Yes, the point I was making was that Cannavaro and Thuram had never won the Champions League
Sergio Ramos
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An all time great. He is the kind of player I would love in my team.
Nah it was better for sure, less teams made the CL.
How did this go? Any pics?
The UEFA Cup was contended by the 2nd best teams in Europe and was arguably as strong as the European Cup. If you didn't win your league you simply couldn't compete in the European Cup/Champions League unless you got a bye from winning it the previous season.
Under those conditions, Real Madrid would only have 2/4 of their last Champions Leagues but even that is too simplistic which is why I find it strange to compare anything across eras directly.
It really wasn't
Real Madrid manager gone; now the Spanish PM and government are gone, is there no end to the damage caused by Ramos dastardly actions?
Those long diagonal passes are a joy to watch. What a player.
It’s astounding how overrated he is.
This guy is their captain, manager, motivator, regista, and general representative
What a man
What a man
Colossus.
Overrated defender but those long passes are pretty damn sweet.
Pretty good. Nacho, De Gea and Pique were at fault for the goals. That passing from the back though
Slightly weaker at defending than some other top class CBs but world class at everything else. The best CB playing atm bar none.
Bit knee jerk? I want to see someone post this on the De Gea thread.
Woah woah woah, you want someone to? Implying you’d agree with them?!
Slightly is an understatement.
And he is not world class at everything else.
Look at my post history in this thread.
I thought it was? Then there was the cup winners cup which was different all together. UEFA Cup became the Europa.
I want to see a brave poster do it without whitetext just to witness the meltdown.
Sounds good, you’ve got my blessing
He is a great player. People just love to revisit topics when instant pictures suit their agendas.
Always to have moments at these big tournaments where he looks vulnerable for Spain.
Remember Balotelli making a fool out of him in the group stage game at Euro 2012.
Remember Balotelli making a fool out of him in the group stage game at Euro 2012.
Wish me luck.
World class at passing, bringing the ball out for his position, world class at heading, world class at knowing every dirty trick in the book, and above all leading his team to victories.
Slightly is correct. Very good positionally and one one defensively. He's not as good at pure defending as say Vidic or Puyol, but they didn't have his ball playing skills. He's one of those you accept isn't a pure defender and pair him up with a grittier CB like Pepe or Varane.
Yep you dont be the mainstay of a defence for a team thats won 3 champions leagues on the trot if youre useless. Hes probably a cnut but hes a proper leader, he may not be the best defender but his presence and his leadership must give others confidence alongside him.
Look at those tags, too. You're moaner and a City supporter, but your tagline says Arsenal supported and you're on a United forum. Can't really trust you.
Captain of moanchester moaning about another moaner, cant make this up folks.
And MoJoJo... Jo missing a Jo from his name comes out of nowhere to add absolute nothing to a pointless conversation.
What?
In name only. Much like the European cup and the Champions League today, they were different competitions due to the qualification criteria
That's a really shit argument. Lesser players have won more. And Real have not won titles recently because of their defending.
I was trying to post something bullshit like you.
Obviously they’re different competitions but people still class them as the same thing, the same calibre. Either officially or unofficially they’re generally the evolved versions. That’s why Madrid have officially won their 13th European cup.
Do some guys really think he's the undisputed GOAT defender??
Real Madrid have conceded something 22 out of 25 games in the calender 2018, i.e. just 3 clean sheets.
When people call Messi GOAT, I think there's some merit to it (although there's an argument against it IMO), when people say Ramos is the GOAT CB to me that just SCREAMS recency bias.
Real Madrid have conceded something 22 out of 25 games in the calender 2018, i.e. just 3 clean sheets.
When people call Messi GOAT, I think there's some merit to it (although there's an argument against it IMO), when people say Ramos is the GOAT CB to me that just SCREAMS recency bias.
I usually agree with most of what you say but this is complete madness.
He's the best CB in world football. An absolute beast.
His passing is amazing and he is world class player overall while his actual defending is not his main strength. It is a bit weird really, but if you stripped all other attributes he would still be a good defender. I didn't rate his defending for many years but he has become such a complete player it's insane. One of the best
Ramos is a legend on his own and will go down as maybe the best CB ever.