missed it.
I've seen reports that La Liga is his preferred destination, but I think that's more shorthand for ' Barcelona' than generic 'any good La Liga club'. Hopefully Barca will soon lose the ability to keep inventing new 'levers' from whole cloth with impunity, as has been reported, whereby their grotesque debt and contravening of FFP is second only to City's blatant skullduggery (or Juve's, although that's a slightly different kind of shenanigans) and become unable to just keep hoovering up players, though they will keep on being a 'name' and trading on the whole 'more than a club' thing..
 
I’m sorry but I’m not believing that we’re going after this guy before a striker. It’s all nonsense. Hojlund remains our priority and maybe Amrabat if we sell Fred/mctominay. Don’t even know how good Amrabat is or isn’t. Only seen him in a handful of games for Morocco at the World Cup. If we’re getting another midfielder though I’d be tempted to go and get that youngster from Celta Vigo.
Gabri Veiga? He's not a midfielder we need because he plays higher up the pitch and would be competing for a place with Bruno and Mount. We need a midfielder who is comfortable operating in the deeper areas of midfield and provides a high level of technical security in possession.
 


Alfredo Pedulla: "Not only Rasmus Hojlund, Manchester United are also looking for a midfielder. And he spotted it in Sofyan Amrabat . After what has been said in recent days, we can add that contacts are increasingly active and that important steps were taken during the day as well. Amrabat said yes to the transfer, now the Red Devils have to make some exits but they have also bet on the Moroccan. It can be done for a base of 22-25 million plus bonuses to get to 30. We are not at the definitive agreements, but it is a hot lead and one to follow."
 
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