It could be part of carrying out the threat.
Social Media Justice: A "Karen" faces consequences for threatening a Black man with cops
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It could be part of carrying out the threat.
If someone says to me "I'm gonna do what I want but you're not gonna like it" and then wants to give a treat to my dog, I'm not letting that happen either. In this context and circumstances, it could be perceived as a threat yeah. Just a bit weird how he worded the whole thing tbh.
Not an excuse for her behavior, obviously.
Nor i.
Id leash my dog and go the other way.
Maybe as a woman by myself i ring the police and say i think a man is threatening to poisin my dog.
If she did either of those 2 things, there is no issue here.
Agree with much of what you've said mate. The woman is probably a moron - I say probably because I don't fecking know her. None of us do. What she said was pretty awful, granted, but you raise a good point that perhaps there is some validity to her assertion that she felt threatened. His choice of words were stupid, as was his decision to produce some unknown object for the dog. Did she know what it was? Perhaps she truly did feel threatened...
According to HIS account they were having what reads as a relatively reasonable conversion (one which he was entirely in the right) until he dropped the line 'I'm going to do what I want to do and you're not going to like it' then called her dog to him with treats...
I'm not shocked she called the police for help and neither should he if thought about it. A lot of women who were on their own with a stranger in a park after feeling threatened. So actually saying something that sounds like a threat is going to cause problems. The guy seems like a nice man so I genuinely think he was oblivious to her perception of the situation and possibly still is.
Again, not an excuse for her to jump to using race - yes she knows that it will be perceived as adding to the urgency to her call to the police. However if you don't think he escalated things with his actions and caused her to freak out and involve the police I'm not sure you care to understand the nuances.
On the 'victim blaming' point, in the UK we have a concept of split liability so an accident may be one persons fault or both in any apportionment. It's way too simplistic to always say one person is 100% right and the other 100% wrong. In this incident the public interest is entirely in the dog being off the leash (admittedly a local issue) and using the police to manage the situation. Which now more information has come out we can see that he contributed to her need for assistance, which is legitimate given the perceived threat, though clearly she used his race both as a means to intimidate him and try to create urgency with the police which is both clear racism and criticism and social consequences are warranted for that.
I would just suggest to every man to be careful approaching women on their own in a park, especially if you end up going some weird stuff like saying 'I'm going to do what I want and you're not going to like it'.
On the other hand, she may have realised she overstepped and produced some excuse - that is also possible. Point is, I don't know, nor do I really believe it's my place to fecking demand her vilification online. What I find most vile - far more vile than her comments - is the public demand for blood. Why do people plead for this woman to lose her job a result of this? Why do people want her to literally suffer? Why take pleasure in that? There are a lot pricks out there, many of them in high-paying jobs, managing many staff beneath them. If it is a desire for a truly just world that these twitter crusaders are after, they better fecking get to work.
To me, no one comes out of this with any grace or dignity. Sounds like some uppity knob taking offence to some idiot woman. Feck me, how ridiculously pitiful on all fronts.
Is that fb? I can't find him on it, dont tell me he's been forced to shut it down due to online trolling?
Mr. Cooper's account of the undercard for clarity.
All we really need to know is whether he’s actually a birder or simply a birdwatcher. My friends father made it very clear that there are rules around this and I hope this isn’t a case of stolen valour. If that man isn’t regularly leaving his City to find birds, he needs to check his nomenclature.
Yes I’m kidding but it is a thing
Yes I’m kidding but it is a thing
Why would you not want someone who is racist and morally wrong to lose their job? I'd much rather people like this face consequence for their actions.
More here about the prevalence of racist calls to 911 from a former police dispatcher
https://www.vox.com/first-person/20...ky-living-while-black-babysitting-while-black
https://www.vox.com/first-person/20...ky-living-while-black-babysitting-while-black
It's 2020 not the 50's or 60's.....minorities/Poc are not going take this shit anymore.
I'd be careful of making such absolutist claims. You speak like everything is either right or wrong and without any nuance.
But to specifically answer your question... Why would I want someone's life uprooted? Well, it's not like I want this woman to flourish and become more successful after this... It's just that I don't take any great pleasure in someone else's downfall. Perhaps she has kids or other dependants. I also don't believe the bloke is entirely without blame - as I said, it's not beyond the realms of possibility that, given the ridiculous phrasing of his comments, and the ambiguity of his actions, that she did perhaps feel somewhat threatened. She's a twat for bringing race into it, I acknowledge that, but it doesn't mean I want to see her suffer.
