We didnt put him under much pressure from crosses, which is his biggest weakness. He played well overall and was particularly quick off his line to close down Nani, but he was extremely unconvincing with Scholes' shot in the first half and even with the Valencia goal, he wasnt in a great position leading to the ball going past him.
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I thought he was alright. Made a good save from the Nani header and was off his line quickly, but then once again he showed his aerial worries and that's just too big a con for us to consider buying him, no matter how many other pros he has.
Was he bad aerially? He was fine all game and looked commanding for most of the part but Lloris is the one we should maybe keep our eyes on as he seems very much VDS like in his communication and commanding of his area.
Any time the ball went above head height he either flapped or hesitated on his line.
He caught all the crosses at chest height fine though.
He caught all the crosses at chest height fine though.
I prefer Hugo Lloris, le gardien de l'OL.
From today's match, he's no better than Foster, and we need VDS or Schmike standard to dominate. Anything below that, even the good ones like Bosnich, Howard, Carroll, Barthez, we just didn't win much. We just can not settle for good or verygood, only the outstanding and the best will do.
While Akinfeev is a good keeper instinctively, takes good angles on shots and anticipates play well, I'm not sure he could handle the physical play of the PL all that well. His lack of confidence in the air isn't conducive either. He would be certainly better suited to play in Spain for instance.
I can't believe that people are rating him on par to Foster for just 1 game.
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What happened to him? Haven't seen him play for AC in awhile.
he made one great save from the nani header but should have done better with the goal
its all besides the point - vds has looked fantastic again coming back, hasn't put a foot wrong and has looked world class from the minute he returned from injury
sure we have to plan for the future but the way VDS is playing and given his ability which isnt exactly on the slide i reckon he'll be as good a keeper as anyone for another 18 months
no need to worry about replacements yet - we have one of the best - think we should forget VDS's age and think more about his performances
its all besides the point - vds has looked fantastic again coming back, hasn't put a foot wrong and has looked world class from the minute he returned from injury
sure we have to plan for the future but the way VDS is playing and given his ability which isnt exactly on the slide i reckon he'll be as good a keeper as anyone for another 18 months
no need to worry about replacements yet - we have one of the best - think we should forget VDS's age and think more about his performances
One of his better games.
And you say it like Foster isnt a good up and coming keeper. He is and so is Akinfeev, but both clearly have their issues.
Its unfair to judge him on 1 game, stating that he looked so smallish and frail infront of goal. I cant see this guy dominating the box well enough to keep the typical EPL 6.3ft striker at bay.
Played appallingly tonight against Real...mind you Casillas wasn't much better.
Keepers at United
Was almost tempted to start this as a new thread, but decided just to stick it in here.
The thing with being a United keeper is, it's not enough just to be an okay keeper. You have to have a presence, dominate the penalty area and be a good shot stopper into the bargain.
That I believe is our problem with Foster, and it seems with Akinfeev as well. Both are okay keepers, both are good shot stoppers, but neither dominates the box and gives you a sense of confidence that "nothing is getting past me" - something Schmeichel used to give off every game. You knew you had to produce something special to beat him and nothing was going to come easily.
The next keeper we either buy or stick with, has got to be a commanding presence in our defence - none really jump to mind who are out there, unless we spend big. Otherwise, if there's no one out there better than Foster, let's stick with Foster, get behind him and try and develop him.
As a keeper, Foster at 26 is still young. They don't really peak until later in their careers and if you look around the Premiership, a lot of the decent keepers, such as Friedel, Jasskelainen, etc. are all upwards of 34, so their's plenty of time for him.
I think we all just have to accept a couple of truths:
1. Keepers make mistakes, even Cech who was unflappable a few years back, has made a number of blunders in recent times.
2. United can't always have the best keeper in the world, like we did with Schmeichel.
3. If there's no one out there better than Foster, stick with him and improve his game.
Was almost tempted to start this as a new thread, but decided just to stick it in here.
The thing with being a United keeper is, it's not enough just to be an okay keeper. You have to have a presence, dominate the penalty area and be a good shot stopper into the bargain.
That I believe is our problem with Foster, and it seems with Akinfeev as well. Both are okay keepers, both are good shot stoppers, but neither dominates the box and gives you a sense of confidence that "nothing is getting past me" - something Schmeichel used to give off every game. You knew you had to produce something special to beat him and nothing was going to come easily.
The next keeper we either buy or stick with, has got to be a commanding presence in our defence - none really jump to mind who are out there, unless we spend big. Otherwise, if there's no one out there better than Foster, let's stick with Foster, get behind him and try and develop him.
As a keeper, Foster at 26 is still young. They don't really peak until later in their careers and if you look around the Premiership, a lot of the decent keepers, such as Friedel, Jasskelainen, etc. are all upwards of 34, so their's plenty of time for him.
