Sir Alex in for Akinfeev

Akinfeev would never be a safe option. I dont know a first team premier league keeper who has more problems with coming out and collecting the ball than him and although a fine shot stopper, I've seen him make mistakes and let in some weak shots too. He's young with potential but with more problems than Foster.

I find that hard to believe Ekeke, certainly Akineev has been playing a lot more matches than Foster so that means he has more opportunities to make mistakes. GK abilities wise, great shot stopper, looks calm, kicks the ball quite well, has his bad days with crosses but then again every goal keeper in the world has this problem. You can't deny that. Foster though has looked too shakey, hasn't convinced that he looks top draw yet and has already proved that he was overhyped for his performances for Watford. Akineev certainly edges out on experience though being 3 yrs younger so I'd give a thumbs up to Akineev.
 
I only want Buffon...for me he'd be a sure-fire success. Akinfeev? dodgy..and represents more of a gamble, same goes for Neuer, Adler. I wouldn't want to splash big bucks on a keeper who isn't guaranteed to be a success.
 
I find that hard to believe Ekeke, certainly Akineev has been playing a lot more matches than Foster so that means he has more opportunities to make mistakes. GK abilities wise, great shot stopper, looks calm, kicks the ball quite well, has his bad days with crosses but then again every goal keeper in the world has this problem. You can't deny that. Foster though has looked too shakey, hasn't convinced that he looks top draw yet and has already proved that he was overhyped for his performances for Watford. Akineev certainly edges out on experience though being 3 yrs younger so I'd give a thumbs up to Akineev.

Foster's a shot stopper too. Has still let in some weaker efforts, but I saw a really awful one last season in the uefa cup from akinfeev against Aston Villa which was far worse. And he's anything but calm when the ball is in the air.

Akinfeev's mistake against Villa last season, around 2:41

 
I find that hard to believe Ekeke, certainly Akineev has been playing a lot more matches than Foster so that means he has more opportunities to make mistakes. GK abilities wise, great shot stopper, looks calm, kicks the ball quite well, has his bad days with crosses but then again every goal keeper in the world has this problem. You can't deny that. Foster though has looked too shakey, hasn't convinced that he looks top draw yet and has already proved that he was overhyped for his performances for Watford. Akineev certainly edges out on experience though being 3 yrs younger so I'd give a thumbs up to Akineev.

So what you're saying is lets spunk £20-25m on a goalkeeper because they're slightly better than foster, excellent.
 
Foster's a shot stopper too. Has still let in some weaker efforts, but I saw a really awful one last season in the uefa cup from akinfeev against Aston Villa which was far worse. And he's anything but calm when the ball is in the air.

Akinfeev's mistake against Villa last season, around 2:41


Again, I said that Akineev has played more so he has more chances of producing more mistakes.

And FFS, I'm not a Foster hater, I'm just implying if he's going to continue with his horrid form then Akineev would be worth a go. But not for more than 20m.

Foster has had his chance, and hasn't proved his worth to be in the first 11. Still, he could make it but this isn't his season.
 
I can't believe people are rating Foster so highly, we are way overrating him here in this forum.

He is a good keeper, I'm not saying he's bad but he's performances haven't been up to standard so why not drop him and just lay off this hype. Give him a bit more time to settle from his injury, give him more playing time, a quick loan would do him the world of good.

I'm confident that PIG can do a good job in being VDS replacement but nothing more.

Foster needs to be playing regularly but not at ManUtd yet. There's too much pressure on him and we are overrating him. Let him shine for some other team AGAIN and then wait for his full recovery.

Meanwhile in the summer, if we can snap a good deal for a well established GK then why not ? Not saying 20m is the answer ? Something reasonable which SAF claims. If Akineev was for sale at 10m I'd take the gamble as he has more experience than any other GK we have ( Not including VDS ).

Foster + the new signing could fight for the No.1 Jersey next season and I'd say that would be reasonable enough.
 
