Sergej Milinkovic Savic

Not what we need at all IMO and certainly not for the prices being touted, we need more of a playmaker or at worst a dynamic box to box to help Matic in the 4-3-3, this guy would be an awful fit balance-wise with Pogba and Matic.
 
How about both? Ozil #10/RW, Dybala RW/SS, and SMS as CM.


4231
—————Lukaku
Martial—-—Ozil—-—Dybala
———-Pogba
———————Matic
New LB—Bailly—CB—Valencia


433
Martial——Lukaku——Dybala
———Pogba——SMS
———-——Matic
New LB—Bailly—CB—Valencia


...Ozil/Dybala could be interchangeable at RW or #10/SS, so can SMS/Ozil when either plays CM or #10 whenever need be.


I also wanted to post the same, it is the dream setup I also want to see.

We need two new players up front, who would bring more goals and creativity. Both top class. Since you can get one of them for free it is no brainer that we should spend big for the other.

We also need one top class midfielder, who should be good at everything. SMS is a great fit, since he can also replace Matic and perform in a 2-man midfield. Of course a controlling midfielder would be also nice instead, maybe more needed but they are rare these days. How can you get De Bryune/Verratti/Pjanic/Modric etc. Whatsoever, Mourinho plays direct, we are not a controlling-possession team, so a maybe his team does not even need one, Pogba-Matic-SMS would be superb under him.

As for the guy that asked about Dybala's position out right, we can also play a closed diamond with this setup, it will be really flexible, since Paul and SMS can easily drift to the sides, as well as Ozil and Dybala.

————Dybala—Lukaku
—-——-—-----Ozil------------
———-Pogba--------SMS
———————Matic

My only disagreement is that I would prefer to sign a top RB than a left back, assuming Shaw will establish his place in the next months. I love Valencia, but we need someone who can bring quality in the final third with crosses and overlapping. I don't know who, I guess Meunier.

It will cost a lot of money, but it is doable. We will raise like 60-70 from departures, we will have to replace Miki, to whom we counted a lot so we have to spend big this time if we want to close the gap with City. The other way is to buy be patient with our talents, buy e.g. Mooura/Mahrez/Kovacic/Perisic etc, who are of course not bad players, the opposite, but you will take risks again, same ones with Miki.

You know that world class talents like Dybala, SMS, established ones like Ozil, will come here and perform. As Lukaku is scoring his goals, as Pogba is our best player, as Matic had an instant impact. You know what you buy, and I hope we will not place more bets in our squad. Let's go for a summer such as this one. The best part will be the age of the squad, many many years of top quality players. Even if Mourinho doesn't provide, and I believe he will provide, but lets say, the next manager will have a top squad.
 
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What consistency issues though?!?!?

Probably only David Silva matches him for consistency with his touch/passing in the league. He consistently creates more chances than anyone in the league. He's never once in his career looked like he's forgotten how to play football ala Mkhi in recent weeks and is far more incisive with his play than Mata. No player player is great all the time. Not Dybala, not Ronaldo, not even Messi. Ozil is actually a lot better than most in terms of consistency - Certainly better than Martial or Rashford.

The media gave him a hard time for a lot of Arsenal's struggles because of his languid style. Meanwhile Ramsey going from CM to CF in every attack and leaving the team exposed time and again. They've reinforced with an extra CB or CM depending on the formation and suddenly he's back to his best. There's definitely things he needs in place to thrive but that shouldn't be mistaken for inconsistency. His quality is incredible and in terms of pure skill he's league's ahead of anything in our team.

He's simply not to come here to play a squad role or accept any money that would be indicative of that. He will demand and get a huge contract and a starring role somewhere else if he can't get it here. Mourinho isn't actually always like that - He's stubbornly stuck with Lukaku when his confidence was shot for example and has played favourites in the past with the likes of Ivanovic.

In all honesty Ivanovic was a great right back for Chelsea, He won a Champions league, 3 Premier League titles, 3 FA cups and a Europa League. A criminally underrated player and one of the best right backs we've seen in the PL, just because he didn't look as sexy going forward as a Dani Alves for example people always seemed to look down on him but the reality is you won't find many right backs with a better goal scoring record.
 
In all honesty Ivanovic was a great right back for Chelsea, He won a Champions league, 3 Premier League titles, 3 FA cups and a Europa League. A criminally underrated player and one of the best right backs we've seen in the PL, just because he didn't look as sexy going forward as a Dani Alves for example people always seemed to look down on him but the reality is you won't find many right backs with a better goal scoring record.

I know. I mean towards the latter stages of his career when he was becoming a liability. He had Luis/Azpi but persisted with Ivanovic through serious struggles.
 
I know. I mean towards the latter stages of his career when he was becoming a liability. He had Luis/Azpi but persisted with Ivanovic through serious struggles.

It was really that last season and even then the whole Chelsea squad was seriously under performing i don't think Ivanovic was being favoured, He was a senior player that had a lot of credits in the bank and was named in the PFA Premier League team of the year only the season before, surely that has to mean something and that's the reason i believe Jose played him.

