freeurmind
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Guys I was in the park yesterday and I didn't have my dog on the leash and some guy taught me a lesson by giving my dog some yummy treats. I was so distraught I had to call the police.
Can't understand people carrying treats to give around to random pets. Would be like me carrying out candy for random children I might spot in public. Although this chap doesn't do becuase he's a dog lover. He does it to teach people a lesson which is extremely weird. Nothing wrong with telling people off if they're doing something wrong. But that's where it should stop. IMO at least.
Why does one need to say any of this when you know for a fact that the person behaved like a racist. Where is the need to bring in political beliefs and other nonsense into the discussion?Which is absolutely typical in the way incidents like this get analysed online. Choose a villain of the piece (depending on your politics) then shout down any hint of a search for mitigation, or suggestion that your hero might have handled the situation a little differently.
It’s crazy the way so many people want an absolutely black and white, movie script version of life.
And it goes without saying that nothing I’ve said here changes the fact that - based on the short video we’ve all seen - I think the woman behaved atrociously.
It's absolutely necessary, especially with dog owners, of which I am one (Cyclists, too! @Sassy Colin ). There are plenty of things that warrant an everyday person speaking up and pointing out the detrimental action or behaviour. Bylaw enforcement officers can't act on these kind of complaints in time to be effective. It's miles from vigilantism.
Loads of people walk around with dog treats. Most of them are dog lovers. The etiquette, as I pointed out last night, is to ask before treating a strange dog but in this case, it's clear that Amy has no sense of etiquette so who cares?
Can't understand people carrying treats to give around to random pets. Would be like me carrying out candy for random children I might spot in public. Although this chap doesn't do becuase he's a dog lover. He does it to teach people a lesson which is extremely weird. Nothing wrong with telling people off if they're doing something wrong. But that's where it should stop. IMO at least.
Why though? I just find that baffling. Does one absolutely need to try several dozen thought experiments when the evidence is right in front of you?
Not sure if he's angry about Karen or Minneapolis police.
My dog goes bald if she is given the wrong food. A lot of walkers around my area carry treats just in case dogs bolt from their yards at them. They always ask though. You do have a point but the way that woman was handling that dog shows she was far more likely to be the one that poisons him than the bird watcher.The thing as well is you dont know what the treat is. Lots of foods are toxic to dogs that are not toxic to humans. I dont mind people asking about my dog when out and about. But stopping to give him treats would be a big no.
Why? Because he behaved in a strange way and I was looking for reasons to explain it. Obviously.
I’m not doing any thought experiments here. Just discussing a short video clip (and description from one of the two parties involved - we still haven’t heard her version of events) which documents some fairly shocking and difficult to explain behaviour. I’ve no idea why this offends you so much.
Funny story about treats, once, while hanging out in the pet store as we like to do on Saturdays, one of my dogs somehow convinced another customer to open the bag of treats she was purchasing and give her one.
They also have sample bags of kibble. She's become adept at removing them from the pegs and opening them. How she figured this out, I'll never know.
Funny story about treats, once, while hanging out in the pet store as we like to do on Saturdays, one of my dogs somehow convinced another customer to open the bag of treats she was purchasing and give her one.
They also have sample bags of kibble. She's become adept at removing them from the pegs and opening them. How she figured this out, I'll never know.
and choked his dog tooI hope you called the police.
Questioning someone's mental health with no prior knowledge isn't a thought experiment?
Spot the difference:Guys I was in the park yesterday and I didn't have my dog on the leash and some guy taught me a lesson by giving my dog some yummy treats. I was so distraught I had to call the police.
and choked his dog too
But not his horse, right?
I hope you called the police.
My dog goes bald if she is given the wrong food. A lot of walkers around my area carry treats just in case dogs bolt from their yards at them. They always ask though. You do have a point but the way that woman was handling that dog shows she was far more likely to be the one that poisons him than the bird watcher.
Is it too much to ask for some civility these days. A shit show of a situation that could have been non existent with a simple "ok thanks" on her part.
It's just unnecessary to take up vigilantism and get in people's faces. You can report the person if you're so uppity about it. It's not an ominous threat but as a pet owner I know that one has to constantly deal with people's nonsense at being unable to understand. The fact that he walks around with treats to take action against people is bizarre.
Of course it's nothing compared to bring a racist and trying to use race to get someone in trouble which is truly appalling behaviour.
Na, you're wrong. You don't know anything about him, not sure how speculating about his mental health isn't a thought experiment.Correct.
Na, you're wrong. You don't know anything about him, not sure how speculating about his mental health isn't a thought experiment.
You’ve an unusual definition of a thought experiment. Using your own definition, though, pretty much every post in this thread is some sort of ‘thought experiment’. Everyone is speculating about the character of people they don’t know based on a tiny fragment of their lives. If that bothers you, you’re in the wrong thread.
Pure nonsense. Calling someone Karen isn't the same thing as speculating on their mental health. If anything, there is a clear stark difference. Why you can't see the difference between them is beyond me.
Again, pure nonsense. If you can't see how speculating on someone's mental health affects their credibility in such scenarios, especially when cops are involved, then you're either unaware or just completely deluded.Your definition of mental health is as bad as your definition of a thought experiment. But we’re going in circles here so I’ll bow out.
Going only by the conversation posted here. So I maybe wrong.In the context of that specific conversation, if I was Karen I would assume he was trying to poison or otherwise harm my dog. Obviously doesn’t justify her over the top response but that was a VERY odd move from him.
Going only by the conversation posted here. So I maybe wrong.
He went straight from "politely asking her to take the dog somewhere else " to 'I will do something to your dog". And then when he saw the lady has got hysterical, he whipped out his camera and started shooting things.
She is a racist alright, but he doesn't seem like a non-confrontational guy for sure.
Going only by the conversation posted here. So I maybe wrong.
He went straight from "politely asking her to take the dog somewhere else " to 'I will do something to your dog". And then when he saw the lady has got hysterical, he whipped out his camera and started shooting things.
She is a racist alright, but he doesn't seem like a non-confrontational guy for sure.
Have you read the comments here before responding to what you assume it is they’re stating? Has anyone on this thread condoned her actions? Not that I can see. Some nasty woman gets her comeuppance and life goes on. Does that prevent an examination of the context? Apparently I, and a few others here, have ‘blamed the victim’ for both attempting to understand the context, and for daring to suggest that, though she was undoubtedly out of line, his actions may have been questionable too? Do you not see how damaging that is to fruitful discussion? I honestly doubt you do - I’m not sure, ironically, that you can grapple with that nuance.No no no, goddamn it. We gotta over-analyze, misinterpret, massage it with words like nuance, hypothetical situations, and every other option under the sun to cast doubts on the victim.
Oh yay, a well adjusted American, please do continue to tell us how to interpret common English."okay, but you're not gonna like it" is something that's said in jest alot in the US, especially while smiling and having a little laugh as you say it.
Who the feck are you?Oh yay, a well adjusted American, please do continue to tell us how to interpret common English.
Someone considerably smarter than you xWho the feck are you?
Oh yay, a well adjusted American, please do continue to tell us how to interpret common English.
I get that, but that’s not how I think it reads. I find it rather condescending. The implication is that, now he’s here with his specialist grasp on the English language, that he can rid us of our doubt/erroneous opinions.Idiomatic expressions aren't easily interpreted outside of the linguistic group where they are common.
Well that’s me told then.Someone considerably smarter than you x