Short-term LB signing?

Shaw out till December…
 
Ayoba said:
Tierney just went on loan to a Spanish team, he would've been a decent option.
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I was just coming on the thread to say that if the timing would have been better he surely would have been 1 of the better choices, depending if Arsenal would have loaned to a rival of course.
 
We shouldn't need one - Dalot can play there, Alvaro can play there, and Malacia won't be out for long. What was the point in signing Malacia if he isn't good enough? Sell him then. What's the point in keeping Alvaro if he isn't ready? Sell him. Pointless from the club.
 
I was going to say I didn't believe any of the links but didn't realise Shaw was out until December. Don't really want Cucurella - we haven't exactly had huge amounts of luck with Chelsea rejects. Even Mata was better for them than he was for us. And if we do go that route, I'd take Alonso ahead of him (at least he's not direct from Chelsea!). He's strong and provides the occasional important goal (well, often against us!)
 
Lucas Digne is apparently on the exit at Villa and his move of OGCN collapsed (they hired another player at LB). Still has a few years on the contract so suitable for a loan.
Not linked to United... yet.
 
Rossa said:
We shouldn't need one - Dalot can play there, Alvaro can play there, and Malacia won't be out for long. What was the point in signing Malacia if he isn't good enough? Sell him then. What's the point in keeping Alvaro if he isn't ready? Sell him. Pointless from the club.
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Yeah the logical running of this club has gone through the floor. If Case gets injured what’s the answer. I mean it’s going to happen and he needs rest anyway and this club has no solution for when that happens.
 
The issue is that when Shaw and Malacia will be back, we will have 3 LB and we would potentially have to loan Malacia for 6 months, which is not good in terms of strategy.

Nevertheless, as much as Dalot can fit this role temporarly, do you think that we can play him and AWB until November without rotating ?

Alvaro is too light, so I think that we should sign one on loan.
 
Rossa said:
We shouldn't need one - Dalot can play there, Alvaro can play there, and Malacia won't be out for long. What was the point in signing Malacia if he isn't good enough? Sell him then. What's the point in keeping Alvaro if he isn't ready? Sell him. Pointless from the club.
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Exactly, better spend the time and money to find a good DM than a bang average LB back-up. We panic when there is no need and we let our real problems without a proper solution.
 
Rossa said:
We shouldn't need one - Dalot can play there, Alvaro can play there, and Malacia won't be out for long. What was the point in signing Malacia if he isn't good enough? Sell him then. What's the point in keeping Alvaro if he isn't ready? Sell him. Pointless from the club.
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If Shaw is out for most of this year then I disagree.

Dalot isn’t great at RB never mind LB and will be required to rotate/cover AWB at RB too as we don’t have any option there other than a CB out of position. Malacia doesn’t appear close to fitness and despite a promising start last season, he simply didn’t look good enough when called upon. Luckily we didn’t pay that much for him .

I don’t see what the issue is if it’s a loan.
 
Plastic Evra said:
Lucas Digne is apparently on the exit at Villa and his move of OGCN collapsed (they hired another player at LB). Still has a few years on the contract so suitable for a loan.
Not linked to United... yet.
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Digne didn't played for either Bayern nor Ajax. He didn't even played for any club in Holland. Chance for ETH and team to get a good look on him is quite low unless any previous team he played did play with Ajax or Utrecht then you might got something in there.

Joke aside, as many has pointed out rather than spending money for backup LB, give chance to Alvaro. He might turn out awful, he might as well turn out to be better than Shaw. Spend the fecking non existent money on much needed CM.
 
Surely if just shore up the midfield there will be less exposure to the defence. Keep Dalot/Alv as cover. We will continue to be dominated by average teams until we sort the midfield out.
 
Plastic Evra said:
Lucas Digne is apparently on the exit at Villa and his move of OGCN collapsed (they hired another player at LB). Still has a few years on the contract so suitable for a loan.
Not linked to United... yet.
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Much better than Reguilon or Cucurella imo
 
If recent reports are true, we should probably be looking at a more long term LB as Shaw will probably become more injury prone.
 
Wednesday at Stoke said:
I think Ajax struggled to move Tagliafico for less than 5M last summer.
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Not really, he wanted to go with only a year left on his contract. So Ajax let him go for a small fee. Pretty much Ajax' way of handling players who contributed a lot for a few years.
 
peridigm said:
If recent reports are true, we should probably be looking at a more long term LB as Shaw will probably become more injury prone.
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We should try signing Alphonso Davies next year. His contract runs out in 2025.
 
Rossa said:
We shouldn't need one - Dalot can play there, Alvaro can play there, and Malacia won't be out for long. What was the point in signing Malacia if he isn't good enough? Sell him then. What's the point in keeping Alvaro if he isn't ready? Sell him. Pointless from the club.
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It's not about his quality but the fact he's obviously out for a long time too. Shaw might even be back before he is. Malacia hasn't had a pre-season at all.