Right. But all the people that are talking about us possibly signing Akinfeev... If he makes an error like he did last season against Villa, he'll be lambasted even more than Foster. And then we'll have people saying we should sign the next keeper we're linked with.

How about we just dont sign a keeper who is incredibly dodgy with all aerial balls and prone to making mistakes like Foster has in his run (or worse in this example) and instead, if we're going to sign someone, sign someone who is proven and consistant in all areas that would be vital in the premier league.
 
Right. But all the people that are talking about us possibly signing Akinfeev... If he makes an error like he did last season against Villa, he'll be lambasted even more than Foster. And then we'll have people saying we should sign the next keeper we're linked with.

How about we just dont sign a keeper who is incredibly dodgy with all aerial balls and prone to making mistakes like Foster has in his run (or worse in this example) and instead, if we're going to sign someone, sign someone who is proven and consistant in all areas that would be vital in the premier league.

Who is there that is outstanding, proven and available though? None of the names i've seen so far cover all 3 criteria.
 
Who is there that is outstanding, proven and available though? None of the names i've seen so far cover all 3 criteria.

Diego Lopez looks like the best bet from the leagues I watch. But I dont really catch the French, German or Italian leagues. So there may be someone else.
 
Diego Lopez looks like the best bet from the leagues I watch. But I dont really catch the French, German or Italian leagues. So there may be someone else.

Outstanding and available but certainly not proven. Proven in La Liga maybe but you and i both know a Goalkeeper's task in Spain is vastly different to what they face in England.
 
I must admit he's probably my top pick at the moment but even he comes with huge risk as does any other young 'keeper.

He's my pick if the Foster experiment is deemed a complete failure. Was really impressed with him a couple years back and the fact that he's also an United fan and apparently there's a clause for us to buy him doesn't hurt.
 
Every keeper would be a risk, may they be young or old.

Well obviously, but younger 'keepers carry greater risk because they have not been exposed to as much football as someone with greater experience.
 
I'd be suprised at that price but I still think £10m is too much to take a punt on a goalkeeper with some very major and obvious flaws in his game.

I find it harsh to say he has majoy flaws. If he was that crap he wouldn't be Russia's No.1 at a very young age.

He's still very talented already at a young age, has been playing in international games and is an established No.1 keeper for a team that plays in the CL.

I still find it hard to believe we are rating Foster more than him. That's why I'm pointing out we maybe overrating Foster for he's performances at Watford.

I'd say CSKA Moscow > Watford.

Man, I'm pretty sure you all love Foster but I'm viewing this as a neutral.
 
Well obviously, but younger 'keepers carry greater risk because they have not been exposed to as much football as someone with greater experience.

That's why I'm pointing to some here that Akineev has more experience than Foster and is has already played the highest level of football. Though I'm not pointing out we should splash 20m but I'm pointing out he could be a potential replacement for VDS.
 
That's why I'm pointing to some here that Akineev has more experience than Foster and is has already played the highest level of football. Though I'm not pointing out we should splash 20m but I'm pointing out he could be a potential replacement for VDS.
i think the operative words here are 'could be'

why not spend it on julio cesar at inter who 'would be'

better to buy the finished product than gamble when it comes to goalkeepers

the post schmeichal era has taught us that.....
 
i think the operative words here are 'could be'

why not spend it on julio cesar at inter who 'would be'

better to buy the finished product than gamble when it comes to goalkeepers

the post schmeichal era has taught us that.....

He has issues with his wife, I doubt Inter would sell their best GK anyway. I do agree that we should go for established GK, but who would fit the mould of reasonable pricing and established ?

VDS was a great buy, but who next ?
 
I find it harsh to say he has majoy flaws. If he was that crap he wouldn't be Russia's No.1 at a very young age.

He's still very talented already at a young age, has been playing in international games and is an established No.1 keeper for a team that plays in the CL.

