I'm surprised it's just accepted he'd signed a new contract. It wouldn't make sense and if it's not true, it's quite petty by them lot but then they'll have to endure watching De Gea in a United shirt unless they get their act together
Sergio Ramos | Signs new 5 year contract
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Can't we close this thread already. Even if he doesn't sign a new contract, he still ain't coming.
tomorrow "he aint signed a new contract, wants to come here"
day after "has signed new contract, doesn't want to come"
rinse and repeat.
these type saga very very rarely result in the player signed.
Di Maria was probably the only one I remember. But he was mostly linked with PSG
day after "has signed new contract, doesn't want to come"
rinse and repeat.
these type saga very very rarely result in the player signed.
Di Maria was probably the only one I remember. But he was mostly linked with PSG
I wonder if he's excited about pairing with Daley Blind?
whats the issue with keeping it open might i ask
Cause we can't believe anything anybody says about this transfer. There is not a single credible tweet or report about what's really going on with Ramos.
May as well shut down the entire transfer forum then, because there were barely any rumours about any of the signings we have made so far before we completed them. Go and check how long each of the transfer threads of each player we have signed so far were; some of them didn't even reach double figure pages.
Speculation is speculation; there's one open on Reus still which is unbelievably unlikely. Still interesting to discuss nonetheless.
This is a forum to discuss transfer speculation, there not being much credible information on a potential transfer is pretty much a given.
Why would it be closed?
ffs so are we supposed to get in drool mode or sad mode based on that 'favourite' of Ramos? I think he might have just favourited looking at dreamy Juan 
Just said it on the twitter thread but the one thing we do know about this saga is that nothing has been resolved either way yet. If him and Perez had kissed and made up, there is no way Madrid wouldn't rushing to get everything signed and making announcements to get all this bad press behind them.
He likes giving his team mates a kiss now and then so you might not be far offffs so are we supposed to get in drool mode or sad mode based on that 'favourite' of Ramos? I think he might have just favourited looking at dreamy Juan
He still follows that random United fan that mentioned the Ramos to United deal too.
Anyone else think hes a WUM? He surely favorited the tweet because of DDG being left out, he wont be joining. If was to join he would have been outspoken regarding leaving Madrid, he had the opportunity to do it and put the blame at Perez door and the fans would understand.
Would have been a very weird thing to do to favourite it as it means DDG will join him at Madrid. Going from apparently wanting to join United to "yeah, haha look at them losing their gk LOLs. happy days" is a bit weird.
Wait, is he wumming us now about De Gea joining Madrid?
What a dick.
What a dick.
No, we don't close transfer threads until either it's confirmed he's actually signed a new contract or joined a new club
Until then, if you can't hack the heat, get out of the kitchen.
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If we only had threads that involved the truth we would be down to around 5 topics every window and 4 of them would be about reserve players going to Barnsley
This is the official muppet thread of 2015 by popular acclaim. It can't close till transfer deadline.
I thought he had a girlfriend?
Yeah baffling that every year if a transfer thread runs more than a couple of pages some just can't handle it and want them closed.
Never understand why they don't just stop reading it
This is stupid. If Madrid were willing to sell then he would have come here...we weren't being used. Also no idea what you mean by 'once again' as there was a thread the other day showing that this new contract thing is complete nonsenseOnce again it looks like we've been used by a player to leverage himself a new contract.
I think that thread was made after I made this post tbf. It was a good read and made some excellent points.
I dont think any of us know whether this is him having angled for a new contract or the club preventing him going. My point is that if he really wanted to go that bad, i'm sure he would have submitted a transfer request. I doubt Real would have kept (/will keep) him if he really wants to go that bad. In the same way I feel that we will probably end up selling DDG in the end.
But De Gea hasn't handed in a transfer request? Or Di Maria? It's very rare for players to do that as I think they can lose millions in loyalty bonuses
I just can't see it being purely about his Real Madrid contract...I mean what if Madrid do say yes you can go and decide to go for a promising Spanish talent like Laporte (United are offering serious money and not messing around it seems), does he say sorry Florentino I'm staying this was just for my contract? I see it as him pushing for a move but it being refused by his club which he will accept if he gets more money for staying. There's no need to make it seem like United are some stupid club being used by players to get big contracts
I don't think it's just an opinion that I share alone though, but it is my opinion and I respect yours.
You make some very good points so fair play to you.
