croadyman
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You don't rate Brailsford?
I do in Cycling but have serious concerns that Ratcliffe will put mates in place
You don't rate Brailsford?
I was a bit surprised to learn about someone from a Cycling background being made director of sport at OGC Nice. But I do expect Brailsford to accompany Ratcliffe if he does end up buying the club.I do in Cycling but have serious concerns that Ratcliffe will put mates in place rather than the right people.
Jim White on Talksport at 3:06 says he heard Nassir Al Khalifi they had a 4bn bid received for PSG and the bidder was among the middle East.
They're out in Qatar and claim they heard that from him first hand. If we believe this I don't think there will be any issue selling United for 6bn among more than one interested party.
I was a bit surprised to learn about someone from a Cycling background being made director of sport at OGC Nice. But I do expect Brailsford to accompany Ratcliffe if he does end up buying the club.
It does mate.Does that not worry you at all as Brailsford is a Cycling maestro not a Football one
It does mate.
Is that the Mercedes formula one team (a period of dominance not seen since Ferrari with Michael Schumacher)? Or the cycling team (unprecedented levels of dominance)?
As long as the owners are prepared to invest in the club and make us competitive, then I think things will fall into place. And I'm confident that under new ownership, we'll see people being held accountable for their decisions on the football side of the club. Under the Glazers, Woodward was not held accountable for a string of poor decisions, and that creates a very poor culture at the club.Really hope we are looking into what each interested party plans are for that side of things because getting it right is so important
Look it up on the internet. I think you'll find some interesting facts and stories.Ohh what about sportswashing' ? Whatever the hell that means
But we have no idea of who’s better. We know who’s better at being a public face, that’s for sure.
Really hope we are looking into what each interested party plans are for that side of things because getting it right is so important
Kind of complicated. Initially I thought he was ideal when this was discussed a couple of months back but since then I have looked into him a little deeper and there is a fair amount of negativity from the fans of the clubs he already owns which is a red flag. It is also hard to get to the bottom of whether he is a fan or not due to the heavy Chelsea links, he may have liked United growing up but frankly I can't imagine an actual fan being a season ticket holder of a rival club.
With all of that being said he may actually be an ideal owner if it comes to pass, it is hard to know for sure until a serious offer is made and we get an idea of what his vision for the club is and how he plans to finance both the purchase and any investment. Ineos and Sir Jim are going to approach this as running a business so they will not pump a single penny into the club that they don't get back. This is not necassarily a bad thing, it can be done sustainably and the club can be placed on a solid financial footing where it is self sustaining with its own revenue but the intital cash injection has to come from somewhere and the devil will be in the details.
I will hope for the best if he comes in with a real offer provided it addresses the issue of clearing the debt and investing in much needed improvements to the club infrastructure. I doubt though that a bid will actually materialize. The stunt with the bid for Chelsea in the summer throws his credibility into serious doubt because it was literally a stunt, a bid made outside of the process and after the deadline designed to grab headlines. Sir Jim himself has stated he wants to buy United and has also categorically on the record said he has no interest in buying United in the space of a few months and is now interested again. I think he is a fraud and until proven otherwise I will hope for another bidder.
Here we go... The magic sportswashing word. Because If you say it it must be true.to me a known face is better than an unknown face. An unknown face/unknown consortium has less accountability - the so far mentioned candidates are either US based or oil-based. I’d take Sir Jim over that in a heartbeat. Not saying he’s great, but I’m not happy to see a new US owner who doesnt care for anything else than money (and doesnt understand the inner workings of the club/sport) or a sportswashing enterprise. Surely a known face in this regard is good.
Because it causes idiots like you to make silly statements like that and ignore what’s happening in the worldHere we go... The magic sportswashing word. Because If you say it it must be true.
Manchester City group are owned by a golf state. Can you please cite some examples of how they have used thier ownership of City to" sportswash" ?
I'd rather we were owned by Radcliffe than an Arab state. If challenging for titles in that scenario is not possible, so be it.As long as the owners are prepared to invest in the club and make us competitive, then I think things will fall into place. And I'm confident that under new ownership, we'll see people being held accountable for their decisions on the football side of the club. Under the Glazers, Woodward was not held accountable for a string of poor decisions, and that creates a very poor culture at the club.