I still find it hard to believe we are rating Foster more than him. That's why I'm pointing out we maybe overrating Foster for he's performances at Watford.

I'd say CSKA Moscow > Watford.

Man, I'm pretty sure you all love Foster but I'm viewing this as a neutral.

He's a talent with some major flaws. I dont know another half decent Russian goalkeeper.

And CSKA are obviously better than Watford, but how many CSKA games have you seen over the past 2 seasons? And Manchester United > CSKA so I'm not sure what your point there was anyway.

I've personally seen 5 or 6, usually european matches as Milos Krasic has caught my eye for Serbia and CSKA. Akinfeev far less so.
 


Might have done a tiny bit better with the goal he conceeded tonight as well. Its a good strike, but its from a long distance and he gets a slight touch on it, as you can see from the camera behind the goal. Beaten by the bounce.
 
He's a talent with some major flaws. I dont know another half decent Russian goalkeeper.

And CSKA are obviously better than Watford, but how many CSKA games have you seen over the past 2 seasons? And Manchester United > CSKA so I'm not sure what your point there was anyway.

I've personally seen 5 or 6, usually european matches as Milos Krasic has caught my eye for Serbia and CSKA. Akinfeev far less so.

Yes Manutd > CSKA but definetly not Foster's form though ?

Point is he's played more competetive games at a higher standard than Foster at already a younger age.

Yes, he has flaws like most goalkeepers do, but just maybe he has more talent than Foster

Anyone's choice though whether you support Foster, or thinks Akineev can do a good job here.
 
Players do improve, or stall their rate of improvement you know. Just because someone is better at similar stages when they were younger compared to another one, it doesn't mean they will have a better career or be a better player.
 
You know, I really like the way most guys are backing Foster even after his mistakes. I don't understand why we didn't back T-Ho more ?

Some did. Sir Alex didnt so much. A Howard error took us out of the champions league and his form didnt pick up, so SAF got someone else in.

But we should back all of our younger/developing talents and thanks to his injuries, he is still in that category as he still has things to prove and improve.
 
Most did.. but he never recovered his form and confidence. Foster seems to make mistake(s) in one game, and able to perform well the next few ones.
 
Some did. Sir Alex didnt so much. A Howard error took us out of the champions league and his form didnt pick up, so SAF got someone else in.

But we should back all of our younger/developing talents and thanks to his injuries, he is still in that category as he still has things to prove and improve.

You mean by swapping T-Ho constantly with the shite Carrol ? I feel really bad for Howard there.

I am backing Foster, I'm just pointing out my views as a neutral to see if anyone else shared the same view if Akineev was worthwhile.
 
Sky Sports | Football | Premier League | News | Fergie coy on Akinfeev link

Sir Alex Ferguson has played down rumours linking Manchester United for CSKA Moscow goalkeeper Igor Akinfeev.

Ferguson will get a close look of the Russian international in action on Wednesday when his United side take on CSKA in the UEFA Champions League.

The 23-year-old has established himself as one of Europe's leading keepers over the last year and reports in Russia suggest the Red Devils are leading the chase to sign the highly rated shot-stopper.

However, Ferguson was quick to point out that when 38-year-old Edwin Van der Sar did decide to retire Ben Foster, whose performances in the Dutchman's absence this term have been heavily scrutinised, and Tomasz Kuszczak were more than capable of taking his place.

"I can't deal with rumour because we have two very good young goalkeepers at the club at the moment in Kuszczak and Foster and the future lies with them," he said.

"When Edwin Van der Sar finally decides to retire I'm quite confident these players can take over."
 
I don't think we're interested in him. Stories like this always come out before European games.
 
It's a big fat 'meh' for me.

Flapped at a couple, and did the opposite to what you're supposed to do-make yourself big-for the goal.
 
One good game doesn't make him great. He's been shocking every time I seen him. Last game against an English side was against Villa I think and he let in an absolute shocker.