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Would that be true if the known face had/has major questions over how they would run United?
Yeah that's one of my two concerns about him
Would that be true if the known face had/has major questions over how they would run United?
Amazon? Can’t see that happening, would be worse than the glazers.
Will probably be dubai, £5 billion should do it including £1.5 billion for investment, stadia improvements.
not to mention would abu dhabi really want them stealing titles away? seems a bit counter productiveDoubt if Dubai has the financial bandwidth to do the deal. They still own their cousins, Abu Dhabi a lot from the last financial crisis when they almost went belly-up if not for the intervention of their cuz.
They don't have any of the oil&gas resources like their cousins -- relying on real estate, finance and their charms to survive.
not to mention would abu dhabi really want them stealing titles away? seems a bit counter productive
Suddenly feels very Ratcliffe or bust again according to some posts in last few hours
I was thinking of options and figured a major company had way less to lose compared to a billionaire spending 25-50 percent of their money and posted about Apple. Then checked the news hours later and saw the link, and I think it’s a fantastic idea. Stadium would be gorgeous as well, with Apple most likely getting the naming rights?Ortega looks one of the most unlikely options really. Apple more realistic at this point. Especially with the denials from Spain.
Will be the Americans I suspect. They will appreciate the business sensibility of buying United esp for the long haul where we will see an inevitable change in the business model of the EPL. The threat of the super league saw to that.
As I said earlier, content is King and United is gold. Even during our crap years, we are never away from the headlines. We don't need Netflix to spend a year tailing us around. This has been built up over generations so many content creators/producers will see this as a bargain.
Hardware combined with content is a well-trodden path for tech companies. There is a hierarchy of the types of companies in the tech space. Hardware companies are lower down the totem pole. Content is always at the top.
What sort of American company do you see
God have a think man. You know we had covid where the world shut down. It's been reported that Dubai have somewhat recovered. Plus they are still loaded. Worth 302 billion. Why would Manchester Citys owners give a shit if they bought us when they are richer. Dubai is still a separate emirate state at the end of the day. Some people here need to think and not be braindead.Doubt if Dubai has the financial bandwidth to do the deal. They still own their cousins, Abu Dhabi a lot from the last financial crisis when they almost went belly-up if not for the intervention of their cuz.
They don't have any of the oil&gas resources like their cousins -- relying on real estate, finance and their charms to survive.
God have a think man. You know we had covid where the world shut down. It's been reported that Dubai have somewhat recovered. Plus they are still loaded. Worth 302 billion. Why would Manchester Citys owners give a shit if they bought us when they are richer. Dubai is still a separate emirate state at the end of the day. Some people here need to think and not be braindead.
Ok I have a business degree and that was their subsidiaries. Those ain't even their sovereign fund. Parent and subsidiary companies are 2 separate companies. Plus they are not the ones who want to buy Manchester United. Its the corporation of dubai who is confirmed to be interested which isn't either of those companies in the article. parent companies have no obligation to to lend their subsidiaries money. I doubt they care given they are worth 10 times more
Abu Dhabi vs Dubai. Football is the new camel racing.God have a think man. You know we had covid where the world shut down. It's been reported that Dubai have somewhat recovered. Plus they are still loaded. Worth 302 billion. Why would Manchester Citys owners give a shit if they bought us when they are richer. Dubai is still a separate emirate state at the end of the day. Some people here need to think and not be braindead.
Do people know that a parent and subsidiary are 2 different companies. It's basic business knowledge.Abu Dhabi vs Dubai. Football is the new camel racing.
Only way to compete long term with Manchester City. Football sold its soulAbu Dhabi vs Dubai. Football is the new camel racing.
I don't have a business degree but after reading the article above, I have also come to the same conclusion as yourself. Dubai Holding was formerly known as DIC, who tried buying Liverpool and they're a subsidiarie of Dubai.Ok I have a business degree and that was their subsidiaries. Those ain't even their sovereign fund. Parent and subsidiary companies are 2 separate companies. Plus they are not the ones who want to buy Manchester United. Its the corporation of dubai who is confirmed to be interested which isn't either of those companies in the article. parent companies have no obligation to to lend their subsidiaries money. I doubt they care given they are worth 10 times more
Yep that's what I am basically saying. Its not the subsidiaries who want to buy the club. Its the actual parent company the incorporation of dubai who as you said are worth 302 billion. They control those 2 companies but still really loaded. People need to research before spouting the nonsense of dubai is in debt so they can't buy Manchester UnitedI don't have a business degree but after reading the article above, I have also come to the same conclusion as yourself. Dubai Holding was formerly known as DIC, who tried buying Liverpool and they're a subsidiarie of Dubai.
The ones reported to be interested in buying the club are the investment corporation of Dubai (ICD) which has assets of over $300bn.