I love the club as much as the next supported and I wouldn't put it past an agent to use a big club with financial clout like ours to scare their player's existing club into offering a new deal. I think it's naive to think this couldn't happen.
I could also be very wrong though and maybe i am the one being naive.
But its only my opinion.
You make some very good points.
Yeah of course agents will do all kind of dirty tricks to get better contracts...but I just don't think United are some sort of club that continually falls for that. Woodward must have some business savvy to get to the position he has and I just don't think he would be constantly getting fooled by agents to go for players. My impression is that there must be some sort of gentleman's agreement with top level players before you submit a transfer bid. Like if the bid gets accepted you know the player will play ball and sign. That's all an assumption on my part though so it could be absolute bollocks.
Yeah, it does make sense if that is the case. I suppose it's only ever a gentleman's agreement though, and not a contract so only ever carries so much weight.
Either way...if Ramos doesn't end up here I wouldn't say it was because he didn't want to come but more about how Florentino has to keep Ramos after the Casillas mess. Woody wasn't wrong for going after him
No.. it would have been an excellent signing. A statement of intent as well.
Agreed. Even if we did get Ramos...our attack is so depressing. Hope and pray that Rooney has a good season I guess
Was watching the Audi Cup and saw Ramos take out Ericksen late from behind which made me think of this. If we'd have somehow gotten Ramos, would LVG have paired him up with either Rojo or Blind instead of Smalling due to his insistence on having a left-footed center half in the side? And if that's the case, then why aren't we looking at left-footed center halves to begin with as surely Smalling is our best central defender?
If he has said that he wants to go for the sole reason to just get more money from RM he has probably weighted in the possibility that his stated desire actually can happen. His conclusion would probably have been "if I can't get that money from RM and they sell me to Manchester United I'm fine with it."
It's difficult to know what is true and not in this story but if he did use us to get a better contract his mindset is probably that if he can't get the money he thinks he deserves from RM he wants to go. If he gets it he wants to stay.
Anyway, it's not all or nothing here. Ramos can be happy at RM and he can be happy at Manchester United.
My conclusion is that Ramos will not leave Real Madrid and I am not angry at him for using us to try and seal a better contract.
The best thing we could do is to stop competing for players that we can't have or maybe even shouldn't want to have. We should stop going for players who plays for clubs they perceive is bigger than us but which they want to leave for other circumstances. Personally I haven't seen any quote from Ramos himself saying anything about this. What Calderon says I'd take with a big pinch of salt after the Ronaldo saga in 2008. Either way, Ramos would not be interested in Man Utd if everything was good at RM so we shouldn't go for him.
Same with Di Maria. He would never have moved to us or PSG if he would have been happy at RM. Pedro is another matter because he is not unhappy at Barcelona it seems. He's just not good enough, which implies that we are not as big a club as they are. Going for players from the central and northern parts of the European continent, including France, is probably the best thing we could do in the long term. And let players from Iberia and South America, who thinks RM and Barca are the biggest clubs in the world, be. It will just be problems later on. Ronaldo, De Gea etc. Nani would probably had been trouble if he had been good enough.
I disagree. Some players look for a new challenge after years at the same club in the same league even if that is Real/Barca who right now are considered the pinacle. For most, playing for United in the premier league is an extremely attractive prospect.
Yes the new challenge is a fair point but if that is the case you are not aversively unhappy at your present club, as I am under the impression was the case with di Maria and is the case with Ramos.
This is such an odd one to call. Nothing seems to have been cleared up. Not publicly at least. I wonder if he still wants out etc. Cant call this tbh.
All we know for sure is that he definitely hasn't agreed to stay yet. The second he did, Perez would be out with a marching band and a full stadium to parade him in front of the cameras.
very true. I guess it rumbles on then. I would still be more than happy to have him in the side tbh. Especially if we are going to go with Blind for the start of this campaign lol
The fact all the talk of him signing a contract last week clearly shows the press are clueless. I think our chances go up every day that goes by now where we don't hear any news of this contract. We are clearly holding out for him or we would have moved onto another centre back by now.
I'm still thinking he's more likely to stay but we arent ruling it out and think there is still a good chance if we have waited this long. I don't blame LVG if you can get a Ramos in it's worth waiting.
I'm still thinking he's more likely to stay but we arent ruling it out and think there is still a good chance if we have waited this long. I don't blame LVG if you can get a Ramos in it's worth waiting.
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