Sergej Milinkovic Savic

People actually think the club will pay 100m+ for this guy? To you guys who think we will sign him, I hate to break it to you, but it will never happen and as someone who has watched him play quite a lot I can say he is good yes, but over a 100m would suggest he is something extraordinary which quite frankly he is not, also compared to the premier league, serie a is absolute shite, no offense to the serie a fans on here.

If we somehow actually end up paying over 100m for him it will be an absolute joke imo, hes worth 70m at absolute max. Once again I am in no way suggesting he is average or bad but we can't spend half our budget on one player just because Lazio is demanding an absolute crazy fee for him, they can feck off with that nonsense, and I can almost guarantee that if they insist on that price then no one will buy him.
 
BlueHaze said:
People actually think the club will pay 100m+ for this guy? To you guys who think we will sign him, I hate to break it to you, but it will never happen and as someone who has watched him play quite a lot I can say he is good yes, but over a 100m would suggest he is something extraordinary which quite frankly he is not, also compared to the premier league, serie a is absolute shite, no offense to the serie a fans on here.

If we somehow actually end up paying over 100m for him it will be an absolute joke imo, hes worth 70m at absolute max. Once again I am in no way suggesting he is average or bad but we can't spend half our budget on one player just because Lazio is demanding an absolute crazy fee for him, they can feck off with that nonsense, and I can almost guarantee that if they insist on that price then no one will buy him.
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100m is inflated based on hype imo. 70m Euros would seem more like a high end price.
 
Shaun Oldman said:
Dzeko wasn't brilliant in the EPL, but he was a very competent target man, not awfully dissimiller to Giroud in terms of output etc.

Bit harsh there.

A player can come from anywhere (Ronaldo started at SL, Marco Van Basten at Utrecht , Kevin Keegan at Scunthorpe etc etc), if you've scouted properly, then you're golden. Don't base every argument on where someone is from(we all mock SPL but look at VVD, Larsson ,Wanyama etc etc etc), besides Serie A is still 4/5 strongest in Europe
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Ronaldo, Van Basten, Keegan ? Really mate ? Those 3, you mentioned are already have high ceiling among the scouts. 3 of the best footballers ever.

We are talking about mega transfer of Savic here. 100 Million should be used to buy a decisive player. Proven one. Not gambling for a player from 5th place of Serie A. If we want a player from Serie A, pick from Juve, Roma, or Napoli.

In the era where youtube makes us fans smarter than years of experiences scouts, any player can be a God.

And please, Wanyama, VVD, is squad player, not more. I don't have any objection for buying SMS, but we should buy smart. Look at Ajax and Monaco, they buy cheap but can sell high.

Rather than spend 100 Million for unproven player, why dont we hijack The best scouts available ? More useful.
 
This lad is good. Very is easy on the eye. I do question his fitness. I noticed today and against his last game for Lazio against Inter, he seems to tire out around the 70th minute.

Also, I’m struggling to think where he’d fit in for us? I’d rather go for Thiago but he might be ready to go “home”.
 
giorno said:
Napoli won't sell Zielinski. As for Pogba, depends. If i want a box-to-box midfielder, i'm taking Pogba. If i want an attacking midfielder, i'm taking Milinkovic. Pogba is a better passer in midfield, Milinkovic is better passer in the final third. Faster of mind and more effective. He sees the last pass better than Pogba
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Agreed and what we need/needed at the start of the window wasn't exactly an attacking midfielder, but a box to box midfielder. Sergej is very good behind the striker with aerial balls coming in to him and controlling it and bringing others around him into play. He's a technically better version of Fellaini as a CAM with superior play making abilities and similar aerial attributes. But, we have plenty of players to play in that position. Naturally, having a player like Sergej will improve our squad (as he's a step above Fellaini), but not worth the 100m it'll take to buy him. I'd rather use that money to buy a LB and a CB or RW.
Edit: Zielinski has a 65m euro release clause.
 
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I watched the entire Serbia v Costa Rica game. Savic has a good touch but I don’t think he will be a big success in the EPL. Seems to be a bit slow with no acceleration. Very similar to Fellaini in terms of movement.
 
Signing him would give us another dimension and many teams are stacked with quality players that don't always have to play together....
 
I don't think we stand a chance of getting him even if Jose wanted him. He wants to go to Real Madrid and as he's already playing in Italy Juve would be a logical move.
 