People are seemingly conflating their anger with reprehensible cops - cops that might shoot black people without cause - with the actions of this woman.
When I first read his account I thought that was weird but after thinking about it I do sometimes run into mainly old people that carry dog treats but without a dog. I assume they love dogs but can’t manage one full time. This guy just comes across as an extra nice guy.
I don't refer to him disagreeing with the race part... I refer to his twat comments about doing something she's not gonna like/producing treats for her dog.
It’s a good job she choked that dog to prevent this awful mans poison from entering its stomach. Good on her
Between 4ft 2' and 7ft 9', that guy sounds sketchy tbh.
Also that guys listening to DMX are amateurs, just insert the word "playa" in!
I always find that weird and people that are "too" friendly with a complete stranger's dog. Unless the dog comes to me, I don't try to be overly friendly.
Yes, I agree that she was in the wrong. Did you read my comment?
It's as though you can't question what he was doing without people suddenly thinking you are siding with her.
She is obviously the one at fault here, and although his actions are a little strange, her suddenly changing it into a thing to do with race, rather than putting the dog on the lead is the biggest concern I was just thinking of my own reaction had some randomer said the same things he had said.
She is obviously the one at fault here, and although his actions are a little strange, her suddenly changing it into a thing to do with race, rather than putting the dog on the lead is the biggest concern I was just thinking of my own reaction had some randomer said the same things he had said.
Nope. You pick a side quickly and hope to God you don't say anything that contradicts the general sentiment.
god damn hero
Maybe this will teach some people to act right for a change. If there's no consequences for things that could possibly threaten someone's life and in the US that;s very much the case here then people will continue doing this.
Mr. Cooper's account of the undercard for clarity.
In the context of that specific conversation, if I was Karen I would assume he was trying to poison or otherwise harm my dog. Obviously doesn’t justify her over the top response but that was a VERY odd move from him.
Yeah it was odd. I don't like people's pets off the bat, there needs to be some back and forth between me and the owner before I feel comfortable with interacting with their dog (feck cats).
I would have given him a pass for just trying to interact with my dog but to say “I can do what I want but you’re not going to like it” and then calling the dog over - while reaching into his bag - is going to put any dog owner into a bit of a panic.
It depends on the tone it's said, surely?
Written down it reads as threatening, but if its said in a light tone then it's not threatening at all.
It's amazing that the consequences for this woman will do absolutely nothing to discourage the next person to inevitably do this and ruin their life.
He did go to Harvard. Almost all of them are weirdos. Plus, Boston. Ewww.
Sorry, where did he escalate things? What threat did he issue? The dog is Amy's responsibility. If she doesn't want other people interacting with it the solution is simple: put the leash on the dog.
Another day, another video...
Karen in drive-thru uses n-word
https://tuckbot.tv/#/watch/gr2taw
I'm curious to see if anyone will defend this lady. She just wants a burger right?
Karen in drive-thru uses n-word
https://tuckbot.tv/#/watch/gr2taw
I'm curious to see if anyone will defend this lady. She just wants a burger right?
I was wondering if he might be on the spectrum? The way he memorises their conversation, verbatim, including the odd tangent he went on. Plus bird-watching. I guess we can add “went to Harvard” to the case for the prosecution.
I quite like Boston. Spend a summer there, doing an elective at TUFTS. The bits by the river are lovely. Not a fan of Bostonians though.
And she was stuck in a long line with one entire car behind her. Can't blame her, such hell.
He says he carries dog treats when he goes to the park for precisely that reason, so the dog owners will rein in their dogs to stop them from coming to him for the treat.
The tone matters, sure. If he is on the spectrum then getting the tone right would be difficult for him.
I get that. But it’s obviously not a great idea to say “I can do what I want but you won’t like it” before whipping out the treats. In general, it’s not a great idea to feed strangers dogs at all. But especially not after saying that.
Hangry racists are still racists.
I don't get it, she knew how long the line was from the beginning, burgers aren't essential and for someone hungry she has a lot of energy to waste.
Ranting and raving and calling someone the n-word because you're hungry. Come on, it's happened all of us.
Racists generally don’t seem to be the most intelligent or logical thinking ones. At least the ones that get caught on camera don’t.
Racism by its very nature isn’t a logical thing, which is why I always disagree with people that say racists should be educated, not condemned.