I think we all just have to accept a couple of truths:
1. Keepers make mistakes, even Cech who was unflappable a few years back, has made a number of blunders in recent times.
2. United can't always have the best keeper in the world, like we did with Schmeichel.
3. If there's no one out there better than Foster, stick with him and improve his game.
We cant always have the best keeper (actually we haven't had that since Schmeichel). Stating that we need a goalkeeper who can dominate the box and who is able to instill confidence in the defense.
Now I would rather stick to Foster then his Russian clone. On the other hand, I cant see how a keeper who wasnt able to cover VDS for a couple of weeks (our defense was screaming for a confident keeper, capable of bringing in some solidaty at the back) can succeed him in the near future. Lets face VDS will not be lasting long and we will soon need someone to step in and do the job WEEK IN WEEK OUT (without needing VDS to bail him out whenever things start getting sour)
I was impressed how quick he was off his line, very decisive. I don't think you can really fault him for the goal, it was very close and Valencia hammered it. He looks a liability on crosses and isn't the tallest. I would imagine there are better options around, although he does look talented.
Not impressed. It has been a bad night for keepers.
I prefer Hugo Lloris, le gardien de l'OL.
Lyon never sell to United; or United never pay the prices Lyon want
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He can't cost more than 30 million at the moment
I'm not sure what the mad panic is.
I don't think there is a better prospect around than Foster and I don't really recall PIG letting us down when he has played.
If SAF was intent on getting another keeper, we should have bought Given when Newcastle let him go.
I don't think there is a better prospect around than Foster and I don't really recall PIG letting us down when he has played.
If SAF was intent on getting another keeper, we should have bought Given when Newcastle let him go.
I much doubt that. There are keepers who would enable us to rely on them without having the need to rush a 38 year old back to business. You'll be surprised to notice that supporters outside Britain tend not to rate Foster amongst the best keepers in the world. He wouldnt make it in the 'most promising keepers' too and that despite being 26 years old (age should be an advantage). Neaur, Adler and Asenjo would come to mind.
You sure about that given this quote from the BBC about last nights game Chelsea vs. Atletico Madrid.
Asenjo had an up and down game. The free kick was pretty poor, but he had no other real errors and pulled off a couple of good saves.
Still, Lloris and possibly Adler/Neuer seem to be the frontrunners at the moment. This is simply one of the times when i dont want to see some "surprise" signing like Owen - we need a top quality keeper, and one who is going to last another 10 or so years at the club to avoid us being too unstable at the back. If we go signing David James on a free or something then its just going to mean the same problem we have now, after the World Cup.
Still, Lloris and possibly Adler/Neuer seem to be the frontrunners at the moment. This is simply one of the times when i dont want to see some "surprise" signing like Owen - we need a top quality keeper, and one who is going to last another 10 or so years at the club to avoid us being too unstable at the back. If we go signing David James on a free or something then its just going to mean the same problem we have now, after the World Cup.
This would almost fit some of the ''summings up'' of Fosters games this season. So why does this guy seem to be a better keeper than Foster?
Asenjo was similar to Akinfeev. Some good stops, some not so good.
This would almost fit some of the ''summings up'' of Fosters games this season. So why does this guy seem to be a better keeper than Foster?
If Asenjo is already as good as Foster then he is truly a good talent, considering that he is 6 years younger then him.
Spot On !!
Goalkeeping at United is all about mental strength and reliability.
It is "easy" being a good goalkeeper for a smaller club. Less pressure, less spot light and more to do.
A goalie for United is very very rarely required to be a match-winning goalie. We need a goalie that does the basic things right and makes as little mistakes as possible.
I.e. a goalie don't win United games, but can lose us games.
It is "easy" being a good goalkeeper for a smaller club. Less pressure, less spot light and more to do.
A goalie for United is very very rarely required to be a match-winning goalie. We need a goalie that does the basic things right and makes as little mistakes as possible.
I.e. a goalie don't win United games, but can lose us games.
Wasn't impressed at all. Didn't see him do anything that Foster couldn't have done just as well and looked prone to the same failings as Foster too.
Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson was quick to praise CSKA Moscow duo Igor Akinfeev and Milos Krasic after last night's Champions League win.
Goalkeeper Akinfeev and Serbia winger Krasic have both been linked with United ahead of the January market and Ferguson admits he rates both players highly.
Ferguson said: "Krasic, without question, created a bit of concern. He is a very talented player.
"After that I thought the goalkeeper was outstanding. He was very impressive."
Goalkeeper Akinfeev and Serbia winger Krasic have both been linked with United ahead of the January market and Ferguson admits he rates both players highly.
Ferguson said: "Krasic, without question, created a bit of concern. He is a very talented player.
"After that I thought the goalkeeper was outstanding. He was very impressive."
Oh crap.
Gawd bless Fergie. He's pretty much infallible but his Achilles heel will always be goalkeepers.
feck sake Fergie.He really isn't a goalkeeper man is he? I think the only reason we got VDS was because Schmeichel himself told him to.
I agree
Lloris looked far better for Lyon.
Let's get Schmike back as goalkeeping scout, I'm sure we can afford whatever Discovery are paying him for Dirty Jobs.