Bondi77
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Because Varane is available for every gameWhy the feck couldn’t we sanction the Harry Meg sale?
Because Varane is available for every gameWhy the feck couldn’t we sanction the Harry Meg sale?
Does anyone know if a loan with an obligation to buy has to go on this season's books or the next?
It's not hardballing if you're genuinely skint, it's just being skint and trying to buy things you have no intention of paying for.We're hardballing everyone on the market is seems.
Seems like a cool plan, tell everyone we're skint and low ball them for players.
I like it.
Sin of the times.“Cos”. Very professional
Word count on Tweet?“Cos”. Very professional
Yes I think we are light in midfield. We have one true dm in Casemiro and no real dlp. With Amrabat we have cover and a dlp.We don't need cover, really. We have that. We need better quality of options and more skillset variety.
We arguably have 6 senior players (Bruno, Mount, Eriksen, VDB, McTominay, Casemiro) for 3 midfield positions at the moment. More if you include youngsters like Hannibal & Mainoo. Even if we drill into DMs specifically, we have 3 DMs at the club: Case, Scott and Mainoo. I don't rate Scott as DM but that's where ETH played him all of last season, so it is what it is. If Scott doesn't leave, it's hard to argue we need more DM cover. Especially when we only play with 1 DM in our default line-up.
If we're arguing that we need to improve the quality of our options, or add someone with a slightly different skillset (i.e. more DLP than DM) then yes. I would agree there. But ultimately there is only a limited number of first team players that we can register (25) and just adding players without selling creates more problems than it solves. We're in a situation where we really need to sell or loan out players to make space for new ones.
The Serie A way!It's not hardballing if you're genuinely skint, it's just being skint and trying to buy things you have no intention of paying for.
What Ducker says doesn’t really make sense to me. Buying him for 22m on a 5 year contract costs us 4.5m in terms of FFP this year. If we can loan him with a 2m plus fee it seems a bit absurd to suggest we can’t afford to buy him due to FFP. The reality is we probably we don’t want to buy him - we want him for 12 months but then Mainoo will be a year older and next summer we’ll want to sign a better DM to replace/rotate with Casemiro.
Because they were more important plus Ducker is full of shit these days. I’m not even sure that’s the profile of Amrabat on top of thatSounds reasonable. But then, why was Mount and Onana the prioritised targets?
I'd add Højlund to that list. If we were aware he had an injury that would keep him out for a few weeks, what was the rush to get it done knowing he wasn't going to be available anyway?Sounds reasonable. But then, why was Mount and Onana the prioritised targets?
FFP talk is Something I find hard to believe it's more likely as you have mentioned we simply don't want to Commit to any thing more than a year at the moment for Amrabat preferably a deal with an option should work , but I do think If Ten Hag would really insist on this then deal would get done and all the talk of FFP would be conveniently forgotten .What Ducker says doesn’t really make sense to me. Buying him for 22m on a 5 year contract costs us 4.5m in terms of FFP this year. If we can loan him with a 2m plus fee it seems a bit absurd to suggest we can’t afford to buy him due to FFP. The reality is we probably we don’t want to buy him - we want him for 12 months but then Mainoo will be a year older and next summer we’ll want to sign a better DM to replace/rotate with Casemiro.
Sounds reasonable. But then, why was Mount and Onana the prioritised targets?
You might be spot onUnless the problem is cash rather than FFP. More palatable to publicly blame FFP (rather than admit you are broke).
He’s chatting shit. A loan with an obligation to buy is accounted as buying him outright on this years accounts. It doesn’t do anything for FFP.What Ducker says doesn’t really make sense to me. Buying him for 22m on a 5 year contract costs us 4.5m in terms of FFP this year. If we can loan him with a 2m plus fee it seems a bit absurd to suggest we can’t afford to buy him due to FFP. The reality is we probably we don’t want to buy him - we want him for 12 months but then Mainoo will be a year older and next summer we’ll want to sign a better DM to replace/rotate with Casemiro.
We're hardballing everyone on the market is seems.
Seems like a cool plan, tell everyone we're skint and low ball them for players.
I like it.
I wouldn't bother with the obligation. He's fine for now, but we can set our sights higher next summer.
I wouldn't bother with the obligation. He's fine for now, but we can set our sights higher next summer.
Zero incentive. I just don't see the point in us digging an even bigger hole for ourselves and being compromised into signing a player who will prevent us from signing someone better a year from now.But where’s the incentive for Fiorentina? They are only happy to loan him on the proviso that they get £25 million from us next summer.
Because we need them too? A new GK was top priority but a Eriksen replacement/Bruno understudy was high up on the list too.
I think ETH expected Mount to be more versatile but all he had to do was ask any England fan who has watched him stink up every tournament.
Couldn't agree more. Unless Saudi come calling next season, he's going to be a nightmare to move on with the wages that he's on.Not likely they will loan him without one. We should keep him next summer and replace Casemiro
I'd much rather just keep Casemiro, with Mainoo as his deputy. If that doesn't work, then sign a long term Casemiro replacement.Not likely they will loan him without one. We should keep him next summer and replace Casemiro
Never a truer word spoken. And it’s mad - it’s not that we didn’t have the money to spend - it’s that we spent it on the wrong players - Sancho, Antony, Casemiro, Mount cumulatively cost €250million - regardless of opinions or views, none represent good value or clear planning. It’s really irritating.
Also, even if you forget about those top tier players. Look at some of the other transfers these last 2 windows that we seemingly were not interested in -
nunes €38million to wolves
Vitinha€40 million to psg
Botman €37 million to newcastle
Viera €35million to Arsenal
Onana €35million to Everton
Gravenberch €20million to Bayern
Gusto€30million to Chelsea
Akanji €17million to City
Torres €33million to Villa - Fuking Villa
Kudus€45 million to Fuking west ham
KOVACIC €30 million
my god we get mugged for the wrong players. It’s like we need to buy big to prove we can instead of just using logic.
there is value - we are just not interested - wrong place, wrong player, wrong time.
We've 3rd in net transfer expenditure this summer and only 16mil off being the top of that list.
It isn't money holding us back its decision making. We've signed 3 expensive players this summer which is rare for any window.
We desperately needed a top level CM and the failure to sign one is embarrasing. We should never have wasted the money on Casemiro, who will need replacing by end of season, and Antony is a joke. Why we didnt look at a player like Maddison to replace Eriksen is beyond me
Dear LordI think it is time for Ten Hag to pack his bags. This is not going to end well.
I think it is time for Ten Hag to pack his bags. This is not going to end well.