It's just bad luck to lose both your first team LBs for an extended period of time. They're only looking to get a stop gap in because the window is still open. I don't think they want to bring in anyone who'd expect to still be here next season, if they can help it.
 
peridigm said:
If recent reports are true, we should probably be looking at a more long term LB as Shaw will probably become more injury prone.
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Should be Cucurella then.

The only name mentioned so far that's the right age and was great at Brighton.
 
justsomebloke said:
I don't get it. Is being without Shaw for a few months so much of a crisis that it's our top priority, over a number of permanent needs? And what are we going to do with three left backs once he's back?
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About 1/3 (Figure plucked out of nowhere) of our attacking output comes from Shaw at LB. Having someone there to “do a job” is probably less than ideal, especially when the team is already struggling for fluency.
 
FrankDrebin said:
United are just scrambling around at this point.
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Unusual for the club to be scrambling in the latter stages of a window...

United's usual incompetence aside, I still think the best option here is to bring in a left-footed CB. Either the new CB or Martinez can fill in at LB until Shaw returns in December and we'll also improve our dreadful CB options in the process. EtH likes one fullback to tuck in to midfield and Martinez would be perfect for that role, having played a season at Ajax in midfield. Not ideal, but better than ending up with three LBs in my view.
 
I don't understand this chase for LB. In a month Malacia is back. In two months, Shaw is back. Surely we can manage with Dalot and some kid this month or two.
 
Andycoleno9 said:
I don't understand this chase for LB. In a month Malacia is back. In two months, Shaw is back. Surely we can manage with Dalot and some kid this month or two.
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Who said Malacia is back next month? Latest report from James Ducker was Malacia is way off returning. Latest reports seem to suggest Shaw is going to be out for 3 months. We would be stupid to not go out and get some cover.
 
Andycoleno9 said:
I don't understand this chase for LB. In a month Malacia is back. In two months, Shaw is back. Surely we can manage with Dalot and some kid this month or two.
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Rumours Shaw is out til November/December. Basically half the season.
 
How can you criticise the club’s general approach over this issue? It’s not every day both of your left backs get seriously injured. Should Murtough and ETH have the ability to see into the future and anticipate such injuries? Of course it’s going to be a scramble to get someone in. Thank feck it was during a transfer window period so we can address it.
 
Castagne would've been a good shout but he's gone Fulham today. Can play both RB and LB.
 
Andycoleno9 said:
I don't understand this chase for LB. In a month Malacia is back. In two months, Shaw is back. Surely we can manage with Dalot and some kid this month or two.
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Sound like Shaw won't be back this year.
Malacia injury, given the silence, I doubt he'll be back next month
 
Devil You Know said:
Agree.

Assuming Maguire leaves, the long term squad would contain:

2 LBs (Shaw and Malacia)
2 RBs (AWB and Dalot)
2 right footed CBs (Varane and Lindelof)
1 left footed CB (Martinez)

For me, the correct move would be to buy a proper left footed CB to fill out the obvious hole squad. Then while the injury crisis at LB continues, Martinez could fill in at LB until Shaw/Malacia come back.

Given that Licha often moves up into midfield anyway, it's not like making him an inverted LB is all that different from what he's doing now.

I'd personally like to avoid another last minute panic loan that adds nothing to the team longer term (Sabitzer, Weghorst, Ighalo, Butland, Dubravka). It would be much better imo if we use this opportunity to strengthen the squad with someone who can be a presence for years to come.
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The only problem with that is Shaw & Malacia will be out for a while. Think if Erik was gonna play Licha at LB he would have on Saturday. There is also the small matter of how we have to manage Varane,so feel we really need a CB who can play either side. However unless Maguire leaves we won't be signing one before Friday.
 
No idea why we loaned out Tierney as he is quality but I think he would have been a good stand in replacement for United. Of course we wouldn't loan him to you, but he fits you like a glove IMO.
 
Save the money for a top or close to top level nr.6.

Either a top ball playing nr.6 or a top ball winner nr.6

Shaw and Malacia are not out for 2 months or more.

Dalot can play there. And give Hernandez a chance.


Right now. I don't think United will win the premier league. After the 3 first games to judge and qualities or the current squad of course. Still a lot United can improve and strength = still many weakness

Conclusion. Sideback options without Shaw and Malacia can be good to getting top 4.

+ First goal against Forrest. Was the line way to high and open. What is the point to conquer opponent castle, when you invite and lost your own castle?

A rock solid defend shall be the fundament. The fundament base of every winning and succesful team. Open that you build with skill and attack.
Protect and defend your own castle. Before you try to conquer, score and win and other castle.
 
Makes way more sense with Shaw being out til after Christmas. Playing on all fronts, we can't play Fernandez week in week out and just drop him into the first team.
 
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