I don't think Jose plays favourites, I agree he may be stubborn and sticks with certain players but that's because he believes in the tactic's he trying to implement. Playing favourites never works for any manager and i don't think Jose has achieved all the success that he has by playing favourites.
 
I can see this one being done for about £70 million in the summer. He looks a proper Mourinho midfielder.
I honestly hope we don't pay that for him. He's not exactly in the top class and is a bit underwhelming.
 
I can see this one being done for about £70 million in the summer. He looks a proper Mourinho midfielder.
Unless the pound becomes stronger than pre-brexit, nooope. Sergej will cost roughly like Pogba
 
I honestly hope we don't pay that for him. He's not exactly in the top class and is a bit underwhelming.
This. It would be a waste with Pogba already in the team. We need a playmaker like Silva or Modrić, not a Pogba-lite.
 
You do know that 70m will make him the third most expensive midfielder ever?
and i'm telling you lazio have been leaking they want €100m for him. And Lotito doesn't negotiate
 
I thought that was the Napoli guy giorno!
No, DeLa is a different matter. He uses buyout clauses to set prices on his players anyways. Lotito is the guy who managed to sell keita balde to monaco for €30m with 1 year left on his deal while the player tried everything he could(including a medical certificate saying he was under too much stress to train) to force a move to juventus. Lotito will sell at his conditions, or not at all.
 
No, DeLa is a different matter. He uses buyout clauses to set prices on his players anyways. Lotito is the guy who managed to sell keita balde to monaco for €30m with 1 year left on his deal while the player tried everything he could(including a medical certificate saying he was under too much stress to train) to force a move to juventus. Lotito will sell at his conditions, or not at all.
Sounds a charm to negotiate with :lol: Thanks for the info though. Always good to read these details from leagues I don’t follow much anymore.
 
The price quoted allegedly is £95 million, there's no way we would fork out a sum like that. He doesn't have the right profile.
 
2 more goals for him , Comparisons to Pogba when he was in italy.

That is his second goal , he is so good going forward and very good in defense. I think we should go for him, for me he looks like a player you buy no matter who you have in your team, Like fergie used to.
 
Yes especialy if Sanchez/Mkhi really is a swap deal with no payment you surely just go for Milinkovic-Savic and Alex Sandro in the summer to complete the team. After that it's just maybe a new right back the following year and cover for Matic and Pogba aka squad players.
 
Will take a solid €100m to get him from whoever tries
 
I'd take him, brilliant player strong, can defend if needed and as you can see good going forward too, sign him up.
 
Not gonna bump his brother`s thread, sooo anyone seen this? :lol:



Didnt know we had Roberto Carlos among GKs in our books :)
 
Hopefully Real or PSG buy him so they can sell us Kroos or Verratti who are the type of CM's we actually need, that can control the tempo of our game.
 
Mourinho's first Chelsea team didn't have a conductor type in midfield. It's not necessary as long as there are creative players on the pitch who can make things happen, goalscorers who can find the net, and defenders who can defend. Pogba, Matic or Savic could all do that to an extent that would be sufficient between them.
 
Hopefully Real or PSG buy him so they can sell us Kroos or Verratti who are the type of CM's we actually need, that can control the tempo of our game.
You know what, i'd probably swap Kroos for him right now
 
Mourinho's first Chelsea team didn't have a conductor type in midfield. It's not necessary as long as there are creative players on the pitch who can make things happen, goalscorers who can find the net, and defenders who can defend. Pogba, Matic or Savic could all do that to an extent that would be sufficient between them.

That team was a decade or more ago, we saw today with Spurs how they missed Eriksen's control over their play, nearly every top side has one of them, Kroos and Modric at Real, Silva and De Bruyne at City, Thiago at Bayern, Verratti at PSG, Iniesta at Barcelona, Pjanic at Juve, Jorginho at Napoli, Weigl at Dortmund. However even if we tried without one we lack a real creator in the front 3 and Savic is still a poor fit with Pogba and Matic, you'd want a very mobile and dynamic ground coverer in their with them at the very least, like prime Vidal or what Essien was in that old Chelsea team.

You know what, i'd probably swap Kroos for him right now

Maybe we can buy him and swap you, that's Ed's new thing. :D
 
That team was a decade or more ago, we saw today with Spurs how they missed Eriksen's control over their play, nearly every top side has one of them, Kroos and Modric at Real, Silva and De Bruyne at City, Thiago at Bayern, Verratti at PSG, Iniesta at Barcelona, Pjanic at Juve, Jorginho at Napoli, Weigl at Dortmund. However even if we tried without one we lack a real creator in the front 3 and Savic is still a poor fit with Pogba and Matic, you'd want a very mobile and dynamic ground coverer in their with them at the very least, like prime Vidal or what Essien was in that old Chelsea team.



Maybe we can buy him and swap you, that's Ed's new thing. :D
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