Definitely not work more than £60m, after watching a few Lazio games and today's game I think he is not what we need.
 
giorno said:
he wasn't. That's his position
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Not when i've seen him he hasn't. He's a box2box who does his best work on the left-hand side of a midfield two or three. It's no coincidence that we were linked strongest to SWS when it looked as though Pogba was gonna strop his way out of Old Trafford again towards the end of last season, as he(Pogba)takes up/favours the same areas.
 
Adisa said:
Spend 100m on a player that does not solve any problem for us.
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Pretty much agree from the handful of games I have seen of him. Technically very talented but bar is height he doesnt fit. Floating around almost as a number 10 he is a more attacking Pogba, but he seems to float about even more than Pogba and do even less defensively. We must have 4 or 5 players that could play the position he does....which doesnt even exist in our formation, whole reason we have round pegs in square holes and should be offloading half the ones we already have, not buying another.

Also dont think he is good enough for Madrid either. Juventus is the perfect move for him in my opinion
 
The italian press linking him heavily to Madrid, but I think that's just his agent putting out there to pump up the price. It's always us and Madrid that get used by agents like that.

Italian teams using the transfer market to make up for their economical disadvantage vs the Premiership. Sell stupendously high.
 
Rozay said:
He’d be the perfect replacement for Fellaini.
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yeah basically fellaini with skill but 100m euros mate, which would made him also somewhat undroppable and here we go we play with three immobile midfielders, would be all about strength and as usual we would struggle against aggressive technical teams. If there was a swap like Mkhi x Sanchez on, I'd defo take it but I think he would make us being in more problems than being useful..
 
RoyH1 said:
The italian press linking him heavily to Madrid, but I think that's just his agent putting out there to pump up the price. It's always us and Madrid that get used by agents like that.

Italian teams using the transfer market to make up for their economical disadvantage vs the Premiership. Sell stupendously high.
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His father said that Juve would be the perfect move for him and later-when he is 25- and more matured "footballistically" go to Spain.
 
Do not want, cannot see a balanced midfield with both him and Pogba there.

I think that what we should look instead if a backup for Matic, his backup, Herrera, Fred, Pogba and then one (or both) of Pereira and McTomnay should be enough when it comes to midfield.
 
Revan said:
Do not want, cannot see a balanced midfield with both him and Pogba there.

I think that what we should look instead if a backup for Matic, his backup, Herrera, Fred, Pogba and then one (or both) of Pereira and McTomnay should be enough when it comes to midfield.
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Really? I can see him and Pogba linking up brilliantly in midfield, runs into the box isn't Pogba's speciality however Savic seems very good at it so I can imagine Pogba lofting brilliant balls for Savic to get on the end of and coupled with Lukaku in there as well we'll actually have numbers in the oppositions box for once!
 
charlenefan said:
Really? I can see him and Pogba linking up brilliantly in midfield, runs into the box isn't Pogba's speciality however Savic seems very good at it so I can imagine Pogba lofting brilliant balls for Savic to get on the end of and coupled with Lukaku in there as well we'll actually have numbers in the oppositions box for once!
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Too attacking for Mourinho, IMO. I think that the perfect balance for Mourinho will be Matic, Pogba and one box-to-box who is more defensive minded.
 
Revan said:
Too attacking for Mourinho, IMO. I think that the perfect balance for Mourinho will be Matic, Pogba and one box-to-box who is more defensive minded.
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If that was the case we would have played with that combination much more last year. Instead we started with, and used plentifully, a 4-2-3-1 with Pogba in the midfield two and Herrera on the bench. Mourinho clearly likes playing with a no.10 and clearly thinks Pogba can operate in the deeper role. Milinkovic-Savic must be very appealing to him.
 
Revan said:
Too attacking for Mourinho, IMO. I think that the perfect balance for Mourinho will be Matic, Pogba and one box-to-box who is more defensive minded.
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Hhmm maybe, it wouldn't exactly fix the issue of Matic being left exposed as it would still require more defensive discipline from Pogba than he appears capable of. Attack wise though it could be a dream :drool:
 
My thoughts on SMS, in two different posts.
Rozay said:
He’d be the perfect replacement for Fellaini.
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Okay, but is he any good? And at what price?
BlueHaze said:
If we somehow actually end up paying over 100m for him it will be an absolute joke imo, hes worth 70m at absolute max. Once again I am in no way suggesting he is average or bad but we can't spend half our budget on one player just because Lazio is demanding an absolute crazy fee for him, they can feck off with that nonsense, and I can almost guarantee that if they insist on that price then no one will buy him.
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So, who's for a 100m replacement for Fellaini? No, I'd rather us get Mandzukic, or even Arnie. I don't see this SMS transfer happening. He will get Juventus or a new contract.
 