If new owners want to bring their own people in, then that's good and should be supported. But there has to be accountability. And if there's accountability, then the standards will naturally be high.
I'm not sure someone like Ratcliffe will get us on a level playing field with Man City. And I can understand people who don't want state ownership. But if we want United to go toe to toe with Man City, then a level playing field needs to be created. Newcastle will also come strong in the next few years, so I can see why there's many fans who would want a owner who could potentially create that level playing field. If there wasn't a Abu Dhabi or Saudi investment fund in the PL, then I'd be against such a ownership. But it's the governing bodies and the Government who have allowed this to happen.
Because it causes idiots like you to make silly statements like that and ignore what’s happening in the world
Here we go... The magic sportswashing word. Because If you say it it must be true.
Manchester City group are owned by a golf state. Can you please cite some examples of how they have used thier ownership of City to" sportswash" ?
Here we go... The magic sportswashing word. Because If you say it it must be true.
Manchester City group are owned by a golf state. Can you please cite some examples of how they have used thier ownership of City to" sportswash" ?
Haha what??? Like literally everything they do is sportswashing.
More detail on the selection process would be ideal. I really hope it is not a matter of the owners selling to the highest bidder without consideration of future plans for the footballing side. If the past 17 years has taught us anything it’s that the Glazers put profit before all else, every time. I can’t imagine they give two hoots as to what happens to United once they sell.
It wasnt a stunt. he has been looking at a top premier league club for years. It was a last minute decision. United has always been his first choice. He is a United fan.A person like Jim thrives of megabusiness and image - his bid for Chelsea could also as well be a signal to the World (and United) that he’s interested in a big sports project. It might be a stunt as you say, but who’s been talking about him owning United ever since? We have. He’s now probably the most popular choice by fans of the suitors we know.
He might have been fully aware that his late bid would be rejected, and that it would give him an image of being a suitor for similar clubs. We can’t pr see say it was made in an unproffesional manner. So I wont judge him based on that. His dealings in other businesses should also weigh in, if you start characterizing him as doubtful as a suitor because of the Chelsea-bid.
Explain ?
I know you read it somewhere and believe everything you read in the papers but please elaborate?
Explain ?
I know you read it somewhere and believe everything you read in the papers but please elaborate?
Explain ?
I know you read it somewhere and believe everything you read in the papers but please elaborate?
He’s a Chelsea fan and it was a stunt. It was well over the deadline and was never going to be accepted. You don’t make 4b deals at the last minute. That process was designed to smoke out people like Jim.It wasnt a stunt. he has been looking at a top premier league club for years. It was a last minute decision. United has always been his first choice. He is a United fan.
Im glad some is asking because I find it ironic. If anything, buying a football team increases the scrutiny and magnifying glass on the state fund.
Nobody in the UK cared when then Qataris were buying up London real estate. But them owning PSG and the world cup has actually brought forward all the “issues” people have about their country/region.
Well I’ve heard several high profile people talk about how great the owners are beyond the football team ie improving the local around Etihad. Perhaps those people now have a better impression of the owners, and as a result a lot of the people that listen to them.Im glad some is asking because I find it ironic. If anything, buying a football team increases the scrutiny and magnifying glass on the state fund.
Nobody in the UK cared when then Qataris were buying up London real estate. But them owning PSG and the world cup has actually brought forward all the “issues” people have about their country/region.
It's far too hot to enjoy a round of golf there, I'd hardly call it a golf state.Here we go... The magic sportswashing word. Because If you say it it must be true.
Manchester City group are owned by a golf state. Can you please cite some examples of how they have used thier ownership of City to" sportswash" ?
You're right, these nation states with amazing human rights records just happen to adore Newcastle United since the days of Philippe Albert and want to give back to the local community of Tyneside some three thousand miles away.Explain ?
I know you read it somewhere and believe everything you read in the papers but please elaborate?
I'm sure he will take out a loan.How much of that is liquid? It doesn't matter how much he's worth. Elon just almost sank Tesla to buy Twitter, he didn't just have £55b sitting in a bank account.
Sounds like a bit of a bluffer to me