Only when it had the potential to affect sponsorship deals and the value of the club.
Sir Jim Ratcliffe: I want to buy Manchester United | Will make a bid for the club [Telegraph]
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Then what about United? Would a new American consortium do another Glazers? As far as I can see, the only way we'd see a massive increase in value and revenues has been binned. I suspect FSG and Glazers would've stayed on had the ESL been given the go ahead. The problem with football is results do matter, if we're not competing at the top, it impacts on everything. We need a lot of investment, that's for sure. Anyway, I'd love to see their business model.
Most likely United.
The Chelsea fans I know aren't happy right now! They mostly, correctly think that they've wasted crazy amounts of money on players that are overrated or pas their best!
A few weeks ago, he said he had no interest in bidding for Liverpool, yet now he is open to bidding for United, so clearly there is a 'romantic' interest in the club!
No thanks. Hopefully this guy is exactly what we all think he is, a bluffer.
So who is the right buyer then for you
Dreamland scenario would be someone like Apple but that’s unlikely. It’s a waiting game really to see who shows genuine interest then I’ll be able to judge the potential suitors better.
Yeah there is clearly a lot of crap links already
It's perfectly normal for non-state owners of top clubs to invest heavily into the club. Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, even Spurs (if you consider their stadium project). Makes good business sense too, ultimately sporting success drives commercial success.
Is it though? It hasn't been, over the past two decades. Just look at what United cost the Glazers compared to what they'll get for it now, even though we're in a considerably worse state now than we were then. That's a huge profit, even if you don't consider the money they've taken out of the club since they bought it. There probably isn't a likelihood of a similar value growth over the next decade or two, but I don't see why it'd be considered all that risky.
Todd Boehly disagrees
Yeah TRILLION dollar company is insane
I think an American consortium have United valued at less than the Glazer's do due to the lack of growth opporuntities there. The women's game is the only potenital area for huge growth and it's big in America, but realistically, United can't double their valuation from £6b without winning a bunch of stuff and increasing the brand over many years now.
ESL was the final goal for this lot and now it's not going to happen they have no where else to go, this is why Bohely buying Chelsea doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I also don't think the timing of the sale announcement is a conicidance, there's a certain World Cup happening in Qatar right now with the whole Arab world watching, and the Glazers will have people over there talking to everyone.
Simon Jordan said yesterday that he was in a box at one of the games in Qatar and PSG's chairman was in the same box. Some bloke came in, offered him $4b for PSG, to which he politely declined. United will have found a buyer beofre the tournement ends if they haven't already.
Mate, it's not within a companies best interests to buy a sports team. Apple have shareholders who would lose their absolute shit if they went out and wasted $6b on a sports team and not spend that money on Apple VR, or the Apple Car, or whatever they're working on. Google, Apple, Amazon, none of those will ever buy a team, it's wealthy individuals who will buy a sports team for an investment or sportswashing purposes.
An actual United fan and can afford it, sure he’s probably a cnut but it isn’t going to get any better than that
€13bn worth won't get it done imo
INEOS is worth £60bn which equals Ortega, and probably a lot of the American consortiums. He can absolutely buy and develop the club.
Boehly is worth 5.5bn usd. He hasn’t sunk half his worth into Chelsea - he has partners, finance sources and sponsors. Would be no different for Sir Jim and INEOS.
Also have concerns about how he runs clubs whereas with other prospective buyers I don't know how well they do that
It was him, Jim Beglin and a few others that confirmed the story, he's got no reason to lie for a laugh
Of course that happened Simon.
Watch Bohely do exactly what FSG are doing right now once he spends the agreed amount he would spend on improvements.
Keep this guy away from my club
Who is your ideal owner
I just don't think he has the financial muscle to pull this off. His net worth doesn't mean he can fork out 5B and then commit more for a stadium renovation. He could potentially lead a consortium though.
Oh it’s very unlikely to happen and the links are most likely a load of shite but that would be my preference in a dreamland scenario.
People say he would use some of INEOS money to pull this deal off as well
Golf is great
Agree. No sports wash please. This will all end badly anyway.
Oh great. Just what’s needed…
True. Still a hell of a lot of cash burned through bringing (and handsomely paying) a load of duds in.
Agreed but it was the matchgoers cash that funded those spending sprees.
Indeed. So we have been able to splash the cash despite groaning under the weight of the Glazers’ debt burden.
The main effect of the latter has been to wipe out the club’s borrowing capacity for funding ground improvements etc. Not that the Glazers have shown any great enthusiasm for that anyway.
I'm not sure if INEOS are on board with overpaying for United. And the below tweets do indicate that both Ratcliffe and INEOS aren't as committed to satisfying what the Glazers would require to relinquish control of the club.
Bring me state funds
He is quite literally on a radio station that sensationalises things to get listeners / engage people to call up.
Mine in order would be
Apple (no chance)
Ortega (legacy for family)
Ratcliffe (only if INEOS finance too)
Indian investment
Middle East state funded
£5B is not overpaying, when you consider what Chelsea went for.
And, concentrating on Nice, several weeks ago, has nothing to do with the situation unfolding this week.
This guy never had the financial means to pull it off.
Even if he somehow did, it wouldn't leave much for future investment.
A magnitude of this kind of deal would require state funds or Fortune 500 type money.
Even if he somehow did, it wouldn't leave much for future investment.
A magnitude of this kind of deal would require state funds or Fortune 500 type money.
Can we be bought by INEOS given he's the chairman? They'd have enough for us.