Tbf to Sglowrider, it is a bit confusing, so I can sympathise.Yep that's what I am basically saying. Its not the subsidiaries who want to buy the club. Its the actual parent company the incorporation of dubai who as you said are worth 302 billion. They control those 2 companies but still really loaded. People need to research before spouting the nonsense of dubai is in debt so they can't buy Manchester United
You have a point i guess. I did an accounting degree so I guess I easily spotted it. So yeah don't rule out Dubai buying the club. Not saying its definitely going to happen but they are very loaded and could afford Manchester United easily. Plus they don't give a crap about Manchester city owners. They are not going to decide not to buy it due to thatTbf to Sglowrider, it is a bit confusing, so I can sympathise.
But you're correct, it's the subsidiaries who have had issues whilst the parent company (ICD) is financially extremely healthy.
I think the Apple, Google, Netflix even MS links would make sense. They have all got into the content game via tech platforms.
Without knowing the financial details; when you are spending £5-7billion, you are looking at returns in 10-15 years' time. I am sure the EPL model will change before that.
Take the little Wrexham experiment -- the two boys discovered how antiquated the custodians of football, below the EPL were. They were able to bend them then a little to suit their agenda. They have the publicity off the Netflix series -- and wanted to then leverage technology like IPTV to then stream direct. Even they could figure it out.
There is less of an incentive for the NFL and the MLB since they are primarily for the domestic audience. NBA is a much more global sport/content than the above two.
We have moved into a new technology model -- you have the ability to remove the middleman now. It wont happen overnight. But I see United streaming direct to United fans in 10years time with some sort of hybrid model. The technology has been there the past 5-8 years already. Maybe clubs like Burnley or Palace have a bigger share of the TV pot whilst clubs like United get more leeway to stream direct. Afterall MUTV already exist , they just need to pump up the resources like global bandwidth management, bigger production crew etc.
Sports is content. And Content is king.
Most of all, successful content is just very difficult to create or find.
I wasn't paying much attention to it until it was reported by Matt Lawton in The Times, and he's a decent journalist.You have a point i guess. I did an accounting degree so I guess I easily spotted it. So yeah don't rule out Dubai buying the club. Not saying its definitely going to happen but they are very loaded and could afford Manchester United easily. Plus they don't give a crap about Manchester city owners. They are not going to decide not to buy it due to that
I wasn't paying much attention to it until it was reported by Matt Lawton in The Times, and he's a decent journalist.
@ShakeseyMuch as I would like to think it was possible for them to buy us,doesn't seem realistic at all. I might feel differently if it wasn't coming from such an unreliable Utd source in Cross. Certainly interesting that the Saudi stuff was coming from BBC but won't happen as they own Newcastle.
It was first reported by Mike Keegan months earlier about Dubai seriously positioning themselves to purchase the club.Oh yeah true. I remember seeing that tweet. I actually understand why people were confused. They might of thought it was one of the subsidiaries but it's been confirmed it's the parent company. Sorry guys for getting a bit uptight. When are they are coming forward I wonder because as you said reliable journalist
It was first reported by Mike Keegan months earlier about Dubai seriously positioning themselves to purchase the club.
I would expect things to take a bit of time but I'm expecting to hear more concrete news in the coming weeks regarding the people behind potential offers. And by the end of the season, we will hopefully have a clearer a picture of who will takeover from the Glazers.
I hope so mate, it would be nice to go into a summer transfer window with new ownership. And who that will be, is going to keep us all enthralled in the meantime.I am sure it will be cleared up by the end of the season. Or never. This will allow the new owners to have an impact on this upcoming summer window.
Ambani's worth isn't shady by any means but he isn't spending 6-8 billion without returns or major expansion plan of Reliance in Europe. Safe to say, he won't be buying.That is dream one but realistically my first choice would be Ortega,could buy us as a legacy for his family as he's 86. Apparently this Ambani guy worth around $90bn is shady to say the least.
Taking debts when interest rates have been going up and theres no sign of slowing down doesnt look wise to me.
Can the Posh French Waiter pull it off? maybe he should buy the club cash![]()
Would that be true if the known face had/has major questions over how they would run United?
Not sure what y'all are on about. I'd bet good money that none of the tech companies will buy us.
If they want streaming rights, that has to be negotiated with the PL, UEFA etc. The other content like behind the scenes footage, documentaries, youth games (all of the stuff MUTV does) is no where near valuable enough for a 5bn takeover of United.
If they want stadium naming rights, they will buy some stadium naming rights. They don't have to buy the whole club. Also Apple didn't care to bid for Camp Nou so it's hardly likely they'll be interested in OT.
If the content people really need the content, we will spin up something like Barca Studios and give % rights to Netflix for a couple hundred million or something like that.
Ambani's worth isn't shady by any means but he isn't spending 6-8 billion without returns or major expansion plan of Reliance in Europe. Safe to say, he won't be buying.
They don't have any of the oil&gas resources like their cousins -- relying on real estate, finance and their charms to survive.
if all his done is taken Nice to upper mid table, in one of the lowest spending leagues in Europe. It’s not really a good sign.So whilst Nice haven't become a major force in France since the takeout, they have become a consistent upper mid table team with a steady foundation. They are severely hampered by their income which has stopped any major leaps but INEOS have made it clear that they are willing to keep putting in the money.
Seems like a step above the Glazers to me.