This is what will happen.

He'll go to Juventus for 80 million in august.

Will be sold to ¤insert name of PL team with money to burn or PSG¤ 12 months later for 150 million.
 
Class of 63 said:
Not when i've seen him he hasn't. He's a box2box who does his best work on the left-hand side of a midfield two or three. It's no coincidence that we were linked strongest to SWS when it looked as though Pogba was gonna strop his way out of Old Trafford again towards the end of last season, as he(Pogba)takes up/favours the same areas.
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I've seen him all season long at Lazio, that's where he played. As an attacking midfielder/support shadow striker
 
Come on, we can’t be spending 100m+ on a ‘Fellaini’ Replacement. For that price it should be someone who will upgrade the first team and affect games

I don’t see it with this chap, at least not yet
 
golden_blunder said:
Come on, we can’t be spending 100m+ on a ‘Fellaini’ Replacement. For that price it should be someone who will upgrade the first team and affect games

I don’t see it with this chap, at least not yet
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We can't be going in a season with 4 regular midfielders and a tall academy graduate when we would be going into the season with a 3 man midfield, where one of them in Herrera is a average passer of the ball and, the whole season hugely dependent on Pogba and Matic to play through out the campaign without any injuries loss of form or tiredness specially when the blue half will add another top notch midfielder cum DLP and a winger of high technical quality when we just finished 19 points behind them. The price is atrocious i agree, but the onus is on us to catch them next season and fight in higher stages in Ucl which we failed to do last season where even Matic struggled to control the game with his lack of mobility coming from tiredness, and addition of Fred alone does not seem to be enough to me.

We need more creativity, depth in the midfield department and ability to use the ball better, build up better and also increase our productivity in front of goal as we are not fluid enough to open up packed defenses which is not going to change like with a flick of a switch with a new assistant manager cum coach under Mourinho. When title Rivals are improving as well and expected to keep the same level from last season more or less our use of the ball needs to change drastically to get to new challenge set by the rivals. The target we want to achieve is surely relative to our title rivals credentials too, thus we need to push even Harder to improve.

Why he is being mentioned as a Fellani replacement on the cafe is surprising to me as he is a massive upgrade as midfielder to Fellani. Currently he has been shoehorned in the Serbia side at no 10 by the board as the manager was not including him in the world cup squad, but his best position does not seem to be a no 10 , he is capable of Much more B2B role as well,although his final balls and playmaking seems good also in the final third. Of course he can do the Fellani job of being a target man up from and add the presence Mourinho likes against certain teams and that's a plus when Fellani will be gone as well so that out plan B keeps working when the manager needs it.
 
Patrick08 said:
We can't be going in a season with 4 regular midfielders and a tall academy graduate when we would be going into the season with a 3 man midfield, where one of them in Herrera is a average passer of the ball and, the whole season hugely dependent on Pogba and Matic to play through out the campaign without any injuries loss of form or tiredness specially when the blue half will add another top notch midfielder cum DLP and a winger of high technical quality when we just finished 19 points behind them. The price is atrocious i agree, but the onus is on us to catch them next season and fight in higher stages in Ucl which we failed to do last season where even Matic struggled to control the game with his lack of mobility coming from tiredness, and addition of Fred alone does not seem to be enough to me.

We need more creativity, depth in the midfield department and ability to use the ball better, build up better and also increase our productivity in front of goal as we are not fluid enough to open up packed defenses which is not going to change like with a flick of a switch with a new assistant manager cum coach under Mourinho. When title Rivals are improving as well and expected to keep the same level from last season more or less our use of the ball needs to change drastically to get to new challenge set by the rivals. The target we want to achieve is surely relative to our title rivals credentials too, thus we need to push even Harder to improve.

Why he is being mentioned as a Fellani replacement on the cafe is surprising to me as he is a massive upgrade as midfielder to Fellani. Currently he has been shoehorned in the Serbia side at no 10 by the board as the manager was not including him in the world cup squad, but his best position does not seem to be a no 10 , he is capable of Much more B2B role as well,although his final balls and playmaking seems good also in the final third. Of course he can do the Fellani job of being a target man up from and add the presence Mourinho likes against certain teams and that's a plus when Fellani will be gone as well so that out plan B keeps working when the manager needs it.
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Whilst true spending £100m on Savic is not the answer, if he would cost about half that then maybe. He is far from a proven player even less proven than Pogba when we signed him.

We should be looking for another CM and use the remaining funds to focus on fullback and RW

If we're going to play a 3 man midfield we should also bring back Pereira to the squad
 
Patrick08 said:
We can't be going in a season with 4 regular midfielders and a tall academy graduate when we would be going into the season with a 3 man midfield, where one of them in Herrera is a average passer of the ball and, the whole season hugely dependent on Pogba and Matic to play through out the campaign without any injuries loss of form or tiredness specially when the blue half will add another top notch midfielder cum DLP and a winger of high technical quality when we just finished 19 points behind them. The price is atrocious i agree, but the onus is on us to catch them next season and fight in higher stages in Ucl which we failed to do last season where even Matic struggled to control the game with his lack of mobility coming from tiredness, and addition of Fred alone does not seem to be enough to me.

We need more creativity, depth in the midfield department and ability to use the ball better, build up better and also increase our productivity in front of goal as we are not fluid enough to open up packed defenses which is not going to change like with a flick of a switch with a new assistant manager cum coach under Mourinho. When title Rivals are improving as well and expected to keep the same level from last season more or less our use of the ball needs to change drastically to get to new challenge set by the rivals.

Why he is being mentioned as a Fellani replacement on the cafe is surprising to me as he is a massive upgrade as midfielder to Fellani. Currently he has been shoehorned in the Serbia side at no 10 by the board as the manager was not including him in the world cup squad, but his best position does not seem to be a no 10 , he is capable of Much more B2B role as well,although his final balls and playmaking seems good also in the final third. Of course he can do the Fellani job of being a target man up from and add the presence Mourinho likes against certain teams and that's a plus when Fellani will be gone as well so that out plan B keeps working when the manager needs it.
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I agree that I’d like to see an additional midfielder brought in after the addition of Fred. I just don’t see it with this guy and definitely not anywhere near that price. I also don’t see a team geling with him and Pogba under Mourinho.
I’d like us to think outside the box and bring in a kid with potential such as the young Russian. Task the scouts to come up with a young un. Then let’s move on to LB, RW and a CB.
 
sherrinford said:
If that was the case we would have played with that combination much more last year. Instead we started with, and used plentifully, a 4-2-3-1 with Pogba in the midfield two and Herrera on the bench. Mourinho clearly likes playing with a no.10 and clearly thinks Pogba can operate in the deeper role. Milinkovic-Savic must be very appealing to him.
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By the end of the season though Mourinho had moved to mostly playing a 433, presumably because he'd changed his mind on turning Pogba into a deeper player. The purchase of Fred indicates we'll likely continue like that as well, as he seems to be more suited to that position next to Matic and Pogba than any of our previous options.
 
golden_blunder said:
Come on, we can’t be spending 100m+ on a ‘Fellaini’ Replacement. For that price it should be someone who will upgrade the first team and affect games

I don’t see it with this chap, at least not yet
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Neither do I. Seems the type who we'd need to actively bring into the game. We have plenty of those and need the type who will control and dictate it
 
Fred / Matic / Pogba will be first choice anyway.

SMS would be a good addition but not for the prices quoted. We'd be better off giving Pereira/Mctominay a squad role for the year, use the money elsewhere like RW and fullback.
 
crossy1686 said:
Great player but he's absolutely insane. He's been up to all kinds of daft stuff in his personal life, including but not limited to, burning out a Ferrari and turning up to training drunk.
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Indeed. The lunatic even ran himself over with his own car. I do like him though (as a player).
 
Replacement for Fellaini ? He doesn't really defend though from what I have seen/read. He seems more of a Pogba alternative, should the former be sold or benched. I think we need first team improvements, not bench strength right now. Besides, you never know how he's going to do this season. Belotti was rumoured to be a 80 m player wasn't he the previous season ? This year, not a single link with him for any of the top clubs.
 
Norris said:
Replacement for Fellaini ? He doesn't really defend though from what I have seen/read. He seems more of a Pogba alternative, should the former be sold or benched. I think we need first team improvements, not bench strength right now. Besides, you never know how he's going to do this season. Belotti was rumoured to be a 80 m player wasn't he the previous season ? This year, not a single link with him for any of the top clubs.
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He seems more of a #10 contender than a Pogba replacement.
 
Raoul said:
He seems more of a #10 contender than a Pogba replacement.
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Exactly. This confronting between Pogba and SMS needs to stop as it's pointless.

14 goals from Sergej last season from central position. He would be an asset for any big